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Everyone in the sport knows this (or at least has suspected as much). A bit like cycling in the 90's and 00's. Seb Coe as a massive job to do if he wins the IAAF presidency to claw back the credibility with the general sporting public. Nobody believes what they are seeing any more. Rumours that doping is rife in Kenya amongst distance runners have been doing the rounds for several years too.
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The Irish champion was arrested half way around the "Tour de France" for dope peddling
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Of course what this story points out is if all the Russians are doping and not getting caught then the anti-doping program is useless - bringing all athletes under suspicion - there's no reason to believe anyone we see is clean.
All top sportsmen and women are doping - Russian or not. |
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Lift the ban and let them take what they want and we can all look forward to the first sub minute mile.
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With the huge amounts of money at stake in all professional sports these days all sports must have a doping problem. We like to think that it always Johnny Foreigner who is doping and not our beloved sports people but common sense tells you otherwise. Common sense also tells you to wonder about football with the enormous fortunes to be had for success. How much is up for grabs for the winner of the Champions League?
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Rugby players have become much bigger stronger and faster lately.
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I disagree with the rugby players
. http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1291592952/714/4427714.jpg |
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The first person to know that Marion Jones was on drugs
was probably Ekaterini Thanou |
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why no inquiry Jamaica
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Greeks were at it for a long while too, Darren Campbell robbed off 200m gold in Sydnet by a Greek journeyman athlete who later staged a fake motorbike crash to avoid a doping test
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staged a fake motorbike crash to avoid a doping test
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why no inquiry Jamaica
There was a WADA audit a year ago. Not much was made public, but it did lead to the entire Jamaican anti-doping board resigning. |
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staged a fake motorbike crash to avoid a doping test
yes and the other one on the bike was Ekaterini Thanou |
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Not like it's a new thing. The 1980 Olympic final medal table is so appallingly bent, it's quite funny. (NB, the Americans weren't there, but USSR and East Germany having 10x as many golds as the third place country - Bulgaria!!! - is beyond parody).
Rank Nation Gold Silver Bronze Total 1 Soviet Union (URS) 80 69 46 195 2 East Germany (GDR) 47 37 42 126 3 Bulgaria (BUL) 8 16 17 41 4 Cuba (CUB) 8 7 5 20 5 Italy (ITA) 8 3 4 15 6 Hungary (HUN) 7 10 15 32 7 Romania (ROU) 6 6 13 25 8 France (FRA) 6 5 3 14 9 Great Britain (GBR) 5 7 9 21 10 Poland (POL) 3 14 15 32 |
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There was a WADA audit a year ago. Not much was made public, but it did lead to the entire Jamaican anti-doping board resigning.
Strange how some sports and countries seem to be able to keep things under the radar. |
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As an athletics fan for many, many years, the thing that irritates me is that it's very easy to sling sh1t at that sport
regarding drugs because they do catch and ban high profile athletes, as they also do in cycling, when other sports where drugs would clearly be beneficial, like football, rugby, cricket and tennis hardly get a mention. |
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Drugs in football and tennis are no where near as beneficial as they are in Athletics
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I don't see why not. A footballer can run 10K during a match and a 5 set tennis match can last 3 or 4 hours
with recovery needed for the next match within a day or so. Why wouldn't EPO or HGH or even steroids be beneficial ? |
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There's no doubt in my mind that doping is rife in football and tennis - and that the game's biggest stars are all at it. Everyone's making too much money to do anything about it and noone really cares.
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Ah, I see - strength and fitness aren't significant factors in tennis and football.
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They, unlike Cycling and Sprinting, is not literally the be all and end all, good training and recovery techniques suffice - they have plenty of drugs tests in football and even turn up to training and homes unannounced to take the tests - and pretty much they only really find in their systems the use of recreational non performance enhancing stimulants.
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The demands of Grand Slam tennis tournaments are exactly the same demands placed upon cyclists by the Tour de France. In fact, anabolic steroids and blood doping may as well have been invented for tennis players.
The purpose of steroids is not so much to ensure outstanding and outlying one-off performances, but to enable the taker to train longer and harder than the non-taker, thus making such performances more likely. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that two current top-ten players owe their fortunes to the use of PEDs, and that football clubs, cyclists and various other of their countrymen have been involved in systematic drug misuse for decades. It's all very well trying to right the historical wrongs of long-forgotten Olympiads and pointing the blame at reds under the bed or black bogeymen, but it's happening here, in Europe, America, everywhere. |
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If tennis and football were predominately down to skill you'd get top players playing into their forties. Fact is you don't because they no longer have the necessary speed, strength and stamina.
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Scandinavian Haven.
I would refer you to Operation Puerto. Although only cyclists' were named Dr Fuentes admitted treating people from other sports including tennis and football. Former cyclist Jesús Manzano told reporters from France 3 that he had seen "well-known footballers" from La Liga visit the offices of Dr Fuentes. President of FIFA Sepp Blatter, at a World Anti-Doping Agency meeting in Montreal, was reportedly interested in the contents "of the Puerto file". Le Monde had reported in December 2006 that they had possession of documents of Fuentes detailing "seasonal preparation plans" for Spanish football clubs FC Barcelona and Real Madrid. These plans did not specifically name any players. |
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Joey Barton has never been tested properly because he is cack
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The Germans have no business pointing the figure.
.http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/report-by-team-doctor-suggests-blood-doping-in-german-football-league-a-919563.html Their uncanny success had often been put down to German efficiency but there's probably a more likely reason. |
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I imgin the temptation for a footballer at a mid level championship team to dope to improve their performance to get a move to the Premier League is very real indeed. You are talking about going from £5k a week to £20k a week. Or even to help recover from injury. If you are 28, in League 1 or 2 coming to the end of your contract and injured, you have to prospect of being released, with no job and little hope of getting one.
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Womens athletics record books riddled with dodgy world records from eras gone ,even with faster modern tracks they are not getting close .
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You have to have the resources to buy the best doping regime though. The doping doctors won't let their product go cheap or let just anyone have it - they need to keep it exclusive to increase the value.
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I can understand that, but I'm talking about individuals looking to improve their speed & physique, not necessarily organised doping. You can even get steroids in prison!
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You have to have the resources to buy the best doping regime though
Which sport has more money than football. |
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None - that's why doping is probably rife.
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.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/11282513/Top-British-athletics-star-accused-of-doping-by-German-documentary.html
A top Brit now implicated - but can't be named. |
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Jed who r these 2 top 10 players please?
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a top female tennis player who suddenly retired a few years ago had tested positive for a banned substance. Her first name begins with a J
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the other 1% full sex change
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The one which people should be concerned about is boxing. Not because it will be any more rife but because of the possible ramifications. In most other sports you risk beating your opponent not killing them.
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The truth is every sport has had to be dragged kickign and screaming to firstly admit it has a doping problem and then, belatedly, to actually do something about it. Its reached the point where you can almost feel a twinge of sympathy for pro cyclists now, handy whipping boys when other sports are just as dirty. Funny as someone alluded to, the identities of all the cyclists from Operation Puerto were named while all the other athletes - half of barca and real madrid among them probably - remained anonymous and reportedly had their files destroyed.
Leading the hall of shame is tennis, which not only spent years prevaricating about PEDs but practically allowed players to take whatever they liked without fear of sanction. I recall a case a few years ago when a tournament press officer berated journalists for asking a female tennis star about a dope test she'd just failed. Needless to say she got no ban or fine. And i agree with the previous poster, the prospect of drugs and boxing is a scary one indeed. I'd be curious to know too what the testing procedures are like in Formula One racing |
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It is believed that the names of the footballers and tennis players involved in Operation Puerto will be revealed when DR Fuentes plays his ace and writes the book.
Rugby has also become scary and the authorities are now very concerned about the life threatening injuries because the players are so big, strong and fast now. |