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SIR CLIFF....
SIR CLIFF....
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Emden • August 15, 2014 10:36 PM BST
es, sadly wasted on Sir Cliff, I mean he could have porked his way through half the female of this country and that is why wondered about him yes that is a point, I thought it was because he was gay, but did not want to lose his female fans and being gay was not accepted so much then...unless you were outrageously camp like Kenneth Williams people can laugh at it then well I really hope it is not kiddies, we shall see |
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I am sure some females like yeahyeah are looking in on this thread, and thinking what a sad lot us men are
with out somewhat shallow values with women We bring our problems on ourselves  but I am still maintaining we don't do kiddies as much as is suggested by our media and court cases on that last remark, I do realise I am going against majority opinion on here  |
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As a "senior citizen" I am amazed that the old biddies that I fancied 50 yrs ago are defending Kitty.
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Again to add a historical perspective there were strong political groups at the heart of the political cass seemingly hell bent on free love for children in the 70's. They were even affiliated with the Labour party with many existing leading politicians even now bending over backwards distancing themselves from their actions or lack of them in the 70's. Lib Dems? Think David Steele's knowledge and appalling slihtering over fatty Cyril. And the Tories. Where do you start? At least nost of them got a penchant for it when they were buggered at school so they were also victims as well sometime as being perpetrators.
No wonder the rest of us wince a bit at the thought of one up the pipe and detest the thought of kiddy fiddling. There are probably plenty of people still out there in positions of power hoping this all dies down and wondering what the big deal is. One up the bum. Too much harm done. |
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is it coincidence his 1961 album was called the young ones & his
2010 album was called bold as brass (ie thinking he'd got away with it) & if you take 1961 from 2010 it leaves 49, which was age cliff was when the offence took place! |
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You can all forget about it,an expert on law on sky says that Sir Cliff would not be able to get a fair trial if he was charged,because of all that has been written about him since his name was mentioned in the media.looks like we will all have to put up with Sir CLIFF for another 50 years,a new book,30 more number ones and a pile of millions from the state."the rich ones,darling weer the rich ones"
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I have no idea if he is guilty of anything at this point and the police have to be given time to develop the case. I have two concerns with what has happened to date though. Firstly I think the public should be given an indication of the substance of the evidence that led to a judge signing a warrant to search his home, I would hate to think its simply one person making an allegation that has led to this. I tend to like the way the Americans deal with warrants for searches or arrest, they have to have a clear and measured level of evidence before an arrest or search can be made. And my second concern is why has this case not being heavily reported on the media, whilst I agree at this stage it shouldn't, I cant help thinking that because he is a Knight of the realm and a friend of the BBC that this has effected the reporting on the matter. In the other Yew tree cases there was a media scramble to report on everything and anything about the person involved, with Sir Cliff almost nothing. Where is the consistency?
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it was bad enough that we had to put up with bowyer and woodgate ffs
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^ @brassneck
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Maybe the guy is clean as a whistle.?and the woop woop woop woop,got it wrong.
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Did Sir Cliff ever have horses in training with Sir Henry Cecil?
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may have done Evgengy, he wasn't alone.
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"if you take 1961 from 2010 it leaves 49, which was age cliff was when the offence took place!"
The alleged offence took place in 1985 he was born 1940. |
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bang goes that theory
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You can not give a persons name out in law until they are charged.And as far as I know the guys name is Harry Webb.so that will take a few days to sort out.Someone somewhere made a big big blunder.
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Thanks Howdi - they may have run up the Doncaster straight.
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Red Riding !
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^ was one of the best things on tv in the last decade imo
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When mr glitters house was raided all evidence was not allowed to be used in court because in law he is Paul Francis Gadd,and mr.glitter was compensated for the error by the state.Bottom line on my point is that Sir Cliffs name should not have been Released by the police and the chances of a trial are about 2% if mr.webb is charged
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He's one of the ''untouchables'' zero chance of getting charged knows far to many in the inner circle,the whole thing looks a fiasco to me for him to slink into obscurity....
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I remember him getting very excited on Grand National day in 2004. I think he, d backed the Tabor-owned mare who won and whose name now escapes me.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he is truly celibate.He is a strange cove and I don't reckon sex has figured much in his life. just an opinion but I don't believe there will be any substance in these allegations.
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sir clifford of the richard gambling... are you shure?
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Well all I remember MB was him punching the air when that Tabor horse won. Whether he had a bet is another matter.
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no probability about it really
on account of protection of our children |
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Still we see women taking their chances in Yewtree
so it appears a few men are going to try their luck here as well amazing one claim, others immediately follow |
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interesting on the red button today
a women is charged with suffocating her baby by lying on him yesterday a women was arrested for negligence and possible murder, of her three year old child in a swimming people very little publicity, no public anger and yet if a case involves sex, a celebrity and happened about 30 - 40 years ago we are all up I arms why is that? |
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The first two are almost certainly due to the overreaction of the authorities and their "partners" and will come to nothing. If that is wrong then outrage comes later .
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Paedophile Information Exchange
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) Formation 1974 Extinction 1984 Headquarters London Region served UK Official language English The Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) was a British pro-paedophile activist group, founded in October 1974 and officially disbanded in 1984 Government funding[edit] In March 2014 evidence emerged that PIE had received grants totalling £70,000 from the Home Office , after a whistle-blower told police he witnessed a successful three-year grant renewal application for £35,000 in 1980, implying that a similar grant had been made in 1977 |
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gery, have you not heard of the paedophile information exchange?
actually I was there, as we did not live in a society of mass paedophilia well as luck would have it I was there too and I remember it being reported about extensively in the early 80s... dr rhodes boyson being one of the most infamous members of this group: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/westminster-abuse-inquiry-i-found-rent-boys-to-entertain-top-tory-politicians-in-the-1980s-claims-former-party-activist-9602754.html do you have selective memory problems gery, or are you just simply genuinely ignorant? |
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or are you just simply genuinely ignorant? our truce simply did not last long
Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) how am I supposed to know about that???? I never saw the Daily Paedophile Gazette on sale????? It was not delivered to peoples doors as a free newspaper This is being exaggerating out of all proportion I still say we are rewriting history |
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Facts..Red Riding
one of the best drama series I have seen in recent years but I did have a little trouble with plot Would the police have covered up paedophile activities to the extent they did even when child murder was involved? Although yes I am sure the police covered up for a lot, Police corruption has and probably still is a problem for us |
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I suppose a organization like Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) could have existed
if fact it did I never heard of it, nobody I ever knew had heard of it, and I find it difficult to believe that all our government were members I assume rent boys are legal if of age?...they are male prostitutes..prostitution is not illegal |
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PIE was pretty well known after the Sunday People brought it to the attention of the general public in 1975. http://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.com/2013/03/15/the-vilest-men-in-britain-25-5-75/
Affiiated to the NCCL, it still haunts Harriet Harman, Jack Dromey and Patricia Hewitt. PIE did have taxpayers money to help it along, at least 30,000 pounds apparantly. |
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oh well...I missed it
I think I used to buy The News Of The World for the juicy bits  I sometimes think this is what this Historical Sex abuse is really about Perhaps we should have just kept the News Of The World...oh well |
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Now then listen to this.the police got a call from the bbc saying"we know you are going to raid Sir Cliffs house.The police thought that because the bbc knew this it was safe to release Sir Cliffs name.(they presumed that everybody knew)But the BBC had not told anybody.SO the police are at fault.Now in law the State has to protect itself.SO if there are no charges taken against Sir Cliff the state is doing its job of protecting itself.now im not saying Sir Cliff is innocent or guilty of any charges but can you understand that the state will not want to get involved in a trial that indirectly will be caused by an error by the state itself.AND the brittish justice system is There to protect the state .So the advice from the state justice representitives will be to drop the whole case in order to protect the state.
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The release of Sir Cliff's name was deliberate in an effort to stop any investigation and thus protect the guilty party or parties; they are the only ones to gain from such a breach of confidence. I suggest that either 1.Politicians wanted it stopped and used the compliant BBC, or 2. Old Bill was naive regarding the actions of the BBC or complicit.
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Can't we give this a rest?...........who cares anyway?
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apologies gery, too much beer - my first for a few weeks, so probably had a disproportionate effect
that notwithstanding, the PIE was in the news very recently re its affiliation to the then National Council for Civil Liberties (now Liberty) |
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^ back in the 70s and 80s when future labour stars Harriet Harman and Patricia Hewitt were leading members
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