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I can't see another thread on this
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/horror-body-five-year-old-boy-found-4757205
Headlines through google reference the heart being cut out as do the articles in the paper today but the online article doesn't which is a bit strange but horrendous all the same.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/horror-body-five-year-old-boy-found-4757205
Headlines through google reference the heart being cut out as do the articles in the paper today but the online article doesn't which is a bit strange but horrendous all the same.
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trading name, bodil bones, no job too small, thank me later
What an over reaction to the whole female gender, all women are horrible creatures because of this happened lol. Women make the world go round, and this is clearly a case of a women who has mental health problems, you'd have to, to do such a thing, if only as much money was spent on mental health as is spent on physical health the country would be in a much better place.
I've put up with so much cr@p because of family for years and years and years, there is no way now that I'd ever put up with any more cr@p now they're all dead.
Women are the very beginning of everyone's mental health problems.
Horrible creatures.
Horrible creatures.
Time you took a break, Tommy. You're coming out with ridiculous statements and insulting everyone in sight (apart from your mates)
I'm rested, Bodil.
Just wised-up recently.
Took me a hell of a long time though.
Just wised-up recently.
Took me a hell of a long time though.
There has been an increase in evil acts attributed to females.
Anyone who was old enough when the crimes of Brady and Hindlay came to light will remember the shock that was expressed because a female was involved.
Same to a lesser extent with the Wests but year on year more and more females have been involved in heinous crimes.
Anyone who was old enough when the crimes of Brady and Hindlay came to light will remember the shock that was expressed because a female was involved.
Same to a lesser extent with the Wests but year on year more and more females have been involved in heinous crimes.
scandanavian_haven, we don't know the facts and given our glorious press, what version we will eventually get. As an ex Londonerof 50 years, like many current Londoners I am acutely aware of the many young African children ritually killed and dumped in the Thames for superstitious ritualistic purposes,
Now if the forgoing is deemed mental illness then the perpetrators should be in an institution for the criminally insane. Past cases have clearly demonstrated that these were premeditated, ritualistic slayings.
Now if the forgoing is deemed mental illness then the perpetrators should be in an institution for the criminally insane. Past cases have clearly demonstrated that these were premeditated, ritualistic slayings.
Tommy Toes
I'm rested, Bodil.
Just wised-up recently.
Took me a hell of a long time though
Tommy, a cigarette paper would not divide us on this.
I'm rested, Bodil.
Just wised-up recently.
Took me a hell of a long time though
Tommy, a cigarette paper would not divide us on this.
Saying all women are horrible creatures probably mean you need to give over Tommy, most wars and suffering in human history are the result of the actions of men. You can't know many women if you think they are all horrible, not logical, maybe you're exaggerating to emphasise your bad experiences?
no point lashing out at me next (you seem to be a mission),
I think if women were in power we'd all be better off and they'd be alot less dead people
(Thatcher a very bad reference point I admit.)
Boxing, I would say anyone that partakes in what is best described as sadistic rituals, is insane. That's where they should be, in institutions, where they can be rehabilitated away from their main influences which is usually the man of the family.
The unfortunate thing about London is that there are too many people, so if you suffer from mental health issues, I would imagine that compounds the problem.
As for religion, I honestly believe it's the biggest hoax of all time and it has caused more suffering that not, but agree whether real or not it brings alot of comfort to people in this big bad world.(Nothing a nice cup of tea wont fix though
)
no point lashing out at me next (you seem to be a mission),
I think if women were in power we'd all be better off and they'd be alot less dead people
(Thatcher a very bad reference point I admit.)
Boxing, I would say anyone that partakes in what is best described as sadistic rituals, is insane. That's where they should be, in institutions, where they can be rehabilitated away from their main influences which is usually the man of the family.
The unfortunate thing about London is that there are too many people, so if you suffer from mental health issues, I would imagine that compounds the problem.
As for religion, I honestly believe it's the biggest hoax of all time and it has caused more suffering that not, but agree whether real or not it brings alot of comfort to people in this big bad world.(Nothing a nice cup of tea wont fix though
)
Boxing, I would say anyone that partakes in what is best described as sadistic rituals, is insane. That's where they should be, in institutions, where they can be rehabilitated away from their main influences which is usually the man of the family.
The unfortunate thing about London is that there are too many people, so if you suffer from mental health issues, I would imagine that compounds the problem.
As for religion, I honestly believe it's the biggest hoax of all time and it has caused more suffering that not, but agree whether real or not it brings alot of comfort to people in this big bad world.(Nothing a nice cup of tea wont fix thoughHappy)
The unfortunate thing about London is that there are too many people, so if you suffer from mental health issues, I would imagine that compounds the problem.
As for religion, I honestly believe it's the biggest hoax of all time and it has caused more suffering that not, but agree whether real or not it brings alot of comfort to people in this big bad world.(Nothing a nice cup of tea wont fix thoughHappy)
Sorry about that, was just about to say I agree completely with you post with the exception of the participants of rituals being insane(legally or otherwise)if you are indoctrinated (From childhood)into these beliefs then they pass for normal/acceptable/necessary in your culture/beief system/religion. to the perpetrators.
Hundreds of children 'vanishing'
The discovery of a boy's torso led police to look at missing children
Hundreds of African boys have disappeared from London schools, police investigating the murder of a boy whose torso was left in the Thames have said.
Scotland Yard asked London education authorities how many black boys aged four to seven had vanished from school.
Between July and September 2001, 300 had disappeared, and police fear thousands may go missing annually.
Child welfare experts say the figures hint at the scale of child trafficking, sometimes for labour or benefit fraud.
A previous BBC investigation found some African children were being held by their parents' creditors, so they could claim extra benefits.
'Lost in the system'
The boy found in the River Thames in September 2001 - called Adam by police - is thought to have been the victim of a ritual killing after being brought to London from Nigeria.
Detective Chief Inspector Will O'Reilly said inquiries revealed 300 black boys of a similar age to Adam had not reported back to school in the three months before his death and were "lost into the system".
They are being trafficked, they are being emotionally abused, there are incidences of domestic slavery, there is physical abuse, sexual abuse
Yinka Sunmonu
Author and journalist
Radio 4 report
"It is a large figure - far more than we anticipated when we started this line of inquiry," Mr O'Reilly said.
Of the missing boys, 299 came from Africa and one from the Caribbean.
Despite an international search, police were able to find only two of them, Mr O'Reilly said. Most of those questioned said the children had returned to Africa.
While there is nothing to suggest these children have been murdered, a lack of immigration records makes them almost impossible to trace, police say.
'Underground' problem
Chris Atkinson, policy adviser on child protection for the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children said children needed to be tracked upon arrival in the UK and called for a register of approved private foster carers.
We have quite a large number of parents or families who apparently go missing but actually just move on
Tim Benson
Head teacher
When schoolchildren vanish
The BBC's Angus Stickler says part of the problem lies with the custom in many African communities of placing children with distant relatives.
The government does not currently force adults who take children in these circumstances, known as private fostering, to register. It fears doing so could drive the problem underground.
Felicity Collier, of the British Association for Adoption and Fostering, said the problem was already underground and she called for tighter controls.
But Tim Benson, head teacher at Nelson Primary School in East Ham, London, and a National Association of Head Teachers representative, said most children were probably happily ensconced in another school.
"We have quite a large number of parents or families who apparently go missing but actually just move on and don't know that they have to inform anyone," he said.
Children's register
A spokeswoman for the Department for Education and Skills said she could not comment on details of the investigation but the government was "deeply concerned" about any child missing from education.
Under the 2004 Children's Act - being implemented this year - local authorities are meant to advise people to tell social services if they are caring for a child.
Police and welfare groups hope this will make it easier to track vulnerable children.
Shadow secretary of state for children Theresa May said the Children's Act needed to go further, with a system allowing for prosecution of those who failed to register as carers.
Staggering figures regarding ' missing black children ' and this report was from 2005
The discovery of a boy's torso led police to look at missing children
Hundreds of African boys have disappeared from London schools, police investigating the murder of a boy whose torso was left in the Thames have said.
Scotland Yard asked London education authorities how many black boys aged four to seven had vanished from school.
Between July and September 2001, 300 had disappeared, and police fear thousands may go missing annually.
Child welfare experts say the figures hint at the scale of child trafficking, sometimes for labour or benefit fraud.
A previous BBC investigation found some African children were being held by their parents' creditors, so they could claim extra benefits.
'Lost in the system'
The boy found in the River Thames in September 2001 - called Adam by police - is thought to have been the victim of a ritual killing after being brought to London from Nigeria.
Detective Chief Inspector Will O'Reilly said inquiries revealed 300 black boys of a similar age to Adam had not reported back to school in the three months before his death and were "lost into the system".
They are being trafficked, they are being emotionally abused, there are incidences of domestic slavery, there is physical abuse, sexual abuse
Yinka Sunmonu
Author and journalist
Radio 4 report
"It is a large figure - far more than we anticipated when we started this line of inquiry," Mr O'Reilly said.
Of the missing boys, 299 came from Africa and one from the Caribbean.
Despite an international search, police were able to find only two of them, Mr O'Reilly said. Most of those questioned said the children had returned to Africa.
While there is nothing to suggest these children have been murdered, a lack of immigration records makes them almost impossible to trace, police say.
'Underground' problem
Chris Atkinson, policy adviser on child protection for the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children said children needed to be tracked upon arrival in the UK and called for a register of approved private foster carers.
We have quite a large number of parents or families who apparently go missing but actually just move on
Tim Benson
Head teacher
When schoolchildren vanish
The BBC's Angus Stickler says part of the problem lies with the custom in many African communities of placing children with distant relatives.
The government does not currently force adults who take children in these circumstances, known as private fostering, to register. It fears doing so could drive the problem underground.
Felicity Collier, of the British Association for Adoption and Fostering, said the problem was already underground and she called for tighter controls.
But Tim Benson, head teacher at Nelson Primary School in East Ham, London, and a National Association of Head Teachers representative, said most children were probably happily ensconced in another school.
"We have quite a large number of parents or families who apparently go missing but actually just move on and don't know that they have to inform anyone," he said.
Children's register
A spokeswoman for the Department for Education and Skills said she could not comment on details of the investigation but the government was "deeply concerned" about any child missing from education.
Under the 2004 Children's Act - being implemented this year - local authorities are meant to advise people to tell social services if they are caring for a child.
Police and welfare groups hope this will make it easier to track vulnerable children.
Shadow secretary of state for children Theresa May said the Children's Act needed to go further, with a system allowing for prosecution of those who failed to register as carers.
Staggering figures regarding ' missing black children ' and this report was from 2005
Saying all women are horrible creatures probably mean you need to give over Tommy, most wars and suffering in human history are the result of the actions of men. You can't know many women if you think they are all horrible, not logical, maybe you're exaggerating to emphasise your bad experiences?
Who knows, SH? Perhaps I am - but there again it might be a lifetime of experiences that I wouldn't trust a single woman - and never will ever again.
Men may be war mongers - but I understand that (and the testosterone) rather that then the sly, underhand, pure nastiness and hatred of the female sex.
Which all in all is far more damaging.
Who knows, SH? Perhaps I am - but there again it might be a lifetime of experiences that I wouldn't trust a single woman - and never will ever again.
Men may be war mongers - but I understand that (and the testosterone) rather that then the sly, underhand, pure nastiness and hatred of the female sex.
Which all in all is far more damaging.
Dec 7, 2014 -- 12:15AM, Eeternaloptimist wrote:
And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
This is exactly, EO, what I'm talking about.
Not only has it not been mentioned, but the 'left' are as appalled as the centre, the right and the front.
Your statement was pointless, argumentative, stupid and wrong.
A bit like alun2005's silly post about 'left-leaning' law firms. Why the F are they 'left-leaning'?
Or that the Guardian will deny it happened!?
It must be how you feed yourselves and get through your day.
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After reading this thread, I'm not sure which are worst; Women, the left, or Africans.
A combination of the 3 must be horrific.......
something like.......
Diane Abbott!!!!!
Studyform
I can only speak for myself but the point I was making is that it is very sad to see a mother take her child's life. It does happen of course and our instinctive reaction is to feel horror and sympathy for the child and wonder if there was a mental health aspect to it because such actions would usually seem out of character for someone who has brought that child into the world.
The issue which may be cultural which I find goes beyond the killing itself is the method. Cutting out the heart is so beyond my comprehension but if it really is a cultural phenomenon which has a home in Africa is this not something we should be discussing? Many things in the past have been waved through in our country in a desire to create multiculturalism. I make no apologies for saying then that we needed to pause and consider this and make no apologies for saying it now. Some aspects of what is acceptable in other cultures I don't want to become part of our culture.
This figure of the disappeared which facts puts up worries me. I didn't think I'd find myself saying it but I find the police reassurances and other explanations from care agencies which seem to me to imply that we probably needn't worry because these kids have gone back to Africa far too reminiscent of the hands off approach which allowed the child abuse by muslim gangs to go unchecked. The fact that they can't actually find these kids doesn't reassure me at all. In fact the opposite.
These are things which I feel the "soft left" and I include much of our social services, local councils and latterly sadly police, in these type of instances and post Macpherson, just haven't wanted to discuss fully and frankly. If it is starting to bite you then good because it might wake you up. It isn't too late to address the issue of multiculturalism. I see nothing wrong with a multiracial society although given the overwhelming number of indiginous whites we need to put that into perspective hen people tell us that there is an inevitability about anything. What I do want addressed is this issue of multiculturalism.
I can only speak for myself but the point I was making is that it is very sad to see a mother take her child's life. It does happen of course and our instinctive reaction is to feel horror and sympathy for the child and wonder if there was a mental health aspect to it because such actions would usually seem out of character for someone who has brought that child into the world.
The issue which may be cultural which I find goes beyond the killing itself is the method. Cutting out the heart is so beyond my comprehension but if it really is a cultural phenomenon which has a home in Africa is this not something we should be discussing? Many things in the past have been waved through in our country in a desire to create multiculturalism. I make no apologies for saying then that we needed to pause and consider this and make no apologies for saying it now. Some aspects of what is acceptable in other cultures I don't want to become part of our culture.
This figure of the disappeared which facts puts up worries me. I didn't think I'd find myself saying it but I find the police reassurances and other explanations from care agencies which seem to me to imply that we probably needn't worry because these kids have gone back to Africa far too reminiscent of the hands off approach which allowed the child abuse by muslim gangs to go unchecked. The fact that they can't actually find these kids doesn't reassure me at all. In fact the opposite.
These are things which I feel the "soft left" and I include much of our social services, local councils and latterly sadly police, in these type of instances and post Macpherson, just haven't wanted to discuss fully and frankly. If it is starting to bite you then good because it might wake you up. It isn't too late to address the issue of multiculturalism. I see nothing wrong with a multiracial society although given the overwhelming number of indiginous whites we need to put that into perspective hen people tell us that there is an inevitability about anything. What I do want addressed is this issue of multiculturalism.
Yes, that's all very nice but it isn't what you posted.
And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
is what you posted.
The 'left' - is not an all agreeing club of identically thinking people.
Who is "US", ffs? You seem to be intimating that you are one of a group who think this evil crime is evil, but the "left" (ie the not "us") do not.
It's a fecking dreadful crime, I couldn't give a tosss how mental the mother is, I and I'm sure others who think similarly to me would like to see unimaginably harsh punishment.
Whatever you feel about the 'soft left' and all the other stuff, you cannot seriously believe ANYONE will say you're being racist because this (or any other) crime was perpetrated by an African. If they did say it, they'd be fecking idiots, not necessarily people of "the left".
So, fundamentally what you posted was, as I said, pointless, argumentative and wrong.
And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
is what you posted.
The 'left' - is not an all agreeing club of identically thinking people.
Who is "US", ffs? You seem to be intimating that you are one of a group who think this evil crime is evil, but the "left" (ie the not "us") do not.
It's a fecking dreadful crime, I couldn't give a tosss how mental the mother is, I and I'm sure others who think similarly to me would like to see unimaginably harsh punishment.
Whatever you feel about the 'soft left' and all the other stuff, you cannot seriously believe ANYONE will say you're being racist because this (or any other) crime was perpetrated by an African. If they did say it, they'd be fecking idiots, not necessarily people of "the left".
So, fundamentally what you posted was, as I said, pointless, argumentative and wrong.
"After reading this thread, I'm not sure which are worst; Women, the left, or Africans.
A combination of the 3 must be horrific.......
something like.......
Diane Abbott!!!!!"
That really is a great post, Study!
A combination of the 3 must be horrific.......
something like.......
Diane Abbott!!!!!"
That really is a great post, Study!
I disagree Study..
I've heard this reported on BBC news (radio) as 'a death of a child'. The community were reported to be in shock but no other details were being released except to say the mother was being questioned.
This is not a 'death'. A person who dies of an illness suffers a death. This was allegedly a cold blooded, staggeringly heinous abomination.
Would help if the BBC stopped covering for certain sections of society..(and I include their own child abusers).
I've heard this reported on BBC news (radio) as 'a death of a child'. The community were reported to be in shock but no other details were being released except to say the mother was being questioned.
This is not a 'death'. A person who dies of an illness suffers a death. This was allegedly a cold blooded, staggeringly heinous abomination.
Would help if the BBC stopped covering for certain sections of society..(and I include their own child abusers).
Injera illustrates the issue perfectly. Over to you Studyform.
Who was talking about the BBC and their poor reporting?
As you are already, in my view very wrongly, convinced that the BBC is a 'left-wing' organ, you will justify your ridiculous 'the left don't think this is terrible' with the (possible) reporting restrictions.
It is utterly ridiculous to suggest that the BBC or any other part of the media will hide the reporting of this case on the basis of where the people are from.
Incidentally, I cannot find any sign of this story on the Sky news site either. Is this because of Sky's left-wing bias?
And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
So you both think this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is a reasonable sentence? Seriously?
Incidentally - It IS a death. A person who is dead has suffered a death.
However much you obfuscate, EO, or go into denial or even ignore it:
And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
is what you posted.
As you are already, in my view very wrongly, convinced that the BBC is a 'left-wing' organ, you will justify your ridiculous 'the left don't think this is terrible' with the (possible) reporting restrictions.
It is utterly ridiculous to suggest that the BBC or any other part of the media will hide the reporting of this case on the basis of where the people are from.
Incidentally, I cannot find any sign of this story on the Sky news site either. Is this because of Sky's left-wing bias?
And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
So you both think this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is a reasonable sentence? Seriously?
Incidentally - It IS a death. A person who is dead has suffered a death.
However much you obfuscate, EO, or go into denial or even ignore it:
And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
is what you posted.
Well said injera, not seen much about this on the TV today but they did mention a woman who left hospital with her baby into the cold.
I am surprised this hasnt got more coverage. An awful crime. How much coverage has and was maddy mccann given compared to this?
Perfectly put Injera.
It is either misreporting or inept journalism, we know the bbc have some fine people who for them.
It is either misreporting or inept journalism, we know the bbc have some fine people who for them.
It's not on ITV, C4, SKY, OR BBC's websites.
OMG!!!!
It's a bloody left wing conspiracy!!!!!!!!!
They're clustering now... all the people who are the reason to never venture onto the politics forum
OMG!!!!
It's a bloody left wing conspiracy!!!!!!!!!
They're clustering now... all the people who are the reason to never venture onto the politics forum
bizarre post by delightful at 2038.
Surely it is a big news story ?
Surely it is a big news story ?
One would have thought so, so one might assume there are reporting restrictions of some sort.
It wasn't a bizarre post, it was just by me on my mrs' account I forgot she was signed in.
It wasn't a bizarre post, it was just by me on my mrs' account I forgot she was signed in.
Study - it's not 'poor reporting' by the Beeb or Sky.
It's a clearly defined liberal agenda not to say anything remotely negative about certain parts of society.
The riots in America we're told are because 'a white policeman shot a black man'. These are the words the BBC have used time and again. A clear assumption that there has been racism against a member of the black community.
No condemnation of the rioters and no awareness that to label the white policeman as potentially racist is in fact racist because it assumes he fired his weapon based on the colour of a person's skin!
At no point have we ever heard the BBC or others in mainstream media push the case for black on white crime or to overtly challenge the damaging and downright destructive affect some communities are having on this country.
It's a clearly defined liberal agenda not to say anything remotely negative about certain parts of society.
The riots in America we're told are because 'a white policeman shot a black man'. These are the words the BBC have used time and again. A clear assumption that there has been racism against a member of the black community.
No condemnation of the rioters and no awareness that to label the white policeman as potentially racist is in fact racist because it assumes he fired his weapon based on the colour of a person's skin!
At no point have we ever heard the BBC or others in mainstream media push the case for black on white crime or to overtly challenge the damaging and downright destructive affect some communities are having on this country.
Studyform
We already have a perfect illustration of how what I referred to as the soft left deals with such issues with the many cases of muslim child sex abuse gangs. Brushed under the carpet at the time by police, councils and social services all in the name of multiculturalism and then a very muted response to the convictions. Contrast with Stephen Lawrence etc.
We already have a perfect illustration of how what I referred to as the soft left deals with such issues with the many cases of muslim child sex abuse gangs. Brushed under the carpet at the time by police, councils and social services all in the name of multiculturalism and then a very muted response to the convictions. Contrast with Stephen Lawrence etc.
I have no time for immigration, tbh.
I grew up in the east end of London in the 60's and 70's and went to a VERY mixed race shiithole of an all boys school.
I have no doubt that there are some complete fukcing morons and idealist ex-students with no idea about what living in "multicultural places" is really like, being responsible for putting a slant on everything and using positive discrimination - which is still discrimination.
I have seen, and been the victim of, stupid diversity rules which favour no-one really.
If you really think that all this anti-racial crap we all have to endure is a left/right thing, you are mistaken.
fwiw, I fully agree that racist black people should be pulled about it, I think the not mentioning things like Christmas in case it offends (which it never does) is as ridiculous as anyone else does. There is a lot of unfairness about.
You are all spectacularly wrong if you really think the reporting is being held back because it involves black people.
Just as wrong if you think it is of any benefit to the 'left' to do so as well.
I grew up in the east end of London in the 60's and 70's and went to a VERY mixed race shiithole of an all boys school.
I have no doubt that there are some complete fukcing morons and idealist ex-students with no idea about what living in "multicultural places" is really like, being responsible for putting a slant on everything and using positive discrimination - which is still discrimination.
I have seen, and been the victim of, stupid diversity rules which favour no-one really.
If you really think that all this anti-racial crap we all have to endure is a left/right thing, you are mistaken.
fwiw, I fully agree that racist black people should be pulled about it, I think the not mentioning things like Christmas in case it offends (which it never does) is as ridiculous as anyone else does. There is a lot of unfairness about.
You are all spectacularly wrong if you really think the reporting is being held back because it involves black people.
Just as wrong if you think it is of any benefit to the 'left' to do so as well.
And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
Is what you posted.
Doesn't matter about any other story.
'The left' haven't actually called YOU a racist for being appalled about anything, have they?
Go on, be honest.
Is what you posted.
Doesn't matter about any other story.
'The left' haven't actually called YOU a racist for being appalled about anything, have they?
Go on, be honest.
Would it help if we all stopped referring to "the left" and instead called them "pinkos"
What is it you dispute about Injera's post Studyform? The evidence is clear when you look at the reporting of the muslim child sex abuse gangs. Softly softly.
In America the young man who was killed in America was a robber who'd been taking drugs and witnesses corroborated the policeman's story that he had tried to force his way into the cops car and was fighting him for his gun. Said policeman had an exemplary record as well. Still there were the obligatory riots and looting.
In America the young man who was killed in America was a robber who'd been taking drugs and witnesses corroborated the policeman's story that he had tried to force his way into the cops car and was fighting him for his gun. Said policeman had an exemplary record as well. Still there were the obligatory riots and looting.
'The left' haven't actually called YOU a racist for being appalled about anything, have they?
Go on, be honest.
I'm always honest studyform. Yes they have.
Go on, be honest.
I'm always honest studyform. Yes they have.
I cannot, rob, believe that anyone isn't appalled by this crime; leftie, pinko or pansy.
I cannot believe that anyone is being called a racist for being appalled by this crime, as was and apparently still is, being claimed by EO.
And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
Is a stupid, argumentative and wrong statement to make.
This is all I'm really on here to point out.
But..... It is impossible to get eeternaloptimist to EVER admit being wrong.
I cannot believe that anyone is being called a racist for being appalled by this crime, as was and apparently still is, being claimed by EO.
And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
Is a stupid, argumentative and wrong statement to make.
This is all I'm really on here to point out.
But..... It is impossible to get eeternaloptimist to EVER admit being wrong.
Left and right could unite in their battle against the common enemy.... THe pinkos.
I often admit when I'm wrong Studyform. Given your obsession with this post you clearly think there is some traction to be gained from it. I assure you there isn't. My previous history of posting and discussing things with people on the left has ranged from civil, courteous and illuminating to inflamed, illogical and sometimes libellous. I made a prediction based on those previous dealings. I wouldn't expect to be denounced in those terms by learned people even if they disagree but unfortunately there are plenty of mud slinging toe rags on the left who seek to abuse people if they criticise a black person. It's as simple as that. I criticise black and white where I think it is deserved. Their colour isn't relevant. What they say or do is.
And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
Is wrong, you were wrong to post it, and its unquestionable meaning is wrong.
Because - NO-ONE will accuse you of being racist for being appalled at this grotesque crime and they haven't done, have they?
ergo; you're wrong.
your previous history has bog all to do with it. I once wrote some graffiti on a toilet wall but I don't keep referring back to it.
You wrote (said) And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
about this topic, on this thread and you are/were wrong weren't you?
Weren't you.
Your desire to be a keyboard politician (it's a really crap ambition) is making you not answer the question.
Is wrong, you were wrong to post it, and its unquestionable meaning is wrong.
Because - NO-ONE will accuse you of being racist for being appalled at this grotesque crime and they haven't done, have they?
ergo; you're wrong.
your previous history has bog all to do with it. I once wrote some graffiti on a toilet wall but I don't keep referring back to it.
You wrote (said) And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
about this topic, on this thread and you are/were wrong weren't you?
Weren't you.
Your desire to be a keyboard politician (it's a really crap ambition) is making you not answer the question.
Studyform
As I alluded to previously there are the decent left wingers and then those like you who I rip up into shiit paper. I ripped you up into shiit paper a few days ago dragging from you an assertion that you were far too busy to debate with me and that you would refraining from doing so in the future. Now you wrongly sniff you are in with a chance of salvaging your tattered honour you keep posting up my earlier comment whilst alla round su there are so many more interestin thigns we can be discussing. The point is I never shirk anything. Ever. And so:
You wrote (said) And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
about this topic, on this thread and you are/were wrong weren't you?
Are? Thus far. Were? Past tense. Who knows?
Enough of an answer for you?
As I alluded to previously there are the decent left wingers and then those like you who I rip up into shiit paper. I ripped you up into shiit paper a few days ago dragging from you an assertion that you were far too busy to debate with me and that you would refraining from doing so in the future. Now you wrongly sniff you are in with a chance of salvaging your tattered honour you keep posting up my earlier comment whilst alla round su there are so many more interestin thigns we can be discussing. The point is I never shirk anything. Ever. And so:
You wrote (said) And of course the left will accuse us of being racist because we are appalled at this grotesque crime.
about this topic, on this thread and you are/were wrong weren't you?
Are? Thus far. Were? Past tense. Who knows?
Enough of an answer for you?
So now I've answered this clearly burning issue for you perhaps you will do me the courtesy of addressing this issue:
Why have the left and the BBC been so comparatively quiet about muslim child abuse gangs?
Why have the left and the BBC been so comparatively quiet about muslim child abuse gangs?
scandanavian_haven
07 Dec 14 02:50
I would say anyone that partakes in what is best described as sadistic rituals, is insane. That's where they should be, in institutions, where they can be rehabilitated away from their main influences which is usually the man of the family.
The unfortunate thing about London is that there are too many people, so if you suffer from mental health issues, I would imagine that compounds the problem.
If you had read my very long post on the politics forum, you'd have seen how many 'insane' people live in the forum's favourite London Borough, Newham.
Let them in and accept their culture, that's what Blair and Brown wanted.
And also how all hospitals In Newham have been closed down since the 1970s, to be replaced with just one monstrosity for 310,000 people, with just one exception, East Ham Memorial Hospital.
It used to be a general hospital with an A&E dept, it's now a 'nuthouse' and every bed is spoken for.
Fact seems shocked that 300 African boys have gone missing. It just shows what some of you know about life in London, which isn't much.
10 years ago the body of a black child was found in the bushes just outside the gates of the cemetery in Grange Road in Plaistow. The story goes that a council road sweeper saw something glistening in the sunlight and went to look, it was allegedly blood.
My barber told me, his shop was two doors from the gates. It was cordoned off for a while and costing him business as that was where most people parked.
To the best of my memory it never appeared in the local rag, The Newham Recorder, it never got on to BBC news, and there was definitely no black and yellow 'Incident - Help Required' board put outside the cemetery gates by the police.
07 Dec 14 02:50
I would say anyone that partakes in what is best described as sadistic rituals, is insane. That's where they should be, in institutions, where they can be rehabilitated away from their main influences which is usually the man of the family.
The unfortunate thing about London is that there are too many people, so if you suffer from mental health issues, I would imagine that compounds the problem.
If you had read my very long post on the politics forum, you'd have seen how many 'insane' people live in the forum's favourite London Borough, Newham.
Let them in and accept their culture, that's what Blair and Brown wanted.
And also how all hospitals In Newham have been closed down since the 1970s, to be replaced with just one monstrosity for 310,000 people, with just one exception, East Ham Memorial Hospital.
It used to be a general hospital with an A&E dept, it's now a 'nuthouse' and every bed is spoken for.
Fact seems shocked that 300 African boys have gone missing. It just shows what some of you know about life in London, which isn't much.
10 years ago the body of a black child was found in the bushes just outside the gates of the cemetery in Grange Road in Plaistow. The story goes that a council road sweeper saw something glistening in the sunlight and went to look, it was allegedly blood.
My barber told me, his shop was two doors from the gates. It was cordoned off for a while and costing him business as that was where most people parked.
To the best of my memory it never appeared in the local rag, The Newham Recorder, it never got on to BBC news, and there was definitely no black and yellow 'Incident - Help Required' board put outside the cemetery gates by the police.
EO, you are seriously a nutjob.
You've never ripped anybody into anything
You really do think people scuttle away in fear of your rebuttals don't you?
As I told you before, I just get bored with you.
I feel my honour is quite intact, thanks all the same.
You've never ripped anybody into anything
You really do think people scuttle away in fear of your rebuttals don't you?
As I told you before, I just get bored with you.
I feel my honour is quite intact, thanks all the same.
Some people do Studyform. Some are more than happy to get stuck in. After you've finished dancing perhaps you'll do me the courtesy of addressing my question?
CMAT. I can't see what your last lost is about (the lat part of it, starting at "10 years ago....". 
Was there a body and, if so, was it the result of some sort of violent attack?
Was there a body and, if so, was it the result of some sort of violent attack?
I've just switched to the Beta forum, and I can read my post perfectly well there, and have now come back to the Classic forum, where it remains in full view.
It's not that I can't SEE it. It's more a matter of confusion.
10 years ago the body of a black child was found. It then fades into 'if', 'maybe' and 'the story goes'.
But then you say that there was no further action on the matter. It is not so unusual for women/girls to hide a pregnancy...even to the point of hiding a birth. That could well have been the end of the story. It doesn't have to be, and probably wasn't, some sort of ritualistic event.
10 years ago the body of a black child was found. It then fades into 'if', 'maybe' and 'the story goes'.
But then you say that there was no further action on the matter. It is not so unusual for women/girls to hide a pregnancy...even to the point of hiding a birth. That could well have been the end of the story. It doesn't have to be, and probably wasn't, some sort of ritualistic event.
You miss the point.
Because of my record on here, if I had said that I actually saw the 'commotion', the road sweeper and the blood, I'd be called a liar and a racist because the child was black, as it never made the local press.
I never saw the cordoning off as I was at work, my barber saw it. He had no reason to lie.
But I did pass the cemetery at least twice a day and there was definitely no 'Police Incident' board outside. I have no idea why not.
Perhaps it was run of the mill news that month.
I'd guess that was about the same time that an older African boy was drowned in a bath on Christmas Day in Newham, for having 'witchcraft' in him, but that case made the papers.
As for the murdered African boy in Scotland, I couldn't find it on the Guardian website, but they do have another whole page devoted to knocking Farage, which must please their readers a lot.
Because of my record on here, if I had said that I actually saw the 'commotion', the road sweeper and the blood, I'd be called a liar and a racist because the child was black, as it never made the local press.
I never saw the cordoning off as I was at work, my barber saw it. He had no reason to lie.
But I did pass the cemetery at least twice a day and there was definitely no 'Police Incident' board outside. I have no idea why not.
Perhaps it was run of the mill news that month.
I'd guess that was about the same time that an older African boy was drowned in a bath on Christmas Day in Newham, for having 'witchcraft' in him, but that case made the papers.
As for the murdered African boy in Scotland, I couldn't find it on the Guardian website, but they do have another whole page devoted to knocking Farage, which must please their readers a lot.
We're (actually, I'M) not disputing or querying that it was cordoned-off. I think that one of the pivotal pieces of information would be the age of the child. Without knowing that, everything is just conjecture.
Dec 7, 2014 -- 9:31PM, Eeternaloptimist wrote:
So now I've answered this clearly burning issue for you perhaps you will do me the courtesy of addressing this issue:Why have the left and the BBC been so comparatively quiet about muslim child abuse gangs?
Addressing your question:
I don't know, perhaps they were all at the 'Leftie Centre' discussing ways to hide all Asian and black crimes from the "normals".
It's as if you think; a) This really happens, b) I've been defending it in some way (I haven't), and c) It has anything whatsoever to do with the subject of this thread.
If I can address this in reverse I'd say it has quite a lot to do with this thread because not only does it seem as if there is a virtual voluntary D Notice on a lot of these cases but both this one and those go to the heart of the question of multiculturalism. Different cultures do things differently. In relation to your second point I haven't said that you are defending it. What I am saying is that people like you seem determined not to discuss it or the wider cultural implications. Finally in relation to your first point I'm not clear what your "this" relates to. I don't know why it happens. The evidence for the fact that not reporting and under reporting on such cases does happen and is incontrovertible.
See? This is why I (and I'm quite sure others) won't engage with you on here.
You post something stupid - which you did. Then you turn everything round to the same old, same old.
Then you never stop.
This thread wasn't anything to do with left/right it was about a woman, an African woman, who murdered her son.
Everyone without exception, as far as I can tell, is appalled by this, despite your assertion that they would merely be accusing 'you' of being racist.
But everything in your world is either very good, or the left.
As for "people like me" being determined blah blah etc etc,. People like me have better things to do with their free time than to do pointless battle with you.
You post something stupid - which you did. Then you turn everything round to the same old, same old.
Then you never stop.
This thread wasn't anything to do with left/right it was about a woman, an African woman, who murdered her son.
Everyone without exception, as far as I can tell, is appalled by this, despite your assertion that they would merely be accusing 'you' of being racist.
But everything in your world is either very good, or the left.
As for "people like me" being determined blah blah etc etc,. People like me have better things to do with their free time than to do pointless battle with you.
You haven't got time to comment on the cultural aspect which goes to the heart of my point but you will bicker till the cows come home.
The problem is the multiculturists cannot answer the questions. Their dream is in tatters and they struggle to defend it but defend it they must.
No they mustn't Moisty. That's the point. Morally they must but they have no morals so all you will hear is a big fat nothing. Multiculturalism means allowing for things which we may find abhorrent because expressing outrage is a form of cultural imperialism and so the issues don't get reported on and don't get discussed and the glorious mutliculturalist bandwagon rolls on.
Multiracial? If we must. Multicultural? No.
Multiracial? If we must. Multicultural? No.
The Somalis who were in court last week in Bristol:
one of them gave the defence that it was Somali culture to have sex with each others girlfriends.
The age of the girls seemed to be irrelevant to him and his co-defendants.
Still, the luvvies welcome them here, so that's okay.
one of them gave the defence that it was Somali culture to have sex with each others girlfriends.
The age of the girls seemed to be irrelevant to him and his co-defendants.
Still, the luvvies welcome them here, so that's okay.
Todays headline stories, from midnight last night, on the Guardian website
.
http://www.theguardian.com/global/all
I put 'Alva' and then 'Clackmannanshire' into the Guardian search box (separately)
Still no word on the African boys murder.
It has also vanished from the BBC television news pages, where regional news hardly ever changes overnight.
.
http://www.theguardian.com/global/all
I put 'Alva' and then 'Clackmannanshire' into the Guardian search box (separately)
Still no word on the African boys murder.
It has also vanished from the BBC television news pages, where regional news hardly ever changes overnight.
Fantastic stuff 
I suppose the multiculturalists all use a room off of the main hall in the Leftie Centre.
I'm assuming I'm considered now, to be a 'multiculturist' as well as a leftie. Though I have, am not, and have never claimed to be either.
FYI EO - I'm not affiliated to any political group or ideal, I just loathe the Conservatives.
As for being a multiculturist..... I don't even know what that means.
I will reiterate however that this thread, as far as I and most rightly indignant people are concerned, is about the abhorrent crime perpetrated upon a young child and I couldn't give a flying fluck if the woman involved was from Mars. The cultural aspect, as you quaintly put it, is as far as I am concerned, of no consequence. I would be as appalled, as would most people, whatever the ethnicity of those involved.
You really need to stop looking at everything as a political discussion or a reason to chuck a few "left and lefties" about.
I suppose the multiculturalists all use a room off of the main hall in the Leftie Centre.
I'm assuming I'm considered now, to be a 'multiculturist' as well as a leftie. Though I have, am not, and have never claimed to be either.
FYI EO - I'm not affiliated to any political group or ideal, I just loathe the Conservatives.
As for being a multiculturist..... I don't even know what that means.
I will reiterate however that this thread, as far as I and most rightly indignant people are concerned, is about the abhorrent crime perpetrated upon a young child and I couldn't give a flying fluck if the woman involved was from Mars. The cultural aspect, as you quaintly put it, is as far as I am concerned, of no consequence. I would be as appalled, as would most people, whatever the ethnicity of those involved.
You really need to stop looking at everything as a political discussion or a reason to chuck a few "left and lefties" about.
You'll have to excuse my tremulous state studyform. You see outside of an episode of Tales Of The Unexpected where Suzanne Daniel got her truppenies out I wasn't aware cutting out someone's heart was something which went on in this country. Now I find it does. Like I said I find it very sad that any mother would kill their child but to cut out their heart?
Then as Taxi points out we find it isn't a newsworthy event. That's incredibly puzzling.
Then as Taxi points out we find it isn't a newsworthy event. That's incredibly puzzling.
I wouldn't say so but either way you need to lighten up or come out swinging. Acting like Bambi in the road is just going to get you squashed.
Ground breaking news on the Guardian site yesterday
UKIP man denies harrassment claims - 917 comments
Tesco shares plunge to 14 year low - 498 comments
'Weather bomb' warning for UK - 283 comments
Ebola survivor sdlams Band Aid - 264 comments
Labour targets Tory reigning men - 132 comments
act now on global warming - 48 comments
'Scottish murder' - nothing there.
'Clackmannanshire murder' - nothing there
'Alva murder' - nothing there
UKIP man denies harrassment claims - 917 comments
Tesco shares plunge to 14 year low - 498 comments
'Weather bomb' warning for UK - 283 comments
Ebola survivor sdlams Band Aid - 264 comments
Labour targets Tory reigning men - 132 comments
act now on global warming - 48 comments
'Scottish murder' - nothing there.
'Clackmannanshire murder' - nothing there
'Alva murder' - nothing there
How can you comment on news that isn't on the website?
Sorry. My misunderstanding. I thought you were checking for comments. So, you mean that it wasn't reported. Hmmm. Strange.
Although I must admit that I've only heard about it on this thread. I don't get a newspaper.
Although I must admit that I've only heard about it on this thread. I don't get a newspaper.
Tommy Toes • December 7, 2014 12:53 AM GMT
Not interested in the politics, to me the main point of the story shows just how horrific women can be.
So many reported cases just lately of women killing their children.
Yet they are the 'fairer sex'.
As if.
Horrible creatures.
I agree with you Tommy Toes
there has been an alarming increase in the number of women killing their own children
you see no loving mother, could do this to her child
Not all females do this thank God, I am sure those on here are all loving mothers
most are
But this problem is being deliberately hidden, because men get the blame for everything in todays society
but questions need to be asked shy?
Not interested in the politics, to me the main point of the story shows just how horrific women can be.
So many reported cases just lately of women killing their children.
Yet they are the 'fairer sex'.
As if.
Horrible creatures.
I agree with you Tommy Toes
there has been an alarming increase in the number of women killing their own children
you see no loving mother, could do this to her child
Not all females do this thank God, I am sure those on here are all loving mothers
most are
But this problem is being deliberately hidden, because men get the blame for everything in todays society
but questions need to be asked shy?
naydam 10 Dec 14 01:52
Sorry. My misunderstanding. I thought you were checking for comments. So, you mean that it wasn't reported. Hmmm. Strange. Although I must admit that I've only heard about it on this thread. I don't get a newspaper.
And for at least the 100th time, neither do I.
It was on the BBC television news pages, where I get all my news from, then venture on to the internet, as it's the BBC, to see what hasn't been reported about it.
Like the 'rape' or 'serious sexual assault' (take your pick) in Tower Hamlets over the weekend. The BBC made no mention of the rapists ethnicity, given the area, it was well odds-on that he was black or asian. Other inline reports stated he was black.
The Alva case wasn't a 'murder' on the BBC, it was a 'death'. No mention of how the child died. No mention of the mother, while ALL other news sources at the time said she was African and he had his heart cut out.
This was after my first post on page 1.
It was removed from Main Headlines after about 4 hours and tagged on to the 'Tay and Central' regional news page in Scotland.
It stayed on there for about hours and was then removed altogether.
The antics of Nigel Farage and his crew are much more important to the BBC agenda of slagging UKIP off, he has had different 3 stories in 3 days on the BBC, which not only got on the Main News page, but also got scattered over various regional news pages as well for good measure.
While a 'witchcraft' murder gets hardly any coverage by the BBC, and none at all by The Guardian.
Sorry. My misunderstanding. I thought you were checking for comments. So, you mean that it wasn't reported. Hmmm. Strange. Although I must admit that I've only heard about it on this thread. I don't get a newspaper.
And for at least the 100th time, neither do I.
It was on the BBC television news pages, where I get all my news from, then venture on to the internet, as it's the BBC, to see what hasn't been reported about it.
Like the 'rape' or 'serious sexual assault' (take your pick) in Tower Hamlets over the weekend. The BBC made no mention of the rapists ethnicity, given the area, it was well odds-on that he was black or asian. Other inline reports stated he was black.
The Alva case wasn't a 'murder' on the BBC, it was a 'death'. No mention of how the child died. No mention of the mother, while ALL other news sources at the time said she was African and he had his heart cut out.
This was after my first post on page 1.
It was removed from Main Headlines after about 4 hours and tagged on to the 'Tay and Central' regional news page in Scotland.
It stayed on there for about hours and was then removed altogether.
The antics of Nigel Farage and his crew are much more important to the BBC agenda of slagging UKIP off, he has had different 3 stories in 3 days on the BBC, which not only got on the Main News page, but also got scattered over various regional news pages as well for good measure.
While a 'witchcraft' murder gets hardly any coverage by the BBC, and none at all by The Guardian.
Maybe they have decided it is too disturbing a news item to give it major prominence.
They do not give the nationality of the woman as the Police are not looking for anyone in connection with the crime.
They have her in custody.
They do not give the nationality of the woman as the Police are not looking for anyone in connection with the crime.
They have her in custody.
I read mother from Boswana. Anything on BBC about the black doctor from York using camera tech on the streets to look up women's skirts ?
Of course not.
There's no black crime on the BBC if they can dodge reporting on it.
And iirc the BBC gave no time at all to the 'German' doctor, Daniel Urbani, who killed a patient not far from here with an overdose of 10 times the normal dosage.
There's no black crime on the BBC if they can dodge reporting on it.
And iirc the BBC gave no time at all to the 'German' doctor, Daniel Urbani, who killed a patient not far from here with an overdose of 10 times the normal dosage.
Who could have conceivably imagined, even 10 years ago, that we'd apparently be living in a country where the media and politicians are evidently sufficiently relaxed about this monstrous crime to give it so little spotlight?
For my money it's a far greater atrocity than several other tragic cases which have been given saturation press coverage in recent years. The names Bulger, McCann and 'Baby P' string to mind.
What on earth is going on ?
For my money it's a far greater atrocity than several other tragic cases which have been given saturation press coverage in recent years. The names Bulger, McCann and 'Baby P' string to mind.
What on earth is going on ?
There's no black crime on the BBC if they can dodge reporting on it.
A man who dragged a woman to an area next to derelict pub and raped her after she got off a night bus in east London is wanted by the police.
The woman was walking on Duff Street, Tower Hamlets, at about 04:25 GMT on Thursday after getting off the N15 bus following a night out with friends.
The Met said she was grabbed from behind and dragged to a waste ground next to the former African Queen pub.
The man then sexually assaulted her before stealing her money.
Her calls for help were heard by some residents and police were called but the man had already run off towards East India Dock Road when officers arrived.
'Brazenly ignored warnings'
The suspect is described as a black man in his 20s who was wearing a hooded top.
The victim, who is also in her 20s, is receiving support from trained officers.
Det Sgt Ian Valentine said: "This was a particularly violent attack, with the suspect brazenly ignoring warnings from local residents that police were being called and continuing with the assault.
"Thankfully incidents of this nature are extremely rare and we are conducting numerous inquiries to trace the suspect.
"Extra patrols have also been put in place in the area to provide reassurance."
Anyone with information is being urged to contact police.
______________
A man who dragged a woman to an area next to derelict pub and raped her after she got off a night bus in east London is wanted by the police.
The woman was walking on Duff Street, Tower Hamlets, at about 04:25 GMT on Thursday after getting off the N15 bus following a night out with friends.
The Met said she was grabbed from behind and dragged to a waste ground next to the former African Queen pub.
The man then sexually assaulted her before stealing her money.
Her calls for help were heard by some residents and police were called but the man had already run off towards East India Dock Road when officers arrived.
'Brazenly ignored warnings'
The suspect is described as a black man in his 20s who was wearing a hooded top.
The victim, who is also in her 20s, is receiving support from trained officers.
Det Sgt Ian Valentine said: "This was a particularly violent attack, with the suspect brazenly ignoring warnings from local residents that police were being called and continuing with the assault.
"Thankfully incidents of this nature are extremely rare and we are conducting numerous inquiries to trace the suspect.
"Extra patrols have also been put in place in the area to provide reassurance."
Anyone with information is being urged to contact police.
______________
I suppose the facts of this event (Alva) will come to light after the case has been to court. But I can't help thinking that it might be gross exaggeration by the early press reports. I guess time will tell.
To be honest, there's so much Black crime of a similar nature in certain areas of London, that it is impossible to report it all. It would need it's own dedicated programme.
scandanavian_haven
10 Dec 14 16:20
There's no black crime on the BBC if they can dodge reporting on it.
Unlucky.
Try reading the whole thread in future.
All my posts concerning the BBC relate to BBC television news pages, not the BBC internet pages.
Better luck next time.
10 Dec 14 16:20
There's no black crime on the BBC if they can dodge reporting on it.
Unlucky.
Try reading the whole thread in future.
All my posts concerning the BBC relate to BBC television news pages, not the BBC internet pages.
Better luck next time.
naydam 10 Dec 14 19:25
To be honest, there's so much Black crime of a similar nature in certain areas of London, that it is impossible to report it all. It would need it's own dedicated programme.
They should have a regional crime only news programme for 4 different areas for 15 minutes each every Friday night.
WEEK 1
Programme 1 from Chester
Programme 2 from Ascot
Programme 3 from Tower Hamlets
Programme 4 from Newham
Compare 1 and 2 with 3 or 4 and see the differences.
To be honest, there's so much Black crime of a similar nature in certain areas of London, that it is impossible to report it all. It would need it's own dedicated programme.
They should have a regional crime only news programme for 4 different areas for 15 minutes each every Friday night.
WEEK 1
Programme 1 from Chester
Programme 2 from Ascot
Programme 3 from Tower Hamlets
Programme 4 from Newham
Compare 1 and 2 with 3 or 4 and see the differences.
Curzon Park pensioner ordered to pay after cutting neighbour's telephone line
CURZON PARK 08-12-2014
David Haslewood given conditional discharge and ordered to pay compensation for the criminal damage in Curzon Park South
Cheshire Police
Chester city centre assault leaves man in critical condition
CRIME 07-12-2014
Victim collapsed near Deja Vu nightclub in Frodsham Street during early hours of Saturday
Robert Brown has been sentenced to seven years in prison for child sexual exploitation offences
Northwich teenager jailed for child sex offences
NORTHWICH 06-12-2014
Robert Brown sentenced to seven years in prison
Police are appealing for information after Elton Post Office was robbed
Police appeal following Elton Post Office robbery
ELTON 04-12-2014
Man threatened staff before stealing cash
Chester man alleges his child abuse claims were ignored for more than a decade
CHESTER 03-12-2014
Des Frost speaks out as care home owner John Allen is jailed for life for two decades of sex attacks
Breaking News
Public's help needed in Winsford sex assault investigation
WINSFORD 02-12-2014
Incident happened during the summer
CURZON PARK 08-12-2014
David Haslewood given conditional discharge and ordered to pay compensation for the criminal damage in Curzon Park South
Cheshire Police
Chester city centre assault leaves man in critical condition
CRIME 07-12-2014
Victim collapsed near Deja Vu nightclub in Frodsham Street during early hours of Saturday
Robert Brown has been sentenced to seven years in prison for child sexual exploitation offences
Northwich teenager jailed for child sex offences
NORTHWICH 06-12-2014
Robert Brown sentenced to seven years in prison
Police are appealing for information after Elton Post Office was robbed
Police appeal following Elton Post Office robbery
ELTON 04-12-2014
Man threatened staff before stealing cash
Chester man alleges his child abuse claims were ignored for more than a decade
CHESTER 03-12-2014
Des Frost speaks out as care home owner John Allen is jailed for life for two decades of sex attacks
Breaking News
Public's help needed in Winsford sex assault investigation
WINSFORD 02-12-2014
Incident happened during the summer
No wonder Chester's leading lights feel safer in Africa.
All my posts concerning the BBC relate to BBC television news pages, not the BBC internet pages.
They are reporting on black crime with a world wide audience, bbc website being one of the most frequented internet websites in the world so your point is irrelevant, cherry picking is your strongpoint cmat
They are reporting on black crime with a world wide audience, bbc website being one of the most frequented internet websites in the world so your point is irrelevant, cherry picking is your strongpoint cmat
I now see you trying to wriggle out of your error.
Every post I make about the BBC only concerns BBC television news pages.
I don't buy newspapers, so the news is sitting there ready to pick over. I don't have to wait for a news iten to ocme up, I can choose any region I like, but I read them all, every day.
When I find something I wish to know more about, I then go on the internet.
There are more houses with televisions than there are with computers. So more people see the news rather than surf for news.
It they don't read it on telly or surf for news, they probably buy newspapers.
The BBC don't print newspapers.
Every post I make about the BBC only concerns BBC television news pages.
I don't buy newspapers, so the news is sitting there ready to pick over. I don't have to wait for a news iten to ocme up, I can choose any region I like, but I read them all, every day.
When I find something I wish to know more about, I then go on the internet.
There are more houses with televisions than there are with computers. So more people see the news rather than surf for news.
It they don't read it on telly or surf for news, they probably buy newspapers.
The BBC don't print newspapers.
Are you living in the stone age, most people are hooked up to the internet these days.
They mention suspects are black plenty of times on TV.
They mention suspects are black plenty of times on TV.
Are you paying attention?
How can I be in the stone age if I have a computer?
You think more people surf for news than watch the news or read newspapers? If all the news is on the net, why do millions of papers get sold each day?
Why does the Guardian have what I'm told is a poor sales record?
How can I be in the stone age if I have a computer?
You think more people surf for news than watch the news or read newspapers? If all the news is on the net, why do millions of papers get sold each day?
Why does the Guardian have what I'm told is a poor sales record?
You're missing the point, there website is read by millions, millions will see a report giving a description of a black person carrying out a crime, apparently that's still not good enough, going on about tv not reporting suspects description is an exaggeration because I have seen plenty of reports on the contrary. You're imagining it all, call me a cherry picker
Cherry picker.
The Newham Recorder prints all crime, but the luvvies hate the paper.
The Newham Recorder prints all crime, but the luvvies hate the paper.
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