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By:
Ivor
When: 18 Dec 14 16:27
It seems Bianchi is your odd son favourite?
I don't think Mark can be written off just yet... could stills wing it?
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 18 Dec 14 17:19
I didn't like the way Mark (last week) was slating the other candidates' business plans. Imo, that should be down to LS.

It's fair enough to blow your own trumpet but one of his comments was, "I will produce a net profit of over £1m in year 1".

I'm surprised he wasn't challenged on this last night (interviews) unless his business plan says something different.
By:
Roger The Butler
When: 18 Dec 14 20:26
Remember Mark blew up badly under pressure a couple of weeks ago when stammering, coughing and getting the sweats. A clip from next week was him looking surprised at how big/intimidating the place looked where he was going to have to present. Could collapse in a heap again?

Interview stage and firing - I thought Daniel came across really well. He has been a bit of a **** through the series but has always been himself, has never cosied up to people, told them what he thought, been quite entertaining. Last night I thought he was very dignified. Took criticism, didn't give it the usual 'please Lord Sugar' waffle when he was on the ropes, took his firing on the chin and walked off with his head held high. Yes he told a little porky on his cv, but that aside I thought he should be very proud of that episode (unlike the hilarious country show episode when him and Cornholio bickered like 5 year old girls all day!)
By:
call me a taxi
When: 18 Dec 14 23:30
Has this been mentioned yet?

Just read on BBC news that on Tuesday night there was a 'glitch' on the BBC's 'meet the candidates' page that said 3 remained in the process. 

But 5 appeared on the Wednesday show LaughLaugh
By:
Ramruma
When: 19 Dec 14 07:38
The post-show media coverage has been revealing.

One of the past candidates said that one advantage of being in the boardroom (which apparently goes on for hours) is that you get a free business masterclass from Lord Sugar.

Roisin has said that as well as firing her (which of course, we saw) he advised her that:
1) he (Lord Sugar) would be unable to open any doors for her as he had no contacts (although name recognition would probably mean people would take his call);
2) Roisin should therefore seek a partnership with an established food producer;
3) to avoid running out of cash (as in her business plan for immediate world domination) she should launch into small territories and expand as it takes off.

Roisin is now in bed with an Irish food manufacturer and will launch Nudles with Roisin first into Dublin, then (if all goes well) the rest of Ireland, then the UK etc.

Solomon on the other hand comes across as a fame-hungry TV **** who now wants to be on Made In Chelsea.
By:
Ramruma
When: 19 Dec 14 08:29
The final is on Sunday. Mark vs Bianca.

Mark's plan is basically to do what he does for his old employer -- digital marketing and search engine optimisation, sfaict, ie getting your web site up near the top of Google's results -- for himself. A lot of small businesses start that way. Ricky Martin who won two years ago is similar.

Bianca's plan is to manufacture tights and shapewear (which has apparently moved on since whalebone corsets).

Prediction: no idea. And tbh I'm not really sure I care. Both seem plausible businesses but if it was the production team's aim to make me root for one or other of the candidates, it has failed. Anyway, there is not long to wait now.

Mark's seems safer in that we know he can do it (because he does it already for another company). It is a shame we did not hear more about his claims for £1 million in a year.

On the other hand, although in electronics rather than fashion, Lord Sugar's background is in manufacturing and selling products, which might favour Bianca. The fashion editor consulted by one of the interviewers said there was a real gap in the market, so could Bianca be the next Spandex or Ultimo?

Revised prediction: it is Bianca's to lose. It does not matter how well or badly Mark does in the final because everything is already known. Bianca on the other hand needs to prove to Lord Sugar that she, Bianca, can make this work in the real world. If the mock-launch in the final goes well, she wins. If it flops, she loses because Mark is the safe, fallback option.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 19 Dec 14 08:56
I agree. In a nutshell, I would rather work with Mark but prefer Bisnca's plan.
By:
Crisp77
When: 19 Dec 14 08:59
For me Mark wins. Sir/Lord Al throws a small amount of money at it and six months later he is working as a salesman for Sir/Lord Al.
By:
Crisp77
When: 19 Dec 14 09:00
Mark is a bit daft really. Wants to work for himself and then goes towards going into a 50/50 shared business for a maximum £250k loan at terms to be discussed.
By:
Stow_judge
When: 19 Dec 14 09:01
Is it Al's dough or ours via the BBC?
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 19 Dec 14 09:05
SEO must be a crowded market but may be quite lucrative.

I often get people offering SEO services. When I say I'm no but might need some website design work done, they don't seem interested.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 19 Dec 14 09:07
Stow - suspect it's Alan's.

As an aside, he donates his fee for the show to Great Ormand Steet Children's Hospital.

Have no idea what the fee is but would guess iro £200k pa?
By:
Stow_judge
When: 19 Dec 14 09:22
Bianca seemed incredibly thick during some of the tasks. Wasn't it her who gave exclusive rights to a small shop over Westminster? I seem to recall her going some ridiculous haggling as well. An airhead?
By:
Stow_judge
When: 19 Dec 14 09:23
Would like to see Al be knocked down a peg or several. He has such an inflated view of himself.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 19 Dec 14 09:26
Yes, that was Bianca. As I said earlier, I would rather work with Mark but prefer Bianca's business.
By:
Stow_judge
When: 19 Dec 14 09:29
So you're a stockings man? Grin
By:
Crisp77
When: 19 Dec 14 09:37

Dec 19, 2014 -- 4:05AM, i_agree_with_nick wrote:


SEO must be a crowded market but may be quite lucrative.I often get people offering SEO services. When I say I'm no but might need some website design work done, they don't seem interested.


A quick tip if you get people offering to get you onto the first page of Google.

Just respond that sounds great. Then go onto google and type in the search box 'get me onto the first page of google' if they company calling ain't on the first page tell them so and see what excuse they come up with Mischief

By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 19 Dec 14 09:47
Actually, I'm already on the first page of Google.

In fact, for most searches, I'm in the top three on page 1 and never had any help with SEO but I'm in a very niche market.
By:
Crisp77
When: 19 Dec 14 09:55
Spot on Nick.

Most companies can get themselves onto the first page of Google if they are locally or niche focused.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 19 Dec 14 13:47
This is the tenth series but none of the fired trio seem to have watched any of the other nine.

They do seem to have learned not to say, "I'm just like you, Surallan".
By:
Stow_judge
When: 21 Dec 14 09:21
According to a pretty convincing story in the people, Bianca nicked her idea from a lady she met at an networking event for black business people in February 2013. Shocked

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/apprentice-finalist-bianca-miller-stole-4847525
By:
Ramruma
When: 21 Dec 14 10:26
@Stowe_judge re Bianca nicking the idea. Maybe. Who knows? Ideas are ten-a-penny; it's the execution that matters. It might even be one of the ideas Solomon tapped into his phone in the middle of the night. (Btw, the interviewer told Solomon his idea for renting bedrooms by the hour was an hotel -- but surely it is dangerously close to a knocking shop.) Ella told the People she had the idea in 2010, so four years later she has still failed to make a go of it.

Most businesses -- probably well over 99 per cent -- are not based on original ideas, but either on better or just local (not even better) application of an existing business. My newsagent retires at the end of the year but 40 years ago he was not put off by the thought of other shops selling papers. Vauxhall has not chucked it in because Ford makes cars. Purely by coincidence, I was just clicking around Youtube (not the first internet video site btw) when I came across this from ex-Dragon Theo Paphitis: "I've never had an original idea in my life. I just look at other people's ideas and execute them better."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ouc-gxtRDo

Tbh I'd be astonished if tights for darker skins was not already an established industry in America where there is a large Black middle class, not to mention Africa or India.

And that I think might be the weakness in Bianca's idea -- that really she has not designed a better product but merely wants to sell (wholesale or retail?) one that she will commission from existing manufacturers. Or at least, that is my understanding from last week. The final is on BBC1 tonight so we shall see. From a shop's point of view, tights take up hardly any room so stocking (no pun intended) an extensive range of sizes and colours will be easy enough (although if Bianca is aiming at a premium brand with boxes and tissue paper, that might not be true). The problem is that if sales do take off, as they probably will since it is a good idea, Bianca is easily bypassed, so she needs quickly to develop a strong brand before then: not easy if she is not the designer.
By:
Wesdag
When: 21 Dec 14 11:48
Regarding the existing tights manufacturers, what's stopping them from just bringing out darker shades if it's proved there is a hungry market?
By:
Percy Filth
When: 21 Dec 14 12:39
According to a pretty convincing story in the people, Bianca nicked her idea from a lady she met at an networking event for black business people in February 2013. Shocked

Does that mean white people were banned?
By:
Wesdag
When: 21 Dec 14 13:11
How shocking that black people who are vastly over-represented in business could have an event all to themselves.
By:
Percy Filth
When: 21 Dec 14 13:54
it is shocking that people should be excluded because of the colour of their skin.
By:
Wesdag
When: 21 Dec 14 14:03
Indeed - probably the reason why they felt there is still a need to have events.
By:
Percy Filth
When: 21 Dec 14 14:07
Guess you don't believe in equality, Wesdag
By:
Wesdag
When: 21 Dec 14 14:19
What you need to ask yourself Percy, is why there is such a need for such events in the first place.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 21 Dec 14 15:05
There isnt.
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 21 Dec 14 15:16
"Bianca seemed incredibly thick during some of the tasks."

They all seemed incredibly thick during some of the tasks ! 

Whoever wins it, Bianca or Mark, both lightweight, and both could easily snap under a bit of real pressure. This is probably the thickest lot they have ever had on The Apprentice.  I thought Roisin (or whatever her name is) would be in the final 2, but let herself down badly with the most ridiculous business plan..... and wanting to go global straight away...... and oh, I just need another £500,000 now..... this is so unique...... and oh, what do you mean it's already on the market, is it ?

Seen that in the papers today that Bianca has not based her business plan on an original idea and apparently she pinched the idea ...... happens all the time ......  Mark Z with Facebook was a punk genius, but he basically pinched the idea although he was the one who developed it.
By:
DStyle
When: 21 Dec 14 20:05
dum dedum dedum dedum dedum dedum dedum dum

anyone else noticed that Bianca has an absolute mahoosive heeed.
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Dec 14 20:07
More brains inside?
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 21 Dec 14 20:13
£35 for a pair of tights Shocked

Might be a big potential market but wouldn't have thought many would pay that much
By:
DStyle
When: 21 Dec 14 20:17
Climb media

facking brilliant.
By:
DStyle
When: 21 Dec 14 20:18
like a psychologist called Phyllis calling their Business Psy Phyllis
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Dec 14 20:23
French guy : "sorry if I sound so bland"

"Blunt" ! ....you snail muncher !
By:
DStyle
When: 21 Dec 14 20:24
Mark is getting ready to unleash the mother of all chokes.

AAhem..
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 21 Dec 14 20:41
don't like Marks branding at all. looks very public sector
By:
DStyle
When: 21 Dec 14 20:41
bianca wins i suspect.

she's got an idea that needs polishing.

mark's area is too competitive.
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