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treble
06 Sep 14 22:36
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Again we'll never know 100%, but if this story is above board, it seems pretty compelling and about the closest to a definite we are going to get. I have always thought it was Kosminski anyway.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746321/Jack-Ripper-unmasked-How-amateur-sleuth-used-DNA-breakthrough-identify-Britains-notorious-criminal-126-years-string-terrible-murders.html
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Report Facts September 6, 2014 10:38 PM BST
The Daily Mail - who would have guessed ?
Report guinness2dear September 6, 2014 10:41 PM BST
A Pole - who would have thunk it..
Report akabula September 6, 2014 10:41 PM BST
Is Bob Vegas a direct descendant of him?
Report akabula September 6, 2014 10:45 PM BST
It's like Bible John in Glasgow.
Fortunes made, being made and still to be made writing about it.
We'll never know.
Report charwell. September 6, 2014 10:52 PM BST
It was James Maybrick.

HTH.
Report akabula September 6, 2014 11:02 PM BST
Guy a few years ago got named as Bible John in the Sunday Mail by someone he went to school with
The basis of the accusation was that he wore military ties similar to Bible John.
So did a lot of males as they were in fashion at the time ffs. Laugh
Report thegiggilo September 6, 2014 11:33 PM BST
Where did the mail get this evidence from the ''elms house'' squad...Shocked
Report charwell. September 6, 2014 11:42 PM BST
See about 3 of these each year, whenever anybody has written a book!
Report call me a taxi September 7, 2014 12:50 AM BST
Facts
06 Sep 14 22:38   
The Daily Mail - who would have guessed ?


Would it be true if it was in The Guardian?
Report Facts September 7, 2014 1:17 AM BST
But it wasn't was it !
Report DStyle September 7, 2014 1:42 AM BST
coming over here, taking our jobs, murdering our prostitutes.....

vote ukip
Report themightymac September 7, 2014 1:47 AM BST
It was alleged that Bible John was that b****** who murdered that poor Polish girl.
Report thegiggilo September 7, 2014 1:50 AM BST
I blame the tories they're usually involved!ShockedSilly
Report themightymac September 7, 2014 1:55 AM BST
All unsolved serious crimes are committed by Tories. They have the contacts to quite literally get away with murder. The old school tie brigade. Prime examples being Jack The Ripper and more recently Lord Lucan.
Report thegiggilo September 7, 2014 2:02 AM BST
You'll be telling me jimmy saville used to spend Christmas with thatcher next!!Cool
Report charwell. September 7, 2014 11:32 AM BST
...or Sir Cliff Richard used to enjoy a yuletide log.
Report Facts September 7, 2014 11:51 AM BST
This Tory governments policies have been ultimately responsible for many people dying in the UK.
Report Ramruma September 7, 2014 12:27 PM BST
The irony is, they've now proved it was the chap the police collared back in 1888!
Report lybertyne September 7, 2014 12:31 PM BST
No doubt a slew of books and films will now emerge to speculate on his personality and motivation. I have no wish to do so.


Followed by:

Naming Jack The Ripper,  by Russell Edwards, will be  published by Sidgwick & Jackson on September 9, priced £16.99.
Report lybertyne September 7, 2014 12:58 PM BST
The evidence links Kosminski to one crime scene only.  We don't know that the shawl originally belonged to him.  Semen found near a prostitute is hardly surprising.  If this was today, I reckon a good lawyer would get him acquitted of murder.

He mentions the Michaelmas dates of 29th September and 8th November as being the nights of two murders (Catherine Eddowes and Mary Jane Kelly).  I suppose it depends on how you look at it but Eddowes was killed in the early hours of the 30th September and Kelly just before dawn on the 9th November.

It's generally agreed that the Ripper had some medical knowledge.  There's nothing to suggest that Kosminski had medical knowledge.
Report Room 0182 September 7, 2014 1:20 PM BST
"All unsolved serious crimes are committed by Tories."

GrinGrinGrinGrin

It was Maggie wot dun it Laugh
Report pumphol. September 7, 2014 1:26 PM BST
charwell.    06 Sep 14 22:52 
It was James Maybrick.

HTH.

Not really but your detailed reasoning could persuade me otherwise
Report Sica Dan September 7, 2014 1:44 PM BST
It was Malcolm McDowell and he escaped to the present day in
the HG Wells time machine.
Report Ramruma September 7, 2014 2:01 PM BST
The Daily Mail photo of the author holding the shawl without gloves suggests the silly sod might have cross-contaminated the thing himself.
Report Cobblaz September 7, 2014 6:47 PM BST
but if this story is above board

Hmmm...a shawl that was supposedly left beside the body of a murder victim, in filthy conditions when it was p1ssing down with rain, and 126 years later appears to be remarkably clean despite never having been washed. I smell something fishy, and I'm not talking about the contents of Baldrick's apple crumble.
Report ThunderRoad September 7, 2014 8:19 PM BST
I always thought it was Tumblety, but this proves it beyond reasonable doubt IMO.
Report acquiesce12 September 7, 2014 8:34 PM BST
ah, it's the annual "Jack the Ripper mystery is solved again", time of the year is it.
Report the bairn September 7, 2014 10:57 PM BST
maybe it's the real Richard 111, cheers.
Report Cobblaz September 8, 2014 12:05 AM BST
I always thought it was Tumblety, but this proves it beyond reasonable doubt IMO.

Please don't go anywhere near a jury pool
Report Eeternaloptimist September 8, 2014 12:27 AM BST
He won't reveal the details of the relative who provided the DNA sample and this mysterious doctor invented this hoovering technique. I reckon this fella is the one trying to do the hoovering.
Report Clouseau September 8, 2014 12:33 AM BST
Cancel all CCDA leave.
Looking at those mugshots in the link I want the Duke of Clarence, Sir William Gull, Walter Sickert, John Pizer,(Shoemaker) George Chapman, (Barber) and Aaron Kosminski (Hairdresser) all brought in for questioning about any unsolved crime.

A more guilty looking bunch of wrong'uns I have never seen.... nb search the barber and the hairdresser's gaffs for purple hair dye.Plain
Report thegiggilo September 8, 2014 12:44 AM BST
All with cliff at elms house on night of murders apparently,with leon!!Shocked
Report i_agree_with_nick November 17, 2014 6:53 PM GMT
Documentary on Ch5, 8pm tonight.
Report salmon spray November 17, 2014 7:54 PM GMT
Sickert or the mad Duke imo.
Report scandanavian_haven November 17, 2014 8:46 PM GMT
Looks indisputable
Report ebulGery November 17, 2014 10:23 PM GMT
Channel 5 put up a very case for Charles Allen Lechmere as the Riper tonight
he was found by body of Polley Nichols..but it was all circumstantial

Very difficult to deny evidence that places DNA of killer and victim on one rug

Find this statement unlikely though

But could the Ripper have brought the shawl with him and left it as an obscure clue about when he was planning to strike next?

Only serial killers from fiction do that, he may have left it because he could not risk taking it away, seems better to me

seems to clinch it, hard to deny DNA
Report maleuk01. November 24, 2014 9:29 PM GMT
just watched the documentary on ch5.

It does seem a strong case for it being lechmere.

Was actually at one of the murder scences, and then lied about name etc.

And his walk to work or his mums house took him past every murder.
Report maleuk01. November 24, 2014 9:33 PM GMT
but do serial killers just stp? and carry on a normal life.

The show didnt explain if him why would he just stop killing.
Report i_agree_with_nick February 25, 2015 8:05 PM GMT
New documentary tonight at 9 on Ch 5
Report Mikael D'Haguenet February 25, 2015 8:13 PM GMT
CMAT is familiar with that area. Just sayin'.
Report i_agree_with_nick February 25, 2015 8:15 PM GMT
Whitechapel is in Tower Hamlets (not Newham)
Report Mikael D'Haguenet February 25, 2015 8:20 PM GMT
It's all facking Landan ain't it?
Report guinness2dear February 25, 2015 8:24 PM GMT
It's called Mussyland now, apparently..
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