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Scrap metal dealer Ion Lazar plans to pay for the house with generous child bene?t and tax credits funded by taxpayers.
Handouts have made him so rich he pays tradesmen in cash to build the property in Romania for his wife and three children.

He said: “It’s coming in bene?ts. It’s like free money, thank you England.” The situation was last night labelled a “national scandal” and an insult to hard-working families after ?gures showed £30million in child bene?t was sent from Britain to 20,400 families in other European countries in 2012-13.

Outrage over child benefit and tax credits has seen David Cameron call for a four-year ban on migrants claiming benefits.
Mr Lazar, 36, is able to claim benefits because his part-time wage as a self-employed scrap metal collector in London is so low he pays no tax.
He says his children are a passport to £1,700 a month in welfare.
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Report flushgordon1 December 8, 2014 9:23 AM GMT
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qHWJg8q7cRk
Report dustybin December 8, 2014 9:35 AM GMT
Stoooooge
Report flushgordon1 December 8, 2014 9:44 AM GMT
Which makes you mayor of simpleton.
Report dustybin December 8, 2014 10:26 AM GMT
Funk knows what you on about, I've not even looked at your link
I'm on about the thread
Report Facts December 8, 2014 10:31 AM GMT
In a Channel 5 documentary this week he boasts how British taxpayers are funding lavish improvements to   the family home in the gypsy village of Argetoaia in southern Romania. I


Ukip MEP Steven Woolfe said: “This is further proof of the national scandal   of the abuse of our benefits system.



“These outrageous cases show how badly we need to reform the benefits system.” A Department for Work and Pensions spokesman said:


4 horse accum. :-


Daily Express
Channel 5
UKIP
Dept of work and pensions.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 8, 2014 10:43 AM GMT
Is it true or not? That's the only thing we need to ask.
Report Ramruma December 8, 2014 11:13 AM GMT
It might well be true, but hard cases make bad law.

If benefits are set at a level for a normal family in Britain, then people in abnormal circumstances (ie with unusually low living costs) can take advantage. Same with wages -- people who need to pay rent on a house and support a family can have their wages undercut by people who can doss five to a room for a year or so.

The obvious answer is ... well, if there was one, probably someone would have found it by now.
Report akabula December 8, 2014 11:13 AM GMT
It wouldn't surprise me if it was true.
Report The Leopard December 8, 2014 11:20 AM GMT
We should concentrate them all......in ...errr....something like a .....camp ! Yes, that's it !
Report Ken Masters December 8, 2014 11:21 AM GMT
Channel 5 is owned by Viacom these days, not Dirty Desmond any more, back to a 3 horse acca.
Report call me a taxi December 8, 2014 11:33 AM GMT
LMAO at Facts digging out the Express.

If it wasn't the Express it would be any other paper except his beloved Guardian.
Report The Leopard December 8, 2014 11:46 AM GMT
CMAT, the Guardian is a great newspaper, you shouldn't let your tussle with Facts taint your view it.
Report call me a taxi December 8, 2014 12:06 PM GMT
The Guardian gave over a whole page to Farage's agreement with Claridges over women breast feeding.

That's now gone, and they have the astounding news that Farage missed   a meeting in Wales due to 'high immigration and traffic chaos' on the M4'
with 2822 comments

Food banks
with 1562 comments

Action to halt nuisance call plague
with 395 comments


Nuclear arms
with 253 comments

Japanese recession
with 91 comments


Looking down the side of the main page you can see which items of news have comments by the public.

It seems very odd to me that any news that contains 'child abuse is an epidemic' doesn't appear to have the comment boxes open, as there are none.



And having scouted the entire main news pages I can't find one word on the African boys murder in Scotland. 

I put 'Alva' in the search box, it came up with nothing of note. I put 'Clackmannanshire' in the search box, it brought up articles from  2009 and  2010.

Yet they already have the Dewani judges verdict, which was delivered less than an hour ago.


Top story - FARAGE
over 2800 comments
we now know what Guardian readers like to comment on most.
Report The Leopard December 8, 2014 1:33 PM GMT
3307 comments now

One here :

Alan Davis :

Does anybody else see there being a bit of a shame in Farage deliberately trying to antagonise Guardian readers on the one hand with his statements (because he thinks it will win him enough votes) - and the Guardian totally rising to the (click) bait on the other (because it thinks 24/7 coverage it helps to demonise him in the minds of enough voters)?

Call a truce please - leave the playground and try to get over each other - if only for the sake of your readers and going back to some decent and more urgently needed reporting.
Report Burton-Brewers December 8, 2014 1:52 PM GMT
this is actually an old story. The bloke was in the papers a few months ago saying how he intended to send home 60k in 3 years, he went on to say if he could not earn it then he would steal it.
Report Ramruma December 8, 2014 1:56 PM GMT
Is that Guardian readers or any paper's readers? -- A lot of commenters on political stories are activists for other political parties.
Report moisok December 8, 2014 7:12 PM GMT
The Guardian had up to 5 different stories on breastfeeding with a total of well over 11,000 comments.  I cannot remember the last story they opened for comment on the issues around the community who must not be named!!!!
Report flushgordon1 December 8, 2014 7:54 PM GMT
I made comment on both guardian and bbc websites commenting on the fact that getting your tits out to feed your pot lid in the bbc canteen could have been a tad risque if jimmy savile,rod harris stewart hall and dlt had been there, apart from having them drooling over her tits and diluting her milk she would probably have gotten touched up in the corridor going back to where she worked,
Surprisingly for liberal establishment who are against the censorship of free speech both posts lasted seconds.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 8, 2014 8:14 PM GMT
They're only against censoring free speech which disagrees with them flushy.
Report Facts December 8, 2014 8:20 PM GMT
flushgordon1     08 Dec 14 19:54 
I made comment on both guardian and bbc websites commenting on the fact that getting your tits out to feed your pot lid in the bbc canteen could have been a tad risque if jimmy savile,rod harris stewart hall and dlt had been there, apart from having them drooling over her tits and diluting her milk she would probably have gotten touched up in the corridor going back to where she worked,
Surprisingly for liberal establishment who are against the censorship of free speech both posts lasted seconds.





Pity that didn't occur on here
Report dewey December 8, 2014 8:24 PM GMT
Don't rub it in !!!!!!!!!!
Report flushgordon1 December 8, 2014 8:29 PM GMT
Ps the guardian post was changed slightly from savile etc to pakistani research assistants.you want the facts ,facts you cant handle the facts
Report call me a taxi December 8, 2014 10:23 PM GMT
moisok    08 Dec 14 19:12 
The Guardian had up to 5 different stories on breastfeeding with a total of well over 11,000 comments.  I cannot remember the last story they opened for comment on the issues around the community who must not be named!!!!


Sums the Guardian up perfectly from what I've seen on there recently.
Report mad mad moon December 8, 2014 11:06 PM GMT
Whos Rod Harris?
Report call me a taxi December 8, 2014 11:36 PM GMT
Mrs Harris's boy.
Report Dobbo December 8, 2014 11:48 PM GMT
When I moved to Belgium in 2008 to set up as a self employed person I required
Complete history of every school and job, every exam
Testimonials,in depth, from at least four people or companies
Proof that I was capable and experienced in the business
10k in a Belgian bank
From day 1 I had to be registered with the Ministry if Finance and had to register for vat before I had taken a single euro
Had to register with the police who came round twice tomake sure I lived where I claimed to live.So if we are all in this  Euro experience together how come Belgium does the job properly and we don't do it at all
Report toffee87 December 9, 2014 10:08 AM GMT
^^^^^

because Shami Chakrabarti would soon be complaining that it was against their human rights
Report G1_Jockey_4 December 9, 2014 10:24 AM GMT
Proof that I was capable and experienced in the business
10k in a Belgian bank
From day 1 I had to be registered with the Ministry if Finance and had to register for vat before I had taken a single euro
Had to register with the police who came round twice tomake sure I lived where I claimed to live.So if we are all in this  Euro experience together how come Belgium does the job properly and we don't do it at all


your right re other countries...can only imagine the uk cant be @rsed as it would cost too much without any money coming back for it.

the 10k in a bank though is not quite right.
what would they not give you?residency?
technically they cant stop you working or living in belgium.

you may have issues in some areas like buying a car etc.

but legally they can not kick you out if you hold an eu passport....they may fine you if you have no job...but if you had a job you would be self sufficient, probably covered by health etc because your paying your taxes.

but i agree with this.
you shoudlnt beable to just swanny into some country without enough $$$ just looking for work....fair enough if you have work before you arrive.
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