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By:
casemoney
When: 15 Dec 14 22:07
Extremist ,Islamist ,Terrorist words still being used ,for world news ,NONCE MAD BASTARD not suitable ..
By:
casemoney
When: 15 Dec 14 22:09
SELF RADICALISED , LONE WOLF Laugh Laugh u cannot make it up ,he had forgotten his flag Laugh
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Dec 14 22:12
Yes casemoney, and the sick fcuk was out on bail, also sent hate letters to wives of soldiers, seems the Aussies are as stupefied by the PC brigade as we are.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 15 Dec 14 22:14
They had the shot, pull the trigger ffs. Innocent people have been murdered.Cry
By:
casemoney
When: 15 Dec 14 22:15
I will bet 10 on hes never owned an Isis flag Laugh
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 15 Dec 14 22:15
Fox, I lived and worked in Australia, it is without doubt the most compliant country I've ever been to.
By:
casemoney
When: 15 Dec 14 22:17
The problem is this kind of absolute shyte being thrown out by the world media will only lead to more innocent people being killed Sad
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 15 Dec 14 22:17
Your average true blue Aussie hates what has become of their country.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Dec 14 22:19
Slippy, was there a few years ago, your observations are spot on.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Dec 14 22:24
Slippy I was at Uluru - Ayers Rock and we were asked not to walk up it a dozen or so Chinese scrambled up as we were getting this request, One guy said to the tour guide those Chinese are a bit rude, the tour guide retorted yes mate, they're all facking retards!!LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
David Fishwick Minibus Sales
When: 15 Dec 14 22:30
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http://collegetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/chinese.jpg
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Dec 14 22:31
Great episode David Laugh
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 15 Dec 14 22:35
Getting a bit tiresome people saying this muslim was a lone wolf or a nutter, seems to happen an awful lot for it to be nutter driven by a flawed backward religion.
By:
casemoney
When: 15 Dec 14 22:46
Lone wolf with flag is world news ,Wanted Sex case is not ..
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 15 Dec 14 23:07
Trigger, pull, jobsagoodun.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Dec 14 23:09
The could photograph the **** but not shoot him and save lives Crazy
By:
guinness2dear
When: 15 Dec 14 23:21
I presume they never sniped him because they didn't know whether his mate Abdul was sat in the cafe with him?
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 15 Dec 14 23:25
they could had sniped him or gassed them, you have to think australia have failed a bit like the uk would in this scenario.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 15 Dec 14 23:30
There was also the chance that he had a bomb in there with a RC. I think they did all they could. They waited it out, it only went off because some more ecsaped and he saw his arse and started firing at the hostages.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 15 Dec 14 23:36
Yes Ibrahima Sonko, I agree with you. The rest of us are begging the shooters to slot him to save the innocents. What a truly dreadful episode in our world that we now live in.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 15 Dec 14 23:42
guinneess2dear, intelligence would have known what his intentions were and what were the possible consequences. They should have taken hum out at the first opportunity and you know that.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Dec 14 23:45
I'm sure that was a consideration guinness, but given his KNOWN profile and the fact that some had escaped, so must have given some intel, the "classic waiting game" seems a dubious option given the flag and headband (never ends well). Did it not occur to them that if he was alone would he could become more agitated and desperate with each passing hour without sleep.

They knew he was a criminal, and not the sharpest tool in the box.

As it was the special forces reacted, AFTER shots had been fired, Their whole Raison d'être, is to be proactive,  speed, surprise, and violence are their greatest weapons, unfortunately for the poor souls that died, speed and violence came too late.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Dec 14 23:54
^^^^In short snipe him and instantly go in, they had to go in anyway, it was inevitable.
By:
casemoney
When: 15 Dec 14 23:57
You have to be careful with these Lone Wolf Types ,anyone demanding a flag is deemed extremely dangerous ,especially those who forget to bring their flags with them ,although they never owned a flag anyway,the best way of taking these extremely
dangerous individuals out, is the storm the place throwing stun grenades and tear gas with about 20 men with guns ,also wait
till its pitch black so as you can see **** all when entering the building firing guns randomnly .. This can cause the Lone Wolf to have a heart attack ,if you are lucky no hostages will be shot or die of shock ..
By:
dimeless
When: 15 Dec 14 23:59
just when the c.i.a need to justify torture, up pops a terrorist. strange eh?
By:
Pleasegivemeanailedontip
When: 15 Dec 14 23:59
Surprised the chit chat tactical response team have a policy of less chit chat
By:
boxingthefox
When: 16 Dec 14 00:01
Who lit your tampon.
By:
Clouseau
When: 16 Dec 14 00:10
^^^ didn't realise Wyatt Earp had an account here. Do you normally bet on the rodeos?
By:
boxingthefox
When: 16 Dec 14 00:12
Not A Clueso, save your bleeding heart for Dwarfs, much more your make.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 16 Dec 14 00:12
They may have had intelligence on him, and obviously the 'escapees' would have told of his disposition, but, he hadn't hurt anyone, and the longer it went on, the more they thought they could get them all out with no deaths (i presume) what changed everything was the escapes.

I personally, would have shot the phucker through the windows, But i also would never have slept again if he would then have detonated a bomb wiping all out. I'm glad it wasn't my choice.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 16 Dec 14 00:19
I agree guinness, but this is chit chat, and we can look at all sorts of possibilities. A point lost on a few others on here.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 16 Dec 14 00:26
What the Aussie authorities should be asking themselves is how the holy hell was this nobrot allowed to be walking about and on bail, considering the charges he faced.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 16 Dec 14 00:27
Exactly, a point made earlier.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 16 Dec 14 00:43
I was right at 10:27 then.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 16 Dec 14 15:34
Just found out today that my Sydney based daughter uses that cafe regularly!
By:
Just Checking
When: 16 Dec 14 17:05
I'd have thought the best procedure was to chuck in a stun or two at once, wait until they finish, then ASAP run in when your bad guy was "stunned", before he has time to think and react. The footage seemed to show them throwing in a series of them over a fair period of time waiting until each finished, then eventually they go in. The entire time he could have been firing at last place he knew people were or worse.

Source: Armchair General Magazine (Christmas Edition)
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 16 Dec 14 17:11
theres no way 2 members of the public should be killed the police had so many chances to take him out with snipers
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 16 Dec 14 17:20
I think what put them off that course of action was the fact the nutter had a rucksack strapped to his back
By:
Injera
When: 16 Dec 14 17:40
Is it just me or did the Aussies fire a hell of a lot of bullets at ONE man....

All a bit American if you ask me.
By:
naydam
When: 16 Dec 14 21:46
Humane killing. You should never leave a wounded animal to suffer. Especially if he's in a hurry to get into 'Paradise'.
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