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05 Sep 14
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someone in the know tell me please..because to me they spout the same **** but UKIP do it with a slightly more respectable face
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their is no difference, that's why I vote for the two of them. cheers.
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They probably wouldn't have kept quiet had they been in charge of Rotherham council.
So yes, they are exactly the same. |
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I agree with Tallywagger.
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Ukip, lot have posher voices.
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and their hopping to get taxes reduced on millionaires like themselves at the expense of people on minimum wage (standard percentage rate income tax policy).
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Ukip are as Tories and Labour are, owned by the banks/business cartel (allegedly).
Not heard that accusation aimed at the BNP. And can not imagine Ukip activists risking arrest and un-employment to distribute leaflets regarding child rape in the North and Midlands. I imagine the OP is unaware that the decade long accusations of abuse in Rotherham was proven, not really a good time to be asking questions of groups that have the b0ll0x to ask the serious questions. |
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@pandora since when did speaking up for the UK become 'chyt' as you put it.
I'm assuming that that is what the **** meant. |
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The only $hit spouted on this thread is by the op.His head is so firmly stuck up his own ar$e its frighting.
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Couldn't agree more twizzle.
Explain what you mean regards "because to me they spout the same ****" |
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If the OP is driven to ask this question then it is clear that he has not been paying attention.
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whats the diff between labour and the tories?
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akabula 05 Sep 14 22:24 Joined: 13 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 5,708 | Blogger: akabula's blog
@pandora since when did speaking up for the UK become 'chyt' as you put it. I'm assuming that that is what the **** meant. Oh dear oh dear oh dear! akabula's secret is out.  |
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The BNP wanted to send the immigrants back to where they came from.
All I've ever heard UKIP say about immigration is that they want to limit it. I think pandora1963 who is a regular commentator on politics is trying to suggest that UKIP are something that they are not. Which is typical leftie tactics. He'd rather stand by and let foreigners take our jobs houses and eventually take over the country. His motives are clear. He's a loser, and he hates his own country because of it. |
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Northernlad on another seethe.
Where I live we have a few hard working immigrants from African countries, all tell similar tales. On arrival the council puts them on an estate of mainly Somali families, these workmates are from the neighbouring Djibouti. They tell of Somali`s that have many kids and have been here near on 20 years without ever having a job, in some cases not even learning the language to help keep that comfortable life. When ever they meet at a dentist or a chemist the Somali`s think the working lads have been taken for fools as they have to pay for treatment and prescriptions, these tales are always more interesting when told by working immigrants but would not be the kind of stuff you would want to hear. Of course our own benefit culture is a curse on us and one that needs tearing up and starting afresh, but that would be far too unpopular a decision for any of these designer politicians to take. |
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acquiesce12 06 Sep 14 12:40 Joined: 27 Jul 11 | Topic/replies: 2,609 | Blogger: acquiesce12's blog Ironically, if it wasn't for immigrants, this country would be a third world country. The indigenous white population have grown up in a benefit culture they can't give up, an addiction stronger than heroin, if anyone should be kicked out it's the white scoungers. Those bending over backwards to get here WANT to work. Very true, Warehouse work and HGV drivers were never white British in fact these jobs never existed until the great Eastern European influx dont know how we got by without them  |
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Those bending over backwards to get here WANT to work.
If they can read English, why do they come here when there is a 'high rate of unemployment'???? If they can't read English, they won't know about high unemployment, or more importantly, benefit rates, so why don't they stay on mainland Europe and find work, as evryone knows they will either commit crime or starve in Calais. |
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There is high rate of unemployment because the Brits think many of the jobs that are available are beneath them, the immigrants fill these jobs.
Jamie Oliver was spot on, Brit workers at the lower end of the pay scale, are lazy. European workers are harder workers. |
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Well, they attempt to, which is why we need more immigrants to continue to fill the work place. We should deport those on benefits for over 2 years, nobody can convince me that a person cannot find work in 24 months, it's ridiculous. But that's who these work programmes are aimed at, the long term unemployed and by all accounts, they are useless.
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There is high rate of unemployment because the Brits think many of the jobs that are available offer only slave labour wages.
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Then they should have done better in school.
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acquiesce12 06 Sep 14 14:41 Joined: 27 Jul 11 | Topic/replies: 2,612 | Blogger: acquiesce12's blog There is high rate of unemployment because the Brits think many of the jobs that are available are beneath them, the immigrants fill these jobs. Jamie Oliver was spot on, Brit workers at the lower end of the pay scale, are lazy. European workers are harder workers. See he knows these jobs were never done before the Eastern Europeans came over. HGV Drivers and Warehouse jobs wages havent dropped because of the mass influx its because ENglish people never done the jobs to begin with. Jamie spit everywhere Oliver had it hard growing up eh  |
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acquiesce12 06 Sep 14 14:47 Joined: 27 Jul 11 | Topic/replies: 2,614 | Blogger: acquiesce12's blog Then they should have done better in school. Ah so its you my friend not the people who go for jobs who think it's beneath them? Those who do manual labour manufacturing Lorry driving were just lazy at school were they? That's good to know |
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Lazy Brits refuse jobs.
Hard working immigrants take ANY job. This is a fact, whichever way you try to dress it up |
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And who are the Lazy Brits my good man? Which jobs? As someone who has worked for the same company for 14 years in a warehouse and seen how it has changed in that sector and in the Haulage you sir are talking bollox
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Always easy to preach that others should do any job for any money as long as it isn't you acquiesce12.
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Always makes me laugh that bigmo. Those not in the said job where wages are the same or even lower than 15 years ago seem to be the experts
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you don't know what I do bigmo so what are you rabbiting on about. Those jobs are beneath me but that's because I am qualified to do much higher paid work. Those that aren't should take what's there and stop scrounging tax payers money, it's not theirs.
Are you telling me that the long term unemployed, the job shirkers, cannot find a job within TWO years, that my friend is RIDICULOUS, do you know how ridiculous it sounds, think about it, immigrants are barely here for a few weeks before they're in employment, they'll take anything, there are plenty of jobs out there. |
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acquiesce12 06 Sep 14 15:24 Joined: 27 Jul 11 | Topic/replies: 2,620 | Blogger: acquiesce12's blog you don't know what I do bigmo so what are you rabbiting on about. Those jobs are beneath me but that's because I am qualified to do much higher paid work. Those that aren't should take what's there and stop scrounging tax payers money, it's not theirs. Are you telling me that the long term unemployed, the job shirkers, cannot find a job within TWO years, that my friend is RIDICULOUS, do you know how ridiculous it sounds, think about it, immigrants are barely here for a few weeks before they're in employment, they'll take anything, there are plenty of jobs out there. Exactly including wages. All the people I work with in Haulage and the warehouses must be liars. Answer me this know it all how comes these jobs were decent paid work 15 years ago but not now? |
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Fact: There are plenty of jobs available that need filling
Fact: There are plenty of people unwilling to do the jobs Fact: Most of these people that are unwilling to do these jobs, mostly unskilled, are the indigenous white population. |
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One doesn't mind foreigners but doesn't want any more over here.
The other can't stand 'em full stop. |
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acquiesce12 06 Sep 14 15:45 Joined: 27 Jul 11 | Topic/replies: 2,624 | Blogger: acquiesce12's blog Fact: There are plenty of jobs available that need filling Fact: There are plenty of people unwilling to do the jobs Fact: Most of these people that are unwilling to do these jobs, mostly unskilled, are the indigenous white population. When you wanna answer the question regarding wages you let me know sweetcheeks. You can also let me know how these jobs were all filled a decade ago before the mass influx |
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He can not answer that, warehouse work here is minimum rate, would be less if they could get away with it. |
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You are missing the point here
Jobs are available, work-shy Brits wont take them and would rather sponge benefits. Comparing wages from 98 and 14 are pointless. Ps, if you want to go down the passive aggressive route, refrain from using terms like 'sweetcheeks', it makes you look a bit of a prat, I don't think the lads in the warehouse will be too impressed  |
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Those jobs are beneath me but that's because I am qualified to do much higher paid work.
So you've admitted on the forum that god forbid you should lose your job you would find certain jobs beneath you so wouldn't take. |
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"passive aggressive" oh dear. you seem to be going off topic again. Why is comparing wages from '98 to 14 pointless? I'm not talking about going up with inflation I'm talking the same or less. You are the one looking a prat. If this is still to difficult a question, which given your qualifications is a puzzler maybe you could answer how these jobs were done before the mass influx you know what with the lazy British.
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You can't answer the question can you?
1. Are there plenty of jobs available - YES 2. Do Brits go out of their way to get these jobs -NO It's that simple, no need to post essays on the matter, BRITS are lazy because many of them on the dole were brought up in a benefits culture, something for nothing, free school meals, free education, free health care, everything free, free, free. We need immigrants who understand the hard work ethic. |
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LOL. We'll try again cos you're still struggling. Let's say somebody comes into your work you know with all your qualifications cos you're such a high flyer, your boss comes in and says "I'm freezing your wages for the next 14 years. Now you carry on paying your mortgage now otherwise Dariuz over there will do the job". We're not talking about the fact that there are some people on benefits. (I notice you're saying there isnt any immigrants on benefits
) And please please try to answer this question why were these jobs being done before the cheap labour came over if no British were prepared to do the job 10 years ago? Dont go off on a different tangent now answer those points please |
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They are not PREPARED to work NOW, regardless of wages then, now is prevalent, they are quite happy to take without given back to society, vermin do that.
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Immigrants who work have a massive competitive edge over most of these work shy Brits you talk about. They have just turned up in the country and can locate to anywhere in the country where there is jobs, stay 8 to a flat or in lodgings next to the work for the season and put up with this because the wages they get have far more spending power when they take them home to spend. They don't care about job security or that it's seasonal work because they can move elsewhere or return home when they want.
It's a bit different for the Brit who has to relocate somewhere for a minimum wage job which has no job security or be worse off having to spend money on public transport for a job miles away. |