Ed Miliband's conference speech.

I didn't watch the speech but I read the Independent's comment. Here's the last para:

"For the rest, I thought it was lamentable, weak, clichéd, embarrassing, uninspiring, stylistically inept, vacuous, unambitious, grandiose, cringeworthy, patronising, foolish, an unappetising blend of impossiblism and incrementalism, and a complete and final disaster for the Labour Party."

They weren't impressed then

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http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/let-me-list-everything-and-anything-that-was-positive-about-ed-milibands-speech-9751433.html

Have they lost direction, seems to me they have.

A new leader is much needed.

Toward the end he literally gurned, almost as if suffering a painful bout of constipation, and whined: "Friends, I will appoint Michael Cashman to lead the government’s work in promoting gay rights across the globe."

Well, thank heavens for that, we can all sleep easy in our beds now.  What a crock of shít.

I read somewhere that someone watched it with the sound off and it still made them angry.

Why does he think that British taxpayers want to promote gay rights across the globe?

Embarrasingly out of his depth.
And he's the best they've got!

I really don't understand how he got the job over his brother, a much more capable chap imvhaho. Union appeasement wasn't it, something like that?

As policemonster says this wonk could be the next prime minister...
Dave still has a bit of time to pull some rabbits out of the hat ...hopefully there are people talking to Farrage and a deal will be struck and also he needs to move quickly to sideline the Scottish mps...

The frightening thought of Balls,the harridan Harman , the witch Cooper and the Scot Alexander exercising power for five years just doesn't bear thinking about...this country will be on life support with the rest of the world clamouring for it to be switched off.

no matter what he says, I keep thinking doesnt he look like a camel

If Labour had any sense they would bin him right now even at this late stage. He's never going to be prime minister even with a coalition. Come the day people will desert Labour in their droves. He's absolutely pathetic.

Let’s be very clear about this. You’ve asked me a question. And I get that. Absolutely. But let me just make this point. If what you’re asking me is, Why do I have this habit of answering questions by asking myself a completely different question, then I’ve got to tell you: I think that’s the right thing to do.

There isn’t a simple answer to that issue. But I will say this. You know, we’ve got to look at all these things. That’s why I say to you what I do. And I think that’s the right thing to do for the everyday working people of Britain, up and down this country.

And I've listened to an everyday working person, because I think that’s the right thing to do, and to that person I said this. I said, “I’ve listened to what you’ve got to say, and I think you’ve made some incredibly important points. But let me just say this. I think we’ve got to look at all the issues, and do change in the right way, because otherwise, we’ll be learning the wrong lessons.”

ha ha , quality ,this shadow health guy is worse than the camel,andy get your scripts and burnham

They will dump Miliband and Harman will take over and lead Labour to a huge victory.

Blimey HHSV, that's uncanny.

Another comment I've just read.

He couldn't organize a panic on a sinking ship.

A very passionate and enthusiastic and very intelligent guy. The second  half of his speech  -,starting with the NHS commitment - was very good. He had a heartfelt belief in Labour and what it can do for this country. The Tories have torn the uk apart, and split the people of this country into the haves and have nots. And then conned the have nots by being divisive and telling them it's the immigrants and benefit cheats that have caused all the woes.
The bankers and fat cats are bleeding this country dry. Multi billions of pounds are being stolen from this country by tax evading capitalists  who couldn't give a shlt beyond making themselves as rich as possible. Meanwhile more and more food banks are being created across the country.

facts very good,but he does look like a camel

Well if he's a very intelligent guy how come he forgot to mention the economy and also immigration in his speech .

No wonder Neil Kinnock sings his praises...both of them are ****s

little chance of him winning if you ask me. be like 1992 all over again when at the moment of truth people couldn't face voting for kinnock

Labour = The Peado Apologist Party

Who in their right mind would vote for them?

He's an actor and a not very good one either.

very good Sultan, that's him to a tee.

Is n't Cashman the bloke who used to be in Eastenders? Why does Moribund think the UK has to be in the vanguard of a global drive for gay rights? Let the rest of the world find their own way as we did. Or send Cashman to Russia and see how he gets on trying to impose our culture there. Patronising creep.

perhaps Russia could appoint someone to lead the global drive against paedophilia and send them here...

The Cashman thing is simply staggering.

What is it with the obsession for gay 'rights'??

I fear many people will fall for his promise of more money despite Labour's track record of leaving the country's finances butchered every time they leave office.

Obsession is the right word

he'll certainly have an up hill task

Multi billions of pounds are being stolen from this country by tax evading capitalists

Everyone would agree (except the tories) that the loopholes need to be closed, but Brown and Darling did f*** all about it for 13 years, so
what magic formula have they found that makes them think they can carry this out in their first year of office?

Efficiency savings, economic growth and closing tax loopholes are the standard lies politicians use to explain how they will fund spending they cant afford.

Its funny though how the Tories get the blame for not closing loopholes when they have made more effort in one term than Labour ever did in 3. Of course when they do close them they tend to raise far less than the Public have been lead to believe by the people who think they are the solution to everything.

25-30% of all income tax collected comes from the top 1% of earners.

No wonder the rich are pissed off and want to hide some of it. I don't blame them in the slightest.

Would Milliband tax lottery wins over £1m+ at 50%??

No, thought not....

The tories did get some money back from Jimmy Carr and Take That so at least they did better than Brown and Darling.

wouldnt really want to be the leader of this country with what economic mess is going to hit us in the next few years

Labour have always been a one trick pony.
Simply spend money they haven't got.
It doesn't work for people or businesses so why should it work for a government.

had to laugh at his comments about the tories wrecking the nhs in 4 years. Anyone would think labour left it in rude health. You would think that under labour the hospitals weren't ridden with mrsa or that mid staffs didn't happen on their watch. Or that they didn't flood the country with immigrants putting a huge strain on the service. Not to mention that many of the privatisations they berate the tories for started under labour.

How Many PFI hospital disasters were there under Labour?

Wasn't it under them that you also had PFI maintenance contracts where it was costing the taxpayer £400 quid for the subcontractor to change a lightbulb and the like?

How quickly people forget how utterly useless they were....

Labour party=Amnesia party.

The Health Service in Wales is shambolic - under a Labour administration.

Whenever Question Time goes to wales the main subject of local conversation seems to revolve around what a complete mess Labour have made of the NHS there.

Brilliant by HH Sultan Vinegar

The agents for Bird and Fortune will be contacting the Sultan's agent to discuss writing fees.
Or they would if they were alive.

Excellent your highness

Miliband's party seems to want to promote gay rights, but his party believes adult ****s should not be permitted to share premises for the purpose of safety, companionship and practicality.
He's not a team man, and will struggle to make a workable coalition given that he can't get along with his brother or keep his best MPs in the Shadow Cabinet but he is intelligent, that's for sure.

As a socialist I hang my head in shame.  But then, when was Labour ever socialist?
Stuffed full of professional politicoes.

can't have him on my mind. As Ken said, he would never have been leader were it not for the party unionists, and they should have had the foresight to have seen that he was highly unelectable.

the whole speech was absolute garbage from start to finish

surely a tosspot like that cannot get elected next year

In a way it's quite ironic that the unions, the most socialist part of Labour, put the deputy head boy policy wonk in charge and so managed to make Labour even less electable and more useless, without actually moving it any further to the left. Well done :)

hadn't realised how many sensible posters there were on betfair until reading through this thread......trouble is i'm not convinced we're representative of the voting male population.The thought of Milliband being elected as pm scares the living daylights out of me.

he would never have been leader were it not for the party unionists,

There would be no labour without unions, not just this leader

Milliband, the only man who can talk for an hour,
And make it seem like two...lol

Sultans post was good but i read almost exactly the same this morning from one of the papers .. he may have read it too and got the inspiration ... nevertheless a woeful dismal effort from Ed as he was walking of with his wife you could see he knew he had screwed up ..

posy     24 Sep 14 21:18 
hadn't realised how many sensible posters there were on betfair until reading through this thread......trouble is i'm not convinced we're representative of the voting male population.The thought of Milliband being elected as pm scares the living daylights out of me.



And your ' sensible posters '  scare the living day lights out of me. The Tories have done an excellent divisive job on all of you ..But no matter, the majority of right minded people know better, which is why the Labour Party will be governing the country after the election. NAP

The tories will never run this country in our lifetime,there's a strong possibility boris johnsons going to be leader ffs,really is laughable the time when people of this country voted conservative has gone a long time ago,the majority of people in Britain today are slightly left of centre!Unlike on losing gambling forums where middle aged men who are very much to the right spend their time living in the 70s...

This here Facts chappie smells a bit off to me. Anybody waxing lyrical about Milliband shouldn't be trusted.

Put it in perspective and remove all your right wing i love thatcher and want to be dominated by a rather butch woman fantasies.
It was a speech without notes prompts or any artificial aids,most of you coonts would need notes to find the clitoris on your deluxe lifelike margaret in her schoolgirl uniform blow up doll.

Most of us would need a satnav, a davy lamp and a torque wrench to find the clitoris on anything - sentient or otherwise.

The fact that it was a speech without notes does not make it a good speech.
And although the Tories fall far short in making a fair and just society that does not make Ed Milliband and his policies a viable alternative.

Perhaps if Miliband had used notes he might have remembered to mention our immigration problems, particularly its role in the recent child abuse national scandal.  In his defence, though, I fully understand how the urgent needs of British lesbians around the globe could cause such things to slip his mind.

God help us all.

I remember Michael Foot - in fact watched him grow into labour leadership role (he was only a few inches when I first noticed him) and Ed M makes him look stellar.
Why do the socialists not want to win the next election?
Answer - they're doing very nicely as it is, thank you taxpayer (and of course their banker mates, who did very very well under the last labour govt).
We're doomed, I tell you, doomed.

Miliband is a true man of the people unlike rich Tories. He only has one 2 million pound house.

c4 news running a story on a pfi scandal that has led to deaths in birmingham. Signed off by labour.

Staggering how incompetent labour are here.

A perfect example of how clueless they are across the board here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Dx8HkCt1c

c4 news running a story on a pfi scandal that has led to deaths in birmingham. Signed off by labour.

Staggering how incompetent labour are here.

A perfect example of how clueless they are across the board here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Dx8HkCt1c

Great video

TOGETHER

What a bunch of muppets.

Shysters the lot of them.

You were correct about the guava, Foinavon.  My apologies, sir.

No apologies needed Pokermonster, it's only a name for a fruit.

The Labour party come over as well meaning amateurs.

I had lunch yesterday with a dyed in the wool labour voter however he says he'll vote conservative at the election as he couldn't live with himself if muppet Miliband became prime minister.

fair play to him.
I shudder to think what will happen if the gurning idiot ever gets the keys to number 10

just be replacing another gurning idiot

Millipede doesn't mention immigration.

And Oily Cameron picks today to call back the house for a yak on Iraq, on the same day that Farage starts his conference.