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TheChaser
19 Dec 14 15:19
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any news on who committed this crime

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/pc-neil-doyle-dies-after-liverpool-assault/ar-BBgZkO8?ocid=mailsignout
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Report jed.davison December 19, 2014 4:16 PM GMT
I'm not sure if this is standard practise, but no description other than "a group of males" is given on the famously agenda-free BBC website.
Report MadVlad December 19, 2014 4:34 PM GMT
Terrible for his family,go to work and never come home RIP.
Report toffee87 December 19, 2014 8:12 PM GMT
he hadn't gone to work - he was on a night out with work colleagues (fellow policemen) and was thought to have been attacked because they had been recognised as police officers
Report The Leopard December 20, 2014 10:19 AM GMT
Way out of order !
Report Angel Gabrial December 20, 2014 11:51 AM GMT
We don`t know the full story yet do we.
Report xmoneyx December 20, 2014 4:38 PM GMT
Detectives investigating the death of off-duty police constable Neil Doyle have arrested a man on suspicion of murder, Merseyside Police said.

The 28-year-old suspect handed himself in to police last night and is currently being interviewed by detectives, officers said.

Pc Doyle, 36, was attacked in Liverpool city centre in the early hours yesterday during a Christmas night out with colleagues.

He was due to go on his honeymoon next month.

Pc Doyle was with two other off-duty officers when they were attacked by three men in Colquitt Street at around 3.15am.

His colleagues were both treated in hospital for facial injuries.

A Merseyside Police spokesman said detectives were investigating the possibility that the officers were recognised from their work.

"It's one line of inquiry that we are looking at but it's by no means the set-in-stone motive," he said.

Pc Doyle, who joined the force in May 2004, was taken to the Royal Liverpool Hospital after the attack, but died a short time later.

The officer, who got married in July, had received a commendation for his actions in arresting three men after a violent robbery.

He was based at Eaton Road police station in West Derby.

Peter Singleton, chairman of Merseyside Police Federation, said the police community was "devastated" by Pc Doyle's death.

"Devastated is the nearest word I can think of," he said. "His family, friends and colleagues are absolutely devastated. I spoke to the colleagues who were out with him and they were in absolute bits.

"He exemplified the British bobby. He was a solid, good, hard-working, honest copper. Losing a colleague like Neil in such a tragic way is absolutely devastating."
Report Angel Gabrial December 20, 2014 7:39 PM GMT
"It's one line of inquiry that we are looking at but it's by no means the set-in-stone motive," he said.

Where they recognized or did they get into an argument, start pushing their weight about? 3.15 in the morning and probably tanked up did they stick their faces into someone elses business? A hard habit to lose. Two sides to every story as they say.
Report Ibrahima Sonko December 20, 2014 7:43 PM GMT
The person gave himself up so i doubt it is race related.
Report Crisp77 December 23, 2014 1:11 PM GMT
Two footballers http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/two-merseyside-men-charge...
Report TheChaser December 23, 2014 2:27 PM GMT
scumbags
Report Angel Gabrial December 23, 2014 10:15 PM GMT
Two sides to every story, i wouldn`t jump to calling anyone a scumbag for getting into a brawl. It can easily happen, and it only takes one knock on the head to kill someone.
Report ebulGery December 23, 2014 11:17 PM GMT
No we don't know what happened for sure yet

But if they were attacked because they were recognised as police officers, then the attackers would have to be in the wrong

So I think a murder/manslaughter charge may well follow

but we don't certain as yet
Report ebulGery December 23, 2014 11:22 PM GMT
I doubt that the fact the men who attacked the police officers were footballers had much relevance myself

I could not open that link
Report Angel Gabrial December 23, 2014 11:39 PM GMT
One works for an international sports marketing company.
The other one is a football coach on the books in Oklahoma.

My gut feeling is that the police are not the victims of sour grapes after being recognized, but that obnoxious behaviour was involved leading to an argument and then more.
Report Dotchinite December 23, 2014 11:50 PM GMT
The facts are unlikely to matter much. The police will make sure they get a result here.
Report Angel Gabrial December 23, 2014 11:55 PM GMT
True Dotch, if the other two say they where recognized then that will be tough to budge.

However it was 3.15am how long had the cops been boozing for? tanked up and obnoxious is always a possibility.
Report cloughandtaylor December 23, 2014 11:58 PM GMT
Didn`t open the link yet either, but before i do i am confident the headline rules out Joey Barton and Vincent Jones.

The awful thing about this case is this imo.

Even if the officers were attacked by 3 men that were recognisable, lawyers will, move heaven and earth for a manslaughter case.

We have to be realistic and remember that policemen have little say in upholding the law of this land, due to being opposed by the lawyers that have reduced sentences from petty to even the most shocking crimes.

Harry Roberts was released for killing three officers after 40 odd years, some great train robbers served 30 for stealing money from the establishment, where is the justice?
Report Angel Gabrial December 24, 2014 12:00 AM GMT
Two ex-footballers are due in court today charged with the street murder of off-duty Merseyside PC Neil Doyle.

Andrew Taylor, 28, and Christopher Spendlove, 30, are alleged to have killed the newly-married officer, 36, in Liverpool city centre.

Two other off-duty colleagues also on a Christmas night out with PC Doyle were injured in the assault in Colquitt Street in the early hours of Friday morning.

Taylor and Spendlove, who are close friends, are both known around Merseyside’s non-league football circuit and played together under scholarships in America.
Report Dotchinite December 24, 2014 12:00 AM GMT
Which train robber did 30 years?
Report Angel Gabrial December 24, 2014 12:00 AM GMT
Taylor, from Huyton, has played at the highest level of the semi-professional game with Conference Premier side Forest Green Rovers.

He also played as a defender for Vauxhall Motors and Burscough before reportedly turning his hand to working for an international sports marketing company.

Spendlove, who as a schoolboy played for Everton and Preston North End, is currently listed as an assistant coach at American side Oklahoma Energy FC, who are in the third tier of US professional football.

He was awarded a scholarship with Oklahoma City University while playing for St Helens Town in 2007.

Oklahoma Energy FC tonight said they had dismissed Spendlove, who is originally from Stockbridge Village, from the club.
Report cloughandtaylor December 24, 2014 12:14 AM GMT
Dotchinite,

I was working from memory as a kid with the help of tonight`s consumption of alcohol, should have said sentenced, not actually served.

Just been to wikipidia for a reminder of the sentences.

Sentence
John Thomas Daly     32     antiques dealer     N/A—No Case to Answer
Ronald Arthur Biggs     34     carpenter     30 years (25 years for conspiracy to rob and 30 years for armed robbery)
Douglas Gordon Goody     34     hairdresser     30 years (25 years for conspiracy to rob and 30 years for armed robbery)
Charles Frederick Wilson     31     market trader     30 years (25 years for conspiracy to rob and 30 years for armed robbery)
Thomas William Wisbey     34     bookmaker     30 years (25 years for conspiracy to rob and 30 years for armed robbery)
Robert Welch     34     club proprietor     30 years (25 years for conspiracy to rob and 30 years for armed robbery)
James Hussey     34     painter     30 years (25 years for conspiracy to rob and 30 years for armed robbery)
Roy John James     28     racing motorist and silversmith     30 years (25 years for conspiracy to rob and 30 years for armed robbery)
Roger John Cordrey     42     florist     20 years (20 years for conspiracy to rob and various receiving stolen goods charges)
Brian Arthur Field     29     solicitor's clerk     25 years (20 years for Conspiracy to rob and 5 years for obstructing justice)
Leonard Denis Field     31     merchant seaman     25 years (20 years for Conspiracy to rob and 5 years for obstructing justice)
John Denby Wheater     41     solicitor     3 years
William Gerald Boal     50     engineer     24 years

What they actually served is probably theresomewhere too, a little too late for me.
Report ebulGery December 24, 2014 12:34 AM GMT
Your theory is interesting Angel...

But their word against a police officers, they may have a devil of job proving it
because the police tend to get believed

But if you get that feeling Angel, fair enough, you are basically saying these are two good guys who would not attack without reason?
The police have been known to lie

I would need to know more details myself
Report ZEALOT December 24, 2014 10:33 PM GMT
Bet the footballers are gutted now ha ha ha

Sat in their cells crying thinking about their families .  The sooner they bring back the DEATH PENALTYthe better .

No better thing in life than bully's getting their day ha ha ha ha ha
Report moisok December 24, 2014 10:59 PM GMT
they should have walked away instead .......... mayhem ..........  now we have a dead copper coz I think I am a big man
w&nkers!!!
Report ZEALOT December 24, 2014 11:06 PM GMT
Probably full of beak Laugh

No Christmas dinner for them tomorrow - FYKIN animals - they deserve everything they get

I'd exterminate them tbh
Report cod-eyed-inbread December 24, 2014 11:20 PM GMT
coppers on nights out are flash bstards ive had them start on me before for nowt if you give it to them back they flash the card WHHANKERS
Report call me a taxi December 24, 2014 11:32 PM GMT
suspect ^^^^
Report Mikael D'Haguenet December 24, 2014 11:39 PM GMT
ZEALOT     24 Dec 14 22:33 
Bet the footballers are gutted now ha ha ha

Sat in their cells crying thinking about their families .  The sooner they bring back the DEATH PENALTYthe better .

No better thing in life than bully's getting their day ha ha ha ha ha


Ha ha ha? What a fecking weirdo. Maybe the footballers were thinking there's nothing better in life than 'bully's' getting their day as they killed the copper.
Report ZEALOT December 25, 2014 12:20 AM GMT
^^^. Proper weirdo Mik ha ha ha
Report tobermory December 28, 2014 12:21 AM GMT
People make a lot of assumptions with a case like this .Usually , the person who has been killed is assumed to have been entirely blameless.

That may be the case , maybe not .

My first assumption going by the way it was presented - that they were identified as police officers by their attackers - was most likely gangster/thug type characters that Liverpool seems to have an awful lot of .

But know it seems they are mostly known as local footballers and that they had worked in America ? You'd struggle to get work in the US if you have any convictions at all .

Hard to see a hitherto law abiding person attacking someone who was a police officer for no reason other than that Plain
Report Angel Gabrial December 29, 2014 5:01 PM GMT
^^^^^ Tobe is on the right lines.
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