I post on there

Given the ISIS method of not giving a toss about what anybody says, anybody who goes out there to help is a sandwich short of a picnic, even more so if they have a worrying family at home here in the UK.

'So now he is a legend, when he would have preferred to be a man.'

Jacqueline Kennedy.

ta pugmunter and you seem the same

i am reasonable headed altho sometimes let myself down with a few daft outbursts (alcohol related)

which a few folk on here love to play on!

gery - see my fred re tv faces from the past. Appreciate your input

Very sad news. Was always likely to happen once we voted for military action in parliament. I think we have to face up to the likelihood of the other hostages being lost as well. We need cool heads, a considered strategy and then after all due consideration knock the bejeesus out of these barbarians.

Gery's such a nice guy , he's now the voice of all reason on this forum Pug

cheers lads appreciate it

will stick up a thread about it then

You hear many saying that one never hears Muslims in this country condemning the likes of ISIS but I`m sure they do so in private. To do so publicly would be committing suicide. I don`t think internment would be feasible. Apart from that, the Isle Of Wight couldn`t hold them all.

A few thoughts on this:

1.    Once a group starts beheading UK civilians, we have to take the fkers out.
2.    Extending IS’s/ISIS's actions to all Muslims shows lazy thinking, innumeracy (no. of terrorist killings vs. number of Muslims etc.), and some sort of frustration.
3.    There’s no conspiracy here, but the British and US governments might well be secretly licking their lips at this.

Joking aside my point isn't really about the muslims. It's at least partially about calling the government's bluff when they embark on yet another expedition having ramped up the propaganda. People should be raising these issues when they go overboard about these threats. Sure we are at risk of some terrorist activity as we were during the 70's and 80's with the IRA. Life went on pretty nuch normally as it should and we should look at this with a clear head. If the situation really is as dire as government suggests then bringing in such parallels from history shows them up for being liars, wimps or feeble.

the geordie guys story about the russian way was of interest.thats the sort of thing id back.i have no compassion when it comes to this subject .we need to be totally ruthless to stamp this isas out

wouldn't it be nice if muslims just shrugged their shoulders collectively in the mosques and said - we may have been a bit out of it and now we are going to integrate and be part of british life

instead some 9 percent in one poll said they didn't see anything much wrong with islamic violence
yes a poll in THIS country

Psychos get drawn to violence, and use causes, religious or otherwise, to justify their actions, even though they don't follow any rules, religious or civil.
If there was no religion, no poverty, no suffering these psychopaths would still jump into any possible trouble and escalate it.

just read in the guardian police were called to a dispute between parents and the head who is trying to intoduce diversity - of course no proper details about who it was

Welford a school with 'nearly all children from minority ethnic heritages'
Of course the guardian doesn't speak plain english but mentions the head in favour of CHIPS challenging homophobia in primary schools!!!

New speak for acceptance of equality for gays etc - I bet that went down well with muslims!!

portmanpark 03 Oct 14 22:29 
they must know this guy........round up his family and drop them off a cliff

So by that logic all of Mick Philpott's surviving offspring should be thrown off a Cliff, after all he did slaughter 5 innocent children.

And that was just one example.

and so it will go on, the more we interfere, the more terrorists will breed.

i think the family should come out and denounce this maniac

dr . atkins    04 Oct 14 12:49 
i do not want that coward from is to die we must do all we can to get him alive you know he will want to martyr himself


Personally  I think this s c u m b a g if caught &  was put through what he has done to his victims would probably wail like a baby & beg for mercy, martyr himself? I doubt it, if he wanted to be martyred he would have shown his face & suffer the consequences, this c0ckroach would crawl under a rock & hide at the first sign of trouble.

Very much doubt that this murderous criminal will ever be captured. Will probably be sent on his way to his imaginary paradise by a drone strike or a military hit squad.
He probably won't even know what hit him which many will judge as being too quick and clean.

Feel for the family of Alan Henning. So much unnecessary suffering.

RIP Alan..

A few thoughts...

1) killing of aid workers is I'm afraid nothing new. You tube videos are though and hence the wider outrage. I worked for a charity years ago in a far eastern nation and had to sign a disclaimer.. The charity (which was undercover using a different name) would have abandoned me if I was caught. That was the arrangement and I was 'happy' to sign.

2) Eid is going on this weekend. The ritual beheading of lambs by members of the public who in the sight of their children decapitate the animals. Muslims aren't as squemish as the rest of us..

3) A friend in Morrocco emailed me yesterday said that hearing the screams of the lambs and seeing all the blood in the streets was more like 1314 AD not 2014 AD

4) We decapitate people but not with knives or swords. We used bombs/missiles. The cheapest of which on a Tornado is I believe £30k. Missiles do a lot worse than take one's head off.. This NEVER gets reported despite many of the victims being civilians....

5) Spoke with an old gent this morning who felt sad for Alan but made the point that we WERE bombing them...so not sure what we could expect...