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Pokermonster
24 Sep 14 09:56
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Even by his dire standards that speech was abysmal.  It was so embarrassingly cringeworthy I could hardly bear to watch, who's told him to keep saying "friends" every few minutes?  He comes across as sincere as a double-glazing salesman.

One brief moment of levity for me came when he criticized David Cameron by saying "I’ve got a better idea, come this May, let’s give him all the time he needs for surfing and angry birds and tennis with the Russian oligarchs by sending him into opposition."  Coming from the presumably busy leader of the opposition, I found that comment rather amusing.

If the polls are to be believed this man will be our next prime minister.  It's an horrendous prospect.

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By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 24 Sep 14 10:13
I didn't watch the speech but I read the Independent's comment. Here's the last para:

"For the rest, I thought it was lamentable, weak, clichéd, embarrassing, uninspiring, stylistically inept, vacuous, unambitious, grandiose, cringeworthy, patronising, foolish, an unappetising blend of impossiblism and incrementalism, and a complete and final disaster for the Labour Party."

They weren't impressed then Laugh

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http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/let-me-list-everything-and-anything-that-was-positive-about-ed-milibands-speech-9751433.html
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 24 Sep 14 10:18
Have they lost direction, seems to me they have.

A new leader is much needed.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 24 Sep 14 10:22
Toward the end he literally gurned, almost as if suffering a painful bout of constipation, and whined: "Friends, I will appoint Michael Cashman to lead the government’s work in promoting gay rights across the globe."

Well, thank heavens for that, we can all sleep easy in our beds now.  What a crock of shít.
By:
bigmo
When: 24 Sep 14 10:42
I read somewhere that someone watched it with the sound off and it still made them angry.
By:
Arleystation
When: 24 Sep 14 11:00
Why does he think that British taxpayers want to promote gay rights across the globe?
By:
bix
When: 24 Sep 14 11:08
Embarrasingly out of his depth.
And he's the best they've got!
By:
Ken Masters
When: 24 Sep 14 11:12
I really don't understand how he got the job over his brother, a much more capable chap imvhaho. Union appeasement wasn't it, something like that?
By:
posy
When: 24 Sep 14 11:30
As policemonster says this wonk could be the next prime minister...
Dave still has a bit of time to pull some rabbits out of the hat ...hopefully there are people talking to Farrage and a deal will be struck and also he needs to move quickly to sideline the Scottish mps...

The frightening thought of Balls,the harridan Harman , the witch Cooper and the Scot Alexander exercising power for five years just doesn't bear thinking about...this country will be on life support with the rest of the world clamouring for it to be switched off.
By:
yorky
When: 24 Sep 14 11:37
no matter what he says, I keep thinking doesnt he look like a camel
By:
Geesyerdosh
When: 24 Sep 14 11:48
If Labour had any sense they would bin him right now even at this late stage. He's never going to be prime minister even with a coalition. Come the day people will desert Labour in their droves. He's absolutely pathetic.
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 24 Sep 14 11:51
Let’s be very clear about this. You’ve asked me a question. And I get that. Absolutely. But let me just make this point. If what you’re asking me is, Why do I have this habit of answering questions by asking myself a completely different question, then I’ve got to tell you: I think that’s the right thing to do.

There isn’t a simple answer to that issue. But I will say this. You know, we’ve got to look at all these things. That’s why I say to you what I do. And I think that’s the right thing to do for the everyday working people of Britain, up and down this country.

And I've listened to an everyday working person, because I think that’s the right thing to do, and to that person I said this. I said, “I’ve listened to what you’ve got to say, and I think you’ve made some incredibly important points. But let me just say this. I think we’ve got to look at all the issues, and do change in the right way, because otherwise, we’ll be learning the wrong lessons.”
By:
yorky
When: 24 Sep 14 11:55
ha ha , quality ,this shadow health guy is worse than the camel,andy get your scripts and burnham
By:
Dotchinite
When: 24 Sep 14 11:58
They will dump Miliband and Harman will take over and lead Labour to a huge victory.
By:
Ken Masters
When: 24 Sep 14 12:05
Blimey HHSV, that's uncanny.
By:
bigmo
When: 24 Sep 14 12:11
Another comment I've just read.

He couldn't organize a panic on a sinking ship.
By:
Facts
When: 24 Sep 14 12:34
A very passionate and enthusiastic and very intelligent guy. The second  half of his speech  -,starting with the NHS commitment - was very good. He had a heartfelt belief in Labour and what it can do for this country. The Tories have torn the uk apart, and split the people of this country into the haves and have nots. And then conned the have nots by being divisive and telling them it's the immigrants and benefit cheats that have caused all the woes.
The bankers and fat cats are bleeding this country dry. Multi billions of pounds are being stolen from this country by tax evading capitalists  who couldn't give a shlt beyond making themselves as rich as possible. Meanwhile more and more food banks are being created across the country.
By:
yorky
When: 24 Sep 14 12:36
facts very good,but he does look like a camel
By:
posy
When: 24 Sep 14 12:54
Well if he's a very intelligent guy how come he forgot to mention the economy and also immigration in his speech .

No wonder Neil Kinnock sings his praises...both of them are ****s
By:
mafeking
When: 24 Sep 14 12:55
little chance of him winning if you ask me. be like 1992 all over again when at the moment of truth people couldn't face voting for kinnock
By:
Tallywagger.
When: 24 Sep 14 13:17
Labour = The Peado Apologist Party

Who in their right mind would vote for them?
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 24 Sep 14 13:34
He's an actor and a not very good one either.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 24 Sep 14 16:40
very good Sultan, that's him to a tee.

Is n't Cashman the bloke who used to be in Eastenders? Why does Moribund think the UK has to be in the vanguard of a global drive for gay rights? Let the rest of the world find their own way as we did. Or send Cashman to Russia and see how he gets on trying to impose our culture there. Patronising creep.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 24 Sep 14 16:44
perhaps Russia could appoint someone to lead the global drive against paedophilia and send them here...
By:
Injera
When: 24 Sep 14 17:06
The Cashman thing is simply staggering.

What is it with the obsession for gay 'rights'??

I fear many people will fall for his promise of more money despite Labour's track record of leaving the country's finances butchered every time they leave office.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 24 Sep 14 17:10
Obsession is the right word
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 24 Sep 14 17:15
he'll certainly have an up hill task
By:
mad mad moon
When: 24 Sep 14 17:19
Multi billions of pounds are being stolen from this country by tax evading capitalists

Everyone would agree (except the tories) that the loopholes need to be closed, but Brown and Darling did f*** all about it for 13 years, so
what magic formula have they found that makes them think they can carry this out in their first year of office?
By:
Dotchinite
When: 24 Sep 14 17:26
Efficiency savings, economic growth and closing tax loopholes are the standard lies politicians use to explain how they will fund spending they cant afford.

Its funny though how the Tories get the blame for not closing loopholes when they have made more effort in one term than Labour ever did in 3. Of course when they do close them they tend to raise far less than the Public have been lead to believe by the people who think they are the solution to everything.
By:
Injera
When: 24 Sep 14 17:27
25-30% of all income tax collected comes from the top 1% of earners.

No wonder the rich are pissed off and want to hide some of it. I don't blame them in the slightest.

Would Milliband tax lottery wins over £1m+ at 50%??

No, thought not....
By:
mad mad moon
When: 24 Sep 14 17:33
The tories did get some money back from Jimmy Carr and Take That so at least they did better than Brown and Darling.
By:
GAZO
When: 24 Sep 14 17:43
wouldnt really want to be the leader of this country with what economic mess is going to hit us in the next few years
By:
bix
When: 24 Sep 14 17:44
Labour have always been a one trick pony.
Simply spend money they haven't got.
It doesn't work for people or businesses so why should it work for a government.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 24 Sep 14 19:01
had to laugh at his comments about the tories wrecking the nhs in 4 years. Anyone would think labour left it in rude health. You would think that under labour the hospitals weren't ridden with mrsa or that mid staffs didn't happen on their watch. Or that they didn't flood the country with immigrants putting a huge strain on the service. Not to mention that many of the privatisations they berate the tories for started under labour.
By:
Just Checking
When: 24 Sep 14 19:10
How Many PFI hospital disasters were there under Labour?

Wasn't it under them that you also had PFI maintenance contracts where it was costing the taxpayer £400 quid for the subcontractor to change a lightbulb and the like?

How quickly people forget how utterly useless they were.... Cry
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 24 Sep 14 19:41
Labour party=Amnesia party.
By:
Arleystation
When: 24 Sep 14 20:01
The Health Service in Wales is shambolic - under a Labour administration.
By:
Just Checking
When: 24 Sep 14 20:05
Whenever Question Time goes to wales the main subject of local conversation seems to revolve around what a complete mess Labour have made of the NHS there.
By:
bongo
When: 24 Sep 14 20:05
Brilliant by HH Sultan Vinegar

The agents for Bird and Fortune will be contacting the Sultan's agent to discuss writing fees.
Or they would if they were alive.

Excellent your highness
By:
bongo
When: 24 Sep 14 20:12
Miliband's party seems to want to promote gay rights, but his party believes adult ****s should not be permitted to share premises for the purpose of safety, companionship and practicality.
He's not a team man, and will struggle to make a workable coalition given that he can't get along with his brother or keep his best MPs in the Shadow Cabinet but he is intelligent, that's for sure.
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