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Mc Moonbeam
09 Oct 14 18:28
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Probably the most uninspiring fixture there is & they seem to play each other 5 times per year !


Prices are interesting though , 2-0  @ 36  3-0 @ 17 , under 6.5 goals even money


I shall be cringing for Rooney to miss every sitter Happy
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Report Ibrahima Sonko October 9, 2014 8:07 PM BST
0-0 into 85 already
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 8:08 PM BST
You on Mischief
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 8:09 PM BST
ooop 1-0
Report Ibrahima Sonko October 9, 2014 8:11 PM BST
should had guessed the england goal would come from a set piece.
Report pumphol. October 9, 2014 8:12 PM BST
Just replace the san marino keeper with say an average championship goalie & England would get three at the most
Report ReaseHeath October 9, 2014 8:21 PM BST
Rooney needs to contact one of those ambulance chasing law firms about that hair transplant.

where there's blame, there's a claim.
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 8:29 PM BST
ahh ffs no need for a pen there .. could cost me .. joke team though
Report rob_dylan October 9, 2014 8:30 PM BST
Had no idea they were playing on a thurs night, saw the build up and presumed it was saturday.  Anyway I thought Rooney at 5/1 for a hattrick was a good price.
Report Ibrahima Sonko October 9, 2014 9:04 PM BST
miles onside.

poor lallana
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 9:05 PM BST
Disallowed hehee .. 4-0 5-0 final bets now after some manic trading ...
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 9:15 PM BST
it's gonna be 6 Sad
Report kenny mann October 9, 2014 9:26 PM BST
6 7 or 8 is fine, by me. Nice 10/11 shot I backed.
Report kenny mann October 9, 2014 9:26 PM BST
You've got 6 haven't you MC. unless you changed your mind.
Report kenny mann October 9, 2014 9:27 PM BST
sorry, was looking at your early post
Report rob_dylan October 9, 2014 9:33 PM BST
Looks like I will win 5 p unless we get a sixth
Report pumphol. October 9, 2014 9:36 PM BST
A pleasing result
Report kenny mann October 9, 2014 9:36 PM BST
£90 I win. Happy
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 9:36 PM BST
I layed 6-0 off quite early @ 5.6 Kenny .. just looked terrible value & plumped my book up a bit ... very nice win in the end ... could of won more but am a happy chappy Happy


Did you stay with 6-0 Sad
Report kenny mann October 9, 2014 9:39 PM BST
I did 5-0 6-0 7-0 and 8-0 Mc. Stand out prices with Will Hill. 5-0 was 7/1 as was 6-0. 7-0 was 8/1 and 8-0 10/1. Very good bet at a shade of odds on.
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 9:39 PM BST
glad you won a bit ... but I'm becoming a Master of correct score trading .. had a great run of them lately Cool
Report kenny mann October 9, 2014 9:40 PM BST
Couldn't do it on Betfair of course.
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 9:40 PM BST
I prefer to back on here then you can trade in & out all the way through if you have to Wink
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 9:42 PM BST
It usually has more value than dodging the commission & gaining half a point etc ..
Report kenny mann October 9, 2014 9:42 PM BST
Do you do all your trading before the event starts? If not it's not really trading imo.
Report kenny mann October 9, 2014 9:42 PM BST
well it is in a way, but with a fair slice of gambling thrown in
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 9:45 PM BST
No

I did trade the 2-0 pre match for a free bet .. then backed 3456-0 .. ditched 6-0 ... and traded 3-0 off @ 8's after backing @ 17.5

It is trading as if it goes to plan you're always laying bits off at lower prices  Happy
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 9:48 PM BST
only way it goes very wrong is an Away goal Scared


but that's why you should trade down slightly !
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 9:49 PM BST
I trade slightly to skew the book in my favour ... then it's a calculated gamble
Report pumphol. October 9, 2014 9:52 PM BST
kenny mann    09 Oct 14 21:40 
Couldn't do it on Betfair of course.


All those scores were trading on Betfair Kenny, 5-0 was 8.2
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 9:52 PM BST
You really have to pick your matches though .. strong Favs .. Premiership games usually this one was a nice bonus
Report kenny mann October 9, 2014 9:55 PM BST
I used to trade matches before kick off. I concentrated on the draw in tight games. I'd take several positions with large money in and regularly won a ton before kick off. Then one day the site went down and I wasn't sure of my positions and what had been matched. Luckily it came back with 7 mins to kick off and I had massive liabilities on the draw which luckily I could equal out. I've been a lot cagier since then
Report kenny mann October 9, 2014 9:57 PM BST
Well I didn't see them pumpy. I saw up to 3-0 and then any unquoted. No 4-0 or above prior to kick off.
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 9:58 PM BST
you have to use the Correct Score 2 Market for 4-0 5-0 6-0 kenny


I don't usually back those scores in Prem games obv
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 9:59 PM BST
4-0  9.6

5-0  8

6-0  7.8
Report kenny mann October 9, 2014 10:01 PM BST
cheers MC. Didn't know that. Luckily the prices were no better, or maybe a tad worse that Hills.
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 10:04 PM BST
No probs Happy

Higher scores like that can be more risky though also
Report kenny mann October 9, 2014 10:08 PM BST
Well I wouldn't do them normally (obviously) , but this was a goodish bet I reckoned given the opposition, who wouldn't conced 10 probably (goalie had played 40 times and let 161 in .
Report pumphol. October 9, 2014 10:18 PM BST
Any really short fav Kenny  on the footie the game will have a correct score 2 market its just you  have to scroll down quite a way on the markets for that match.
Report kenny mann October 9, 2014 10:24 PM BST
Thanks pumpy. That is handy to know. Was looking tonight but never realised.
Report Coachbuster October 9, 2014 10:26 PM BST
this is about the only fixture left these days where i get a guaranteed win before kick off  - good old San Marino  Wink
Report Coachbuster October 9, 2014 10:33 PM BST
moonylad - there was a correct score 3 tonight  ,did you see it listed ?
Report call me a taxi October 9, 2014 10:41 PM BST
I recall a european game of some sort back in the mid 1970s when England were playing Cyprus.

I don't like football but was at my sister's house for dinner. She had to go out, and left me with the brother-in-law, who was football mad, so the match was on telly.

He had their baby daughter in his arms, who was being miserable. He said to her 'Oooh Sara, if England score daddy will dip your dummy in his scotch.'

England also won that match 5-0, and I think Sara was pissed. Laugh Laugh
Report SlippyBlue October 9, 2014 10:46 PM BST
I remember that game well, I was into football at that time. SuperMac scored all 5 goals.

16 April 1975: England's Malcolm Macdonald scores five against Cyprus.
Report call me a taxi October 9, 2014 10:54 PM BST
Iirc he won a few sprints on Sporting Superstars.
Report Mc Moonbeam October 9, 2014 11:00 PM BST
Hey Coach

Yes I did notice it but I usually err on the lower side of the spread as I find that's the better value , I would've just plonked my money on under 6.5 tbh

Hope you're doing ok Happy
Report curious-cat October 10, 2014 12:54 AM BST
I had forgotten this was on until some time in the second half.

Since the crowd were cheering when the England goalie touched the ball I backed 'both teams to score - NO' at 1.07.

there was over £117,000 matched on this market.

Match Odds Total matched on this event:  £3,673,333
Report Coachbuster October 10, 2014 10:23 AM BST
Moonbeam - all well this end , a shot on Belgium tonight correct score for you ?  similar scenario , or more riskier Kazakhstan WinkGrin
Report wit-ham October 10, 2014 10:38 AM BST
Was at pool league match last night bloke on other team
had Jakulike and 6-0 125/1 poor bloke
Report Mc Moonbeam October 10, 2014 6:46 PM BST
Glad to hear you're doing ok Coach

I'm not really too keen on these Qualifiers tbh so I won't be getting over involved tonight

I was at a huge loss after the world cup but am gradually making good headway lately just picking value off where I see it , i'll wait till Saturday for a couple of championship games I fancy now along with a few longer term trades

gl if you get involved though , might try a Holland/Italy double for a laugh @ 1.19 Wink
Report Mc Moonbeam October 10, 2014 6:47 PM BST
I do have a history of making England scores pay though , they're all so predictable , lol
Report pumphol. October 10, 2014 8:17 PM BST
Correct scores in these qualifiers was my best source of income until about 10 years ago when the betting firms finally cottoned on & slashed the prices mainly on 1-0 & 2-0 to the bone.
Up until then a team at say 1/5 to win the match would be priced

1-0 10/1
2-0 8/1
3-0 7/1

Even 4-0 & 5-0 were better than they are now


matches scores over the years have not really changed just the prices you can now get Sad
Report Coachbuster October 10, 2014 9:53 PM BST
pumpy , i used to favour the 1-0 as  well  Wink

Moonbeam -  rough ride tonight if you were on Holland

i threw away £100 without realising what the score was - panic bought the 5-1 in  the dying seconds ,me thinking it was 4-1

can't afford these sort of  mistakes - someone got a free hand out  Cry
Report Coachbuster October 10, 2014 9:53 PM BST
stay lucky anway moony - good luck saturday
Report pumphol. October 10, 2014 10:05 PM BST
had england 5-0 6-0, Eire 5-0 6-0  with Netherlands 2-0 3-0 Sad
Report Mc Moonbeam October 10, 2014 10:06 PM BST
That sucks Coach .. though could always be worse Sad

No I didn't touch Holland in the end & ddn't do a silly double , I waited for in play & ended up on Italy 2-0 , only lost £25 in the end though , Lazy Italians have let me down for years , but I seem to have leaned a fair bit from my mistakes as History always repeats itself Wink

I used to dutch the correct scores in doubles & trebles years ago too Pumpy & have been a big correct score bettor since about 2007 on here , it's still profitable as long as there's liquidity to trade in & out freely Happy
Report pumphol. October 10, 2014 10:13 PM BST
Used to hardly bet until the qualifiers & had dozens of bets moon, singles, multiple double, trebles & even lucky 15's
My biggest win was when Sweden won 1-0 at Azerbajan they were around 1/5 & I lumped on at 10/1.

Glad your finding then still on here, play only small myself on the exchange, don't think the value is there for big bets anymore on flat bets but your probably right I'm sure in games such as England's you should be able to make it pay in running.
Report Mc Moonbeam October 10, 2014 10:22 PM BST
I prefer Premiership or Champs league games for decent bets really Pumpy as there are really too many options for qualifiers & that loose away goal always kills your bets dead

Premiership games for example you can back 2-0 3-0 & basically just wait , of course you have to land the correct score but prices will be getting shorter in running , or you can cover yourself late on by backing say 2-1 if it's 2-0 70 mins gone , it's all a matter of good timing as early goals can cause a bit of a panic Mischief
Report pumphol. October 10, 2014 10:29 PM BST
Maybe I'll try it for small stakes just to see if I can turn over a profit
Report Mc Moonbeam October 10, 2014 10:33 PM BST
sometimes you just have to ditch your bets if it's not going your way though

e.g  2-0 with 20 mins gone in a fiery game just lay the 2-0 to level your red down Wink

Celtic were my best team years ago couldn't lose backing 2-0 3-0 sometimes 4-0 but not now there's not even a penny in the market Blush
Report Mc Moonbeam October 10, 2014 10:34 PM BST
I'm sure you get what I mean just trade off a bit to your advantage when prices drop
Report SlippyBlue October 10, 2014 10:41 PM BST
I watched the highlights, we were goddam dreadful. Germany would have scored 10.
Report SlippyBlue October 10, 2014 10:44 PM BST
Crystal Palace would have scored 5 against them and we're hopeless Shocked
Report pumphol. October 10, 2014 10:45 PM BST
Right will be having a go Moony May try the Eire game small, don't want to get too involved already  have money running on 5 & 6 but doubt Gibraltar will get a shot on target let alone score
Report Mc Moonbeam October 10, 2014 10:54 PM BST
Have you backed yourself to go down this season slippy , maybe a no lose kinda bet Plain
Report pumphol. October 10, 2014 11:28 PM BST
SlippyBlue    10 Oct 14 22:41 
I watched the highlights, we were goddam dreadful. Germany would have scored 10.


Exactly slipps I wrote the following before kick off


pumphol.    09 Oct 14 19:07 
Iv'e had 5-0 @7/1 mainly because they are not in the German mould of breaking down a team like this with 11 players behind the ball, Germany would get 8-10 England more like 4-6.
Report SlippyBlue October 10, 2014 11:32 PM BST
NO, you must be yanking my chain McM Angry Never would I bet Palace to go down, you are joshing me obviously. I think we will be OK this season, Burnley and QPR have to be in dire straits methinks and Sunderland and West Brom as well must be in the mix. Newcastle should be safe I reckon. Our home form should see us safe I would have thought and we beat Everton away, that was a hell of a result.
Report Mc Moonbeam October 11, 2014 1:36 AM BST
Laugh
No i wasn't intentionally pulling your .. err .. chain Slippy
I think you're right though you do have a fair chance of staying up
I agree with Burnley & QPR so only really leaves one spot , but the bookies seem to have it reserved for you for a few months to come yet Blush so will be a tough season to come
Personally I think Sunderland & West Brom are good enough but Newcastle are in dire straits , plus I don't know enough about the team , so best of luck to you Happy
Report Coachbuster October 11, 2014 11:46 AM BST
i never realised you even did correct score market moonbeam  Grin    and then you tell me since 2007  ShockedLaugh

if you're like me you may be finding the going very tough this year - this year was a decent world cup  but ...i hadn't made a single penny on here since July until the San Marino game - my longest run without profit in 8 years ( i allow myself 20 weeks float- then it would be over for me on here Cry)

2009,2010,2011 and 2012 was magical (for me)   

THEN IT ALL CHANGED Shocked

Atleast you can fall back on the poker  Happy

I would get a part time job ,but it seems so futile earning £7.50 an hour when you can throw awy that in 5 seconds on here - it gets you down sometimes but then you have to be mentally strong to overcome the hurdles

just found out that 4-1 'goal' last night  was ruled out - had a huge green on that score  waiting for me on that score (and a red 5-1)

damn it .

have you been looking at other places to live  ?
Report pumphol. October 11, 2014 6:17 PM BST
Gutted, I knew Gibraltar would get thrashed & was quite happy at 3-0 at half time but 4 goals in the first 10 min of the second half has killed me Cry
Even my saver on betfair at 7-0 has no chance, ten looks on the cards
Report pumphol. October 11, 2014 6:49 PM BST
Not really sure how I got away with that Shocked
Report Coachbuster October 11, 2014 7:02 PM BST
did they stop trying pumpy ?   well done mate   Happy
Report Mc Moonbeam October 11, 2014 7:44 PM BST
Hey Coach
I've always been a fan of correct scores since my bookie days pre 2000 so betfair was just a progression though never use to win much at them on here until i started trading more scores like 2-0 3-0 4-0
It's not easy but is the value in a lot of games where the Fav 's 1.33 as i don't back hot Favs
Trying to beat Unders has been a downfall of mine the last few years they can really start to hurt you after a few losses but they can often be the only vlue bet in a game to win a decent amount , i can't just make peanuts as i'd rather not bother at all Blush
I had the most horrendous World cup ever i wanted to just quit gambling forever afterwards Sad though i could've just Dutched the Top 4 in the winners market for a fair chunk back but bottled it & played the match odds instead

The whole gambling game has screwed with my head these last few years & am gonna have to cut the poker rght down at the end of this year so not quite sure what i'm gonna do , i prefer betfair to poker but i still need a wage to pay bills etc

I'd still like to move & buy a house instead of my flat but feel a bit stuck now , takes so much time & effort to move & although i have money to buy a house i'd be a bit skint & jobless if i did , like you i'm not sure i could work for £7.50 hour after what i've done,  i'd probably be better off on the dole now Plain
Report Mc Moonbeam October 11, 2014 7:45 PM BST
easy money Pumpo Love
Report Coachbuster October 11, 2014 8:29 PM BST
Moon -  i couldn't survive on gambling at current rates if this was say 2005 when i had a mortgage and everything else to keep on top of - i know you've paid for your pad - so no loan to pay back . that's good

that's probably how we manage

work would just send me to the nuthouse - i know that much

we need professional help Grin
Report Coachbuster October 11, 2014 8:30 PM BST
keep the faith my meerkat friend

Happy
Report Mc Moonbeam October 11, 2014 8:49 PM BST
work would just send me to the nuthouse - i know that much

we need professional help Laugh

It's true
I put everything into gambling since i was old enough & this is what i have to show for it , but at least i've earned what i've got & there's still hope yet Happy

You just have to take a dif approach sometimes & go for the big money , buying outrights etc

I don't really enjoy trading games all the time as it's just gambling & a disaster waiting to happen again , be better off playing the stock market , at least you can actually make a few grand that way

Cheers

are you still renting with your Ladyfriend Confused

Best of Luck me old Buster Cool
Report Coachbuster October 11, 2014 9:11 PM BST
trading would be better if there was more life on here ,but it's gone very flat of late Cry

was renting with my ladyfriend but have now bought house outright - couldn't afford the rent really ,and i wasn't able to do my repairs which i can do now  Happy


hope you have a good gambling weekend ,England tomorrow  Happy
Report Mc Moonbeam October 11, 2014 9:25 PM BST
ahh good on you mate Happy it's still cheaper to buy even if you sell after a couple years , i was in a similar position just needed a place to live , but you do kinda feel trapped after a while Plain

I agree nobody talks or shares anything on here  Sad

I'll have a look before predicting the England score Happy gl mate !
Report pumphol. October 11, 2014 11:13 PM BST
Cheers Coach & Moon, very strange game 7-0 3 goals first 15 min & 4 the first 10 min second half & an hour with no goals at all Crazy
Report SlippyBlue October 12, 2014 4:58 PM BST
Estonia v England.

I fancy under 2.5 at the price of 2.04. Hope to get to half time 0-0 and then get rid. That's plan A anyway.Laugh
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 5:46 PM BST
Brave bet Slippy but England are so dire looks good now

I'm on 0-2 but only small stakes , not holding my breath , i'd probably have an asthma attack Scared
Report pumphol. October 12, 2014 5:53 PM BST
ok just before kick off

England 1-0 6.8
England 2-0 6.2

After 20 min

England 1-0 4.8
England 2-0 5.1

Quite a large drop for 1-0 & if it was 1-0 after 20 min  2-0 would have been shorter than 6.2 anyway

Amazing how prices drop immediately after KO yes a very early goal you could be struggling but  if you pick & choose your matches you should not get stung too often.
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 6:02 PM BST
Pumpy this system will generally Not win Long term with Away games , but yes prices like 2-0 start to come in even if it stays 0-0 , but early goals are always the danger Wink
Report SlippyBlue October 12, 2014 6:03 PM BST
Christ this is pathetic. I'm hanging on for a bit longer, under 2.5 is 1.25, looks an absolute shoo in.
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 6:05 PM BST
Have you been betting the American Football this year slippy Confused

I only started betting it last year so wanted to have a fair go at it this year but the season seems to go so fast , value all seems to be gone already for the outrights Plain
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 6:08 PM BST
10 men now ... WE HAVE A CHANCE Blush
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 6:13 PM BST
Just to clarify ..
I will never bet scores heavily on away games .. doesn't matter whether it's premiership etc .. just don't get involved with Away games !!
Report SlippyBlue October 12, 2014 6:19 PM BST
I absolutely love NFL McM, I'll watch Dallas @ Seattle later but I haven't really seen too many games recently to be honest. I've got other stuff on my plate to concern myself with at the moment but I will watch this. Seattle -8 is my punt.

I have taken my stake back on the unders @ 1.17 just in case but I doubt if there will be more than 1 goal in this despite the sending off.
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 6:29 PM BST
Yep that's wise , this football i have no interest in at all tbh, so just take any profit from it

NFL is much more fun to watch but a shame there's only 1 or 2 live games per week (i can watch online but the money is up for the live games - which i do quite well on)

I'm on Bengals/Dolphins double , Bengals losing 0-7 though Mischief
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 6:51 PM BST
used my green to cover 1-0 for a £34.50 win Grin
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 6:52 PM BST
BENGALS 14-7 Cool
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 8:41 PM BST
slippy a silly question but do i lose my bet if they tie & win in overtime  ?

Not used to doing Nfl bets at bookies
Report SlippyBlue October 12, 2014 8:43 PM BST
If they win in overtime you win.
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 8:45 PM BST
ah ok Thanks , wasn't sure if they'd half my bet etc Blush
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 9:04 PM BST
Level again

Layed some off @ 1.26 Happy
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 9:06 PM BST
Bengals are a dodgy team
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 9:12 PM BST
Bought it back again , lol

This is why i don't understand NFL

1.33 pre kick off 

34-31   & now they're 1.45 Confused
Report SlippyBlue October 12, 2014 9:23 PM BST
34-34 what a game.
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 9:32 PM BST
yep will let it ride now , covered a few quid but not much

double was Bengals/Seahawks btw .. not Dolphins Plain

Will watch the live game later , who do you fancy Eagles/Giants , gotta be Eagles at home imo Happy
Report Mc Moonbeam October 12, 2014 9:32 PM BST
am watching online
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