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Twice over the limit teenage girl gets 5 years for killing cyclist

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By:
JC1326
When: 20 Dec 14 22:07
A life for a life, imo. The defendant in this case should be put to death, and the victims wife should be the one dropping the switch. See the drop in the amount of drunk driving cases if the punishment became that severe
By:
boxingthefox
When: 20 Dec 14 22:12
Not the sort of response I would expect from someone called JC. But it's your opinion, just one question, would you seriously want to be the one to put her to death. Serious question, I would not want that burden or anyone else to have it on my behalf.
By:
JC1326
When: 20 Dec 14 22:20
It's a good question. Probably not, but then we have plenty of people in this world who have the mental capacity to deal with doing such a thing. Or maybe it's a question for the victims wife? I know if some drunken idiot killed anyone I loved I'd very likely kill them myself, and think about the repercussions afterwards
By:
Clungehungry
When: 20 Dec 14 22:25
And if it was your daughter? If we're executing people for dangerous driving you can forget about them stopping at the scene.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 20 Dec 14 22:25
Can't disagree with that if it is one of your own, then no punishment is enough.
By:
Just Checking
When: 20 Dec 14 22:26
Hey stop calling JC JC, I'm JC. And so's my wife!
By:
boxingthefox
When: 20 Dec 14 22:30
Sorry JC, that's JC since 2006, Not prender JC since 2012. PlainLaugh I will add the 1326 when talking to Karaoke JC. Shocked
By:
Just Checking
When: 20 Dec 14 22:30
Seriously though,
I wouldn't execute anyone for drink driving no but stiff sentences yes.

What worries me about incredible low tolerance is say this:
Everyone will agree someone who gets wasted and drives is a d*ck. But with very low limits as the campaigners want, say you go out, have 5 pints, get up after 8 hours sleep and feel fine, get breathlysed and youre like slightly over. There was no intent, you didn't even feel intoxicated, but you get a DUI conviction marking you like the sh*t driving with a bottle of vodka in the glove compartment.
There needs to be common sense applied. Maybe it should be graded. DUI 1-10 or something.
By:
Just Checking
When: 20 Dec 14 22:31
Thank you fox. Blessed are the cheesemakers.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 20 Dec 14 22:35
CryLaugh
By:
JC1326
When: 20 Dec 14 22:39

Dec 20, 2014 -- 10:30PM, Just Checking wrote:


Seriously though, I wouldn't execute anyone for drink driving no but stiff sentences yes.What worries me about incredible low tolerance is say this:Everyone will agree someone who gets wasted and drives is a d*ck. But with very low limits as the campaigners want, say you go out, have 5 pints, get up after 8 hours sleep and feel fine, get breathlysed and youre like slightly over. There was no intent, you didn't even feel intoxicated, but you get a DUI conviction marking you like the sh*t driving with a bottle of vodka in the glove compartment. There needs to be common sense applied. Maybe it should be graded. DUI 1-10 or something.


Or you don't have five pints eight hours before you drive?

By:
JC1326
When: 20 Dec 14 22:40

Dec 20, 2014 -- 10:25PM, Clungehungry wrote:


And if it was your daughter? If we're executing people for dangerous driving you can forget about them stopping at the scene.


Well, if it was my daughter then... sorry, I can't take a question seriously from a guy called ''Clungehungry.''

By:
Clungehungry
When: 20 Dec 14 22:59
No problem
By:
boxingthefox
When: 20 Dec 14 23:03
Sparky, this is an emotional subject, in the cold light of day any person charged (Jury members then judge)with a decision of this weight would react completely differently to things they think outside a courtroom. Just a thought.
By:
akabula
When: 20 Dec 14 23:22
Clungehungry
And if it was your daughter?


You would be talking revenge then as opposed to justice.
By:
Clungehungry
When: 20 Dec 14 23:25
You're right, and I've every sympathy with the family of a victim wanting vengeance. That's a million miles though, from an unrelated stranger wanting an excuse to kill an 18 year old girl.
By:
akabula
When: 20 Dec 14 23:31
You're right, and I've every sympathy with the family of a victim wanting vengeance. That's a million miles though, from an unrelated stranger wanting an excuse to kill an 18 year old girl.

Agreed.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 20 Dec 14 23:33
Ditto.
By:
Do wah Diddy
When: 20 Dec 14 23:33
NOT A MENTION OF THE FAT CATS WHO SELL THE DRUG FOR A PROFIT
By:
Do wah Diddy
When: 20 Dec 14 23:35
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE NOT JUST THE PICTURE THAT YOUR SEEING,
By:
bix
When: 21 Dec 14 09:33
Remove all safety features for the driver. No airbag, seatbelt  etc and sit the driver at the very front of the car in an ordinary glass shell so if there is an accident the driver will be seriously injured or killed.
In most modern cars drivers are inside a ton of metal sorrounded by safety feature so can drive without regard for the more vulnerable road users like pedestrians and cyclists, knowing it's not them that will be hurt or killed by their selfish actions.
By:
cloughandtaylor
When: 21 Dec 14 10:15
There are countless traffic cop shows on tv every week, UK, USA and Australia.

One thing they have in common is that very few of those arrested ever go to prison, Australian found srashed on a grass verge, senseless, arrogant and a poor liar.

Turned out that he could afford to be arrogant as he had been disqualified for drink driving three times previous.

End of programme disclosed a guilty verdict in court, six month suspended plus 12 month ban.

Aus and UK are no different to countries in the EU in that these states are now run by lawyer`s, and many of these lawyer`s are the majority in any parliament regardless of which party they represent.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 21 Dec 14 11:23
Just Checking   
20 Dec 14 18:57 
There is drink driving and drink driving, both are wrong but carefully going home a little bit over for a couple miles in a quiet town on empty roads at 20mph is an entirely different crime to going hell for leather at 76mph at more than twice the limit, where the predictable accident is probably going to kill at least one person and maybe a family or two. 5 Years is lenient given early release.


I was on a job to the south of Builth Wells (mid-Wales) about 25 years ago. Went into a local for a pint or two as there was fack all else to do. It was in the middle of nowhere and pretty busy. The car park was full up!! Everybody was drinking. Some time later I asked where a taxi firm was, and the response was something like 'Taxis? Not 'ere boyo, drive yourself home, and keep the speed down, isn't it.' Happy 

And they all did it Shocked

I found out the next night that one of them was a policeman, and they thought I was an Australian ffs.
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 21 Dec 14 11:38
Another one....


Ex-professional footballer Scott Sellars has been given a six-month suspended sentence after he fell asleep behind the wheel and ended up killing a motorcyclist.



WHAT NEXT....will the government be paying drivers to kill people? So the they can control the population numbers.
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 21 Dec 14 11:49
Shorter sentencing does nothing but remove the deterrent, and in some cases persuade vigilantism.


.....and people who cry 'but keeping them in is at a expense to the British tax payer' is an disgusting insult to the victims and the victims families.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 21 Dec 14 11:49
How much wonga will I get for running amok in a 38 tonner in Newham?
By:
JC1326
When: 21 Dec 14 16:59

Dec 20, 2014 -- 11:31PM, akabula wrote:


You're right, and I've every sympathy with the family of a victim wanting vengeance. That's a million miles though, from an unrelated stranger wanting an excuse to kill an 18 year old girl.Agreed.


I admit it, I'd be happy to see the drunken idiot strung up. She killed another human being, and it was down to stupidity. She deserves to die, imo, I don't care how old she is.

By:
Clungehungry
When: 22 Dec 14 09:08
Ah yes, kill the stupid youths. It's probably quite a good job you're not in charge of anything and society is a little bit better than that.
By:
naydam
When: 22 Dec 14 09:18
I sincerely hope that any future drink-driving offence that she may commit is treated with this offence in mind.
By:
cloughandtaylor
When: 22 Dec 14 09:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlKCUVc7iOw
By:
Coachbuster
When: 22 Dec 14 13:16
soft sentence  maybe on paper ,but she is young and probably niave/ foolish - she wouldn't have set out to kill anyone .

She will have to live with this .

No winners in this .
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