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I have so much personal, and upsetting events, that are too much to post in one go.....
Back many years, at Grammar School, I had a bad accident in the gym!
Taken by emergency ambulance to hospital, where they plugged up my nostrils with a metre of bandage to each one, and then sent me home
on the bus with a tooth hanging on a thread,
No advice given and we weren't living in the world of compensation so, to this day, I still have a dead tooth that my dentist says is remarkable!
Much more harrowing experiences to tell!
Back many years, at Grammar School, I had a bad accident in the gym!
Taken by emergency ambulance to hospital, where they plugged up my nostrils with a metre of bandage to each one, and then sent me home
on the bus with a tooth hanging on a thread,
No advice given and we weren't living in the world of compensation so, to this day, I still have a dead tooth that my dentist says is remarkable!
Much more harrowing experiences to tell!
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wonderful memories for me, the nurses home in Burton was truly an education
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Photos please B-B
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bloody hell AP it was in '81
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Watercolours then?
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my bristles were too stiff
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My daughter has had to be admitted to hospital three times in the last 6 months, battling with ulcerative colitis. I can't praise the consultants,doctors,nurses and ancillary staff enough. Nurses in particular have a very tough job ( to say the least). You have to have a vocation to do their job, because it seemed hellish to me. They are overworked and understaffed. They deserve much more than the pittance they're paid. We are very lucky to have the NHS. And we nee to do whatever is necessary to keep it out of private hands !
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North Durham Uni Hosp ,went for ultra sound scan appointment 10 am out all done 10.10
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So...not pregnant then?
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All true Facts but that doesn't make the nurses all saints.
I was in hospital with kidney stones and at one point started fitting. The nurse was yammering away to her mate at the staff desk barely 10 yards away and after a couple of minutes (I was later informed) was alerted only by a patient in the bed next to mine. |
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how much money do you want to pay if you get seriously ill.... i don't have a quarter of a million.
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They deserve much more than the pittance they're paid.
You obviously have no knowledge of NHS Pay Scales. Irrespective of pay the main thing missing from the NHS is 'care' from what I can see. Also, far too much money wasted on ineffective treatments, drugs etc etc. which have little or no chance of working. Keeping people alive at any cost doesn't in many cases mean they are actually living especially with Older People. |
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Starting salary for a registered nurse is c £21,000.
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rogerthebutler 01 Dec 14 17:44
All true Facts but that doesn't make the nurses all saints. I was in hospital with kidney stones and at one point started fitting. The nurse was yammering away to her mate at the staff desk barely 10 yards away and after a couple of minutes (I was later informed) was alerted only by a patient in the bed next to mine. Yep, I've been in hospital for three operations, and overall my experience was a very positive one regarding the care and attention I received. Sure there were times when you felt you were being neglected/ignored or forgotten. Until,you realise there are only so many nurses covering a number of bays, each having 8 pr more beds, containing people who all need care, or varying degrees. They can't have attention on everyone at the same time.mistakes will happen, they are stretched with too much too do, and not enough staff to do it. |
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Facts
That £21,000 goes up to £28,000 without any further career development and there are many extras for evening, night and weekend work which aren't available to comparable jobs lik fire and police and both of the latter work a standard 42 hour week as opposed to 5 hours elss for nurses. There was a time when nursing was the poor relation. Not any more. |
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Not to mention some 'Privately' owned Paramedic Teams these days (sometimes inadaquately trained) ........just saying. Can't blame the NHS for that!
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Don't get me wrong I'm proud of the NHS and when I hear some Americans decry universal free healthcare it turns my stomach.
It's just it's not this big sacred cow and they are not all selfless angels on the frontline. |
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No they are not roger. I was old school, trained on the wards and that is where the training should have stayed. If you're too proud or think yourself too good to feed someone, give them a drink, wash them if they need it, turn them in bed to stop them getting pressure sores then you are in the wrong job and some nurses are in the wrong job. Simple as that. There are also a lot of good ones still.
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Burton-Brewers 01 Dec 14 16:24
wonderful memories for me, the nurses home in Burton was truly an education So was the one at St James, Plumstead. |
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Dealing with ill, often abusive,ungrateful patients, cleaning up and clearing up, faeces,urine,vomit and blood.Constantly
at the beck and call of everyone. Administering the right drugs,in the correct dose at the right time to the right patients. Dealing with visitors,family and friends. Physically man handling patients in and out of beds and constant administration.A 24 x. 7 balancing act, in dealing with often frightened people in an alien environment, from the minor ailment and short stay patients, to the more seriously I'll. and often faced with dealing with the death of people under your care. I wouldn't have their job for twice the money. |
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A few years ago despite every test in the book I had a rare life threatening tumour that had been missed. Only because I insisted on another scan was it diagnosed and operated on. Despite that I have nowt but praise and admiration for the whole lot of them,from consultants down to nursing assistants they are caring, attentive, cheerful, considerate,dedicated...amazing people on the whole ,who put most of us to shame.
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A few years ago despite every test in the book I had a rare life threatening tumour that had been missed. Only because I insisted on another scan was it diagnosed and operated on. Despite that I have nowt but praise and admiration for the whole lot of them,from consultants down to nursing assistants they are caring, attentive, cheerful, considerate,dedicated...amazing people on the whole ,who put most of us to shame.
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Spot on Dobbo.
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Facts 01 Dec 14 23:31
Dealing with ill, often abusive,ungrateful patients, cleaning up and clearing up, faeces,urine,vomit and blood Nurses on the maternity wards at Queens Hospital, Romford and Newham General Hospital, don't do clearing up. They refuse. Cleaners have been hired to do it. I would imagine that other London hospitals may be the same. And up here in the QE2 Hospital in Kings Lynn, a man wrote to the local rag about a year ago: 'When I was a child I was in hospital having my tonsils out. I awoke during the night to find my bed and all other beds in the middle of the room while the nurses mopped the entire floor with disinfectant. I was in the QE2 last week, and under the bed opposite me was what looked like a small piece of ribbon. It was still there when I went home 4 days later.' I was an out-patient in the QE2 recently. Seated in the 'waiting room' (corridor) waiting to see a consultant, on the carpet under the 'magazine table' in the centre of the room, I saw a matchbox. That was a Tuesday morning. It was still there when I returned on Thursday afternoon. But there are plenty of cleaning staff in the hospital, you can see them walking round the place. |
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Hmmm - I don't think cleaners would be holding sick basins,changing patients soiled garments or wiping patients bottoms or fitting catheters or stripping the beds,
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Don't get me wrong please, but there have been too many bad things which I have suffered.
In '93 my wife saw a female doctor as she was putting on weight on her middle and her clothes didn't fit. She was told she had "Fibroids". A year and a half later she was admitted for a hysterectomy, where it was found that she had advanced "Ovarian Cancer". Two cysts the size of Grapefruits. She struggled on for eight years and passed away in 2001. How the hell does a doctor, especially a female one, make that kind of mistake? It still hurts me when I am at the surgery and see "Be Clear On Cancer" leaflets! |
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Six years ago my nephew phoned, as he was at my elder sisters house and couldn't get in as keys were in the locks.
I raced over and we had to call the police. It was a rare hot day, and having borrowed a ladder they broke in through the landing window. She was in bed in stifling unventilated air and this was at 17:30 in the afternoon. God knows how long she had been there, and when the ambulance came, and a paramedic we were told she had a stroke. She was in a really bad way and was taken to hospital with me following. She was complaining of bright flashing colours and other stuff. We left at about 10:00 and next day my nephew phoned the hospital to see how she was, and was told she was sent home at 11:30 and he found her in the kitchen staring at the wall and shaking. I'll leave this now as the last bit is diabolical! |
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Thinly veiled I went to grammer school thread imo
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The worst disgrace nowadays is the lack of treatment for the mentally ill
it hardly exists at all. and yet we are totally obsessed over physical health |
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I'd have to agree with ebul there. In theory the whole concept of care in the community was a good one but as with everything the devil is in the detail.
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I'll leave out a lot of the middle bit.
She ended up in a care home and four years later wasn't eating at all and not drinking enough. Twice they called an ambulance and she was sent back in the early hours. On the next occasion my sister was there and was told "do you not think it a good idea to not call an ambulance every time she complains? There's nothing wrong with her, she's making it up" She was complaining of pain and yet they still sent her back. Two weeks later she went for a scan and it was found that she had "Colo-Rectal" cancer. Three weeks later she was gone. |
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Agreed
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To the two ' e's '
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AP - sorry for your loss.
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I know a lot abt this having been involved with top medical people was told once "the people get the NHS that they deserve"...........this relates to "time wasters" esp at A & E .......people that know their rights.......demanding ambulances when theres a bus stop outside...........for proper people wiv proper problems U could not be in better hands
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Aunty
Anybody who says such a thing as that shouldn't be looking after people. There's a difference between not being able to find something and projecting that on to the person suggesting they are at fault. If your ego is so big that you can't allow for your own fallibility as is the case with some people then they may be better on something like x factor or standing for parliament. |
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Apologies for my last post, I'll work on my timing.
My experience with the NHS is not that good either, my Grandad died of cancer and he went quite quickly, in the space of 6 weeks from being diagnosed, he was the sharpest person I knew and as single minded and independent as they come, to see him turn yellow, lose so much weight so quickly making him look literally 20 years older, having to be changed, fed and watered by strangers was a humiliating end to a life he fought his way through, but what made it worse was the contempt the nurses showed, like he was a burden and waiting for him to die, worse thing was because he was a virtual invalid - the tone of voice in which they spoke to him in, like he was a child is something I'll never forget. Myself I broke my foot as a teenager at christmas time and waited 12 hours to be seen to. Though there was a very nice nurse from New Zealand who took a shine to me Nurses no doubt start off with their hearts in the right place, like politicians who think they can change things and want to help, but once inside, the big monster that is the nhs weighs their spirit down, it's a hard job that imo affects their performance and motivation levels. |
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You get good and bad people in every walk of life
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I was just going to post the very same thing, Facts.
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