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06 Sep 14 22:36
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Again we'll never know 100%, but if this story is above board, it seems pretty compelling and about the closest to a definite we are going to get. I have always thought it was Kosminski anyway.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746321/Jack-Ripper-unmasked-How-amateur-sleuth-used-DNA-breakthrough-identify-Britains-notorious-criminal-126-years-string-terrible-murders.html

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By:
Facts
When: 06 Sep 14 22:38
The Daily Mail - who would have guessed ?
By:
guinness2dear
When: 06 Sep 14 22:41
A Pole - who would have thunk it..
By:
akabula
When: 06 Sep 14 22:41
Is Bob Vegas a direct descendant of him?
By:
akabula
When: 06 Sep 14 22:45
It's like Bible John in Glasgow.
Fortunes made, being made and still to be made writing about it.
We'll never know.
By:
charwell.
When: 06 Sep 14 22:52
It was James Maybrick.

HTH.
By:
akabula
When: 06 Sep 14 23:02
Guy a few years ago got named as Bible John in the Sunday Mail by someone he went to school with
The basis of the accusation was that he wore military ties similar to Bible John.
So did a lot of males as they were in fashion at the time ffs. Laugh
By:
thegiggilo
When: 06 Sep 14 23:33
Where did the mail get this evidence from the ''elms house'' squad...Shocked
By:
charwell.
When: 06 Sep 14 23:42
See about 3 of these each year, whenever anybody has written a book!
By:
call me a taxi
When: 07 Sep 14 00:50
Facts
06 Sep 14 22:38   
The Daily Mail - who would have guessed ?


Would it be true if it was in The Guardian?
By:
Facts
When: 07 Sep 14 01:17
But it wasn't was it !
By:
DStyle
When: 07 Sep 14 01:42
coming over here, taking our jobs, murdering our prostitutes.....

vote ukip
By:
themightymac
When: 07 Sep 14 01:47
It was alleged that Bible John was that b****** who murdered that poor Polish girl.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 07 Sep 14 01:50
I blame the tories they're usually involved!ShockedSilly
By:
themightymac
When: 07 Sep 14 01:55
All unsolved serious crimes are committed by Tories. They have the contacts to quite literally get away with murder. The old school tie brigade. Prime examples being Jack The Ripper and more recently Lord Lucan.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 07 Sep 14 02:02
You'll be telling me jimmy saville used to spend Christmas with thatcher next!!Cool
By:
charwell.
When: 07 Sep 14 11:32
...or Sir Cliff Richard used to enjoy a yuletide log.
By:
Facts
When: 07 Sep 14 11:51
This Tory governments policies have been ultimately responsible for many people dying in the UK.
By:
Ramruma
When: 07 Sep 14 12:27
The irony is, they've now proved it was the chap the police collared back in 1888!
By:
lybertyne
When: 07 Sep 14 12:31
No doubt a slew of books and films will now emerge to speculate on his personality and motivation. I have no wish to do so.


Followed by:

Naming Jack The Ripper,  by Russell Edwards, will be  published by Sidgwick & Jackson on September 9, priced £16.99.
By:
lybertyne
When: 07 Sep 14 12:58
The evidence links Kosminski to one crime scene only.  We don't know that the shawl originally belonged to him.  Semen found near a prostitute is hardly surprising.  If this was today, I reckon a good lawyer would get him acquitted of murder.

He mentions the Michaelmas dates of 29th September and 8th November as being the nights of two murders (Catherine Eddowes and Mary Jane Kelly).  I suppose it depends on how you look at it but Eddowes was killed in the early hours of the 30th September and Kelly just before dawn on the 9th November.

It's generally agreed that the Ripper had some medical knowledge.  There's nothing to suggest that Kosminski had medical knowledge.
By:
Room 0182
When: 07 Sep 14 13:20
"All unsolved serious crimes are committed by Tories."

GrinGrinGrinGrin

It was Maggie wot dun it Laugh
By:
pumphol.
When: 07 Sep 14 13:26
charwell.    06 Sep 14 22:52 
It was James Maybrick.

HTH.

Not really but your detailed reasoning could persuade me otherwise
By:
Sica Dan
When: 07 Sep 14 13:44
It was Malcolm McDowell and he escaped to the present day in
the HG Wells time machine.
By:
Ramruma
When: 07 Sep 14 14:01
The Daily Mail photo of the author holding the shawl without gloves suggests the silly sod might have cross-contaminated the thing himself.
By:
Cobblaz
When: 07 Sep 14 18:47
but if this story is above board

Hmmm...a shawl that was supposedly left beside the body of a murder victim, in filthy conditions when it was p1ssing down with rain, and 126 years later appears to be remarkably clean despite never having been washed. I smell something fishy, and I'm not talking about the contents of Baldrick's apple crumble.
By:
ThunderRoad
When: 07 Sep 14 20:19
I always thought it was Tumblety, but this proves it beyond reasonable doubt IMO.
By:
acquiesce12
When: 07 Sep 14 20:34
ah, it's the annual "Jack the Ripper mystery is solved again", time of the year is it.
By:
the bairn
When: 07 Sep 14 22:57
maybe it's the real Richard 111, cheers.
By:
Cobblaz
When: 08 Sep 14 00:05
I always thought it was Tumblety, but this proves it beyond reasonable doubt IMO.

Please don't go anywhere near a jury pool
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 08 Sep 14 00:27
He won't reveal the details of the relative who provided the DNA sample and this mysterious doctor invented this hoovering technique. I reckon this fella is the one trying to do the hoovering.
By:
Clouseau
When: 08 Sep 14 00:33
Cancel all CCDA leave.
Looking at those mugshots in the link I want the Duke of Clarence, Sir William Gull, Walter Sickert, John Pizer,(Shoemaker) George Chapman, (Barber) and Aaron Kosminski (Hairdresser) all brought in for questioning about any unsolved crime.

A more guilty looking bunch of wrong'uns I have never seen.... nb search the barber and the hairdresser's gaffs for purple hair dye.Plain
By:
thegiggilo
When: 08 Sep 14 00:44
All with cliff at elms house on night of murders apparently,with leon!!Shocked
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 17 Nov 14 18:53
Documentary on Ch5, 8pm tonight.
By:
salmon spray
When: 17 Nov 14 19:54
Sickert or the mad Duke imo.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 17 Nov 14 20:46
Looks indisputable
By:
ebulGery
When: 17 Nov 14 22:23
Channel 5 put up a very case for Charles Allen Lechmere as the Riper tonight
he was found by body of Polley Nichols..but it was all circumstantial

Very difficult to deny evidence that places DNA of killer and victim on one rug

Find this statement unlikely though

But could the Ripper have brought the shawl with him and left it as an obscure clue about when he was planning to strike next?

Only serial killers from fiction do that, he may have left it because he could not risk taking it away, seems better to me

seems to clinch it, hard to deny DNA
By:
maleuk01.
When: 24 Nov 14 21:29
just watched the documentary on ch5.

It does seem a strong case for it being lechmere.

Was actually at one of the murder scences, and then lied about name etc.

And his walk to work or his mums house took him past every murder.
By:
maleuk01.
When: 24 Nov 14 21:33
but do serial killers just stp? and carry on a normal life.

The show didnt explain if him why would he just stop killing.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 25 Feb 15 20:05
New documentary tonight at 9 on Ch 5
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