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Jack, secure the perimeter
https://twitter.com/oliverwpk/status/544988871315165184 |
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A quote I liked on twitter;
the whole story indulged us in our own state of paedo-hysteria, whilst delivering an ending that is grounded in the simple reality that a child is hundreds of times more likely to be run over than be abducted by a nonce. |
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Observations and Questions
1. University Challenge last night answer to the very first question…'Ozymandius' 2. Opening sequences (again)….there was a fox, but it looked like a bigger mammal to us….snow on swing in opening sequence (Russia)..man reflected in multi stored building is Tony in Russia…I think…So the conclusion is that the opening sequences were images drawn fairly sequentially throughout the story… 3. Vincent Bourg has got quite big ears. 4. Did police ever say they found the body of Garrett? What happened to forensic investigation of crime scene with Tony's prints everywhere? 5. Olivers body 20 yards in front of car. Why? 6. Alain's version of events is uncorroborated. 7. Denoument score 7/10 |
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BBC confirms The Missing will return for a second series.
New case, new cast, new location. Lets hope they keep the same writers! |
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8. Do we know Tony drew the snow?
Sorry if some obvious questions, and will watch again tonight. |
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Don't quite understand the Russia angle unless there are either some leads for such we haven't seen led him there or was it just to emphasise Tony's ever increasing madness that he ended up looking there for some reason?
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Really powerful final episode. Nice how they could get us all wrapped up in conspiracies of this, that and the other and in the end it was a senseless, pointless death that could have easily been avoided.
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5. Olivers body 20 yards in front of car. Why?
that's where it ended after after the car hit him |
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Big_Issue Joined: 16 Jun 04
Replies: 2846 17 Dec 14 08:41 Don't quite understand the Russia angle unless there are either some leads for such we haven't seen led him there or was it just to emphasise Tony's ever increasing madness that he ended up looking there for some reason? That's the open endedness of it. George saw what he thought was Ollie but could have been someone else who was heavily bloodied or face partially covered and then Ollie was sold on. The fact that he'd been harassing kids all over points to the mad angle but the boys reaction wasn't to shout for anyone or shut the door which leaves a chance that it was Ollie. Any Russian speakers here? Be interesting to know what the kid said after he handed him the drawing |
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5. Olivers body 20 yards in front of car. Why?
that's where it ended after after the car hit him Pedestrians hit by cars usually go over the bonnet. Even if he had been hit and somehow knocked forward, there is no way that he would have gone 20 yards in front of the car and even that doesn't allow for the car to subsequently brake and stop. |
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Any Russian speakers here? Be interesting to know what the kid said after he handed him the drawing
yes, he intimated that he did not understand |
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it is not feasible that the Russian boy is Olly. Would he really have forgotten how to speak English and also speak fluent Russian?
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To be honest, I thought that the Russian scene was just Tony dreaming.
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It was a good episode. The ending was ok.
I will miss having this to watch each week. I've really enjoyed reading all your posts on this thread. Broadchurch returns on January 5th. I'm looking forward to it. |
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Personally I liked the ending. Don't understand people saying it was 'open ended', the kid is dead and as the writers confirmed they wanted an ending with closure rather than having viewers guessing.
Thought the use of the Russian thing at the start was a nice little twist to keep people wondering. Good series overall. |
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Russian scene was implausible for me, for a start you need a visa to travel there, I s'pose he might have got one, or entered illegally, but if he'd been hassling kids in all the places the cops mentioned at the end he'd have well outstayed his welcome, it's inconceivable that the Russians would n't have known who he was and why he was there from the media coverage of the case - they would've deported him surely.
Sylvie not finding out about Alain's involvement stretches credibility as well - even if there was a media blackout on Alain and Georges involvement by the French police - and why would there be? - a new version of Malik would've found out what happened and reported it. I think Olly's dead - let's not forget that he was left alone in the house with the Romanian psychopath who slashed Rene's throat in a public place, he would have thought nothing of killing the kid on the basis that Ollie had seen his face and the fact that he was the murderer would also explain his attack on Rene. I appreciate my first two paragraphs are a bit literal, really enjoyed the series but thought they could've found a different way to illustrate Tony's breakdown, his beard was n't very convincing either. I hope it wins one or both of the Golden Globes it has nominations for - I though Nesbitt was excellent too, not normally a fan of his acting (smug is the default setting) but he grew on me in this. |
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Good post, Rease.
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Pedestrians hit by cars usually go over the bonnet. Even if he had been hit and somehow knocked forward, there is no way that he would have gone 20 yards in front of the car and even that doesn't allow for the car to subsequently brake and stop.
Don't know how that works with an 8 year old, but fair point - although it's irrelevant in terms of a conspiracy/plot twist imo |
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I appreciate my first two paragraphs are a bit literal, really enjoyed the series but thought they could've found a different way to illustrate Tony's breakdown, his beard was n't very convincing either.
the whole russian episode with snow, descent into madness and crap beard were all very reminiscent of the shining imo  |
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The facts are we don't know for certain that the boy was murdered as we did not see him being killed and a body has not been discovered. All we have is the word of the Romanian gangster who could easily have faked the death for his own benefit, after all the boy is a commodity that has value.
That is why it is open-ended. You can choose to believe the Romanian's claim that he killed him or you can have your doubts. The writers also have the option to return back to this plot at some future point. If we had seen the murder or a body had been discovered they would not have this option. The likelihood is that they will just leave it at that and this story is finished but they can decide to play it anyway they like. |
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From a practical pov, you don't traffic a kid that the whole world is looking for. Much easier to source kids from the street or Eastern Eurpoean orphanage or wherever. We have seen the guy split throats before, that ties in with the amount of blood at the scene. There is no need to fake death for the Mayor's benefit, suffice to say the Romanian is calling the tune at that point. They gang had come prepared to deal with a dead body and that is what they did imo.
The ambiguity is there as a plot device so that we can contrast Emily and Tonys ability to accept the situation and move on, or not in Tony's case. The viewers can choose from the two alernative perspectives, both are viable, given the fact we haven't actually seen the body. Personally, I don't think we will be revisiting the story of Ollie Hughes in future series, though you never know! |
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Who did Hills and Betfair sports book pay out on? Anyone know?
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Ozymandius
18 Dec 14 10:44 From a practical pov, you don't traffic a kid that the whole world is looking for. Bad news for the McCann girl then. |
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Betfair paid out on Alain only, WH paid out as a dead-heat between Alain and Georges. Views?
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Betfair paid out on Alain only, WH paid out as a dead-heat between Alain and Georges. Views?
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I dont know how Betfair phrased their market, but Hills were angling towards paying out on more than one when they stated 'multiple abductors'.
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Alain & Georges seems a reasonable interpretation. Anyone placing a bet knew that it might come down to bookmaker interpretation.
Georges backers at Betfair can feel hard done by. As for Alain's backers at Hills the consensus pre-denoument was that he didn't have the wherewithal to do it singlehandedly and that you would be subject to dead heat rules. They could also have thrown Caid de Cite into the mix, I think they were priced up. |
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This thread was supposed to die as the OP is 'missing' and has been for some time.
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Got a lot to live up to but a promising start. Begs the question why most tv dramas can't do production, direction and story telling this well.
BBC 1 now. |
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call me a taxi 07 Jan 15 12:27
This thread was supposed to die as the OP is 'missing' and has been for some time. Oh the irony !!!  |
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Yep. Good start.Lots of time jumps again. Need to keep your wits about you.
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Agreed, decent start. Like the jolt in the very last few seconds of the episode twisting it already.
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