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Wife tells of academic husband's bravery after he fought off four masked raiders for five minutes in their £2m home - and was left needing facial reconstructive surgery
Paul Kohler was left with 'life changing' injuries after being savagely beaten
He is 'in and out' of surgery as doctors try to rebuild his 'shattered' face
Burglars straddled and punched the lawyer shouting 'where's the money'
Men attempted to use gaffer tape to tie down his screaming wife Samantha
The 50-year-old was held down as three men beat her academic husband
His daughter and her boyfriend were upstairs and alerted police to the scene
Two 'blood-soaked' men arrested while police hunt the other two suspects
Friends and employees of man said he had 'charming and 'ordinary' family
The wife of a senior academic whose face was 'shattered' by four masked burglars after they forced their way into his £2million home has spoken of her husband's bravery.
Paul Kohler, 55, was at home with his wife, daughter and his daughter's boyfriend, when he opened the door to four men in balaclavas.
After pushing him to the ground, the men, all thought to be Polish, 'straddled' and 'punched' the Cambridge graduate for more than five minutes until his daughter, who was upstairs, called 999.
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Wife tells of academic husband's bravery after he fought off four masked raiders for five minutes in their £2m home - and was left needing facial reconstructive surgery
Paul Kohler was left with 'life changing' injuries after being savagely beaten
He is 'in and out' of surgery as doctors try to rebuild his 'shattered' face
Burglars straddled and punched the lawyer shouting 'where's the money'
Men attempted to use gaffer tape to tie down his screaming wife Samantha
The 50-year-old was held down as three men beat her academic husband
His daughter and her boyfriend were upstairs and alerted police to the scene
Two 'blood-soaked' men arrested while police hunt the other two suspects
Friends and employees of man said he had 'charming and 'ordinary' family
The wife of a senior academic whose face was 'shattered' by four masked burglars after they forced their way into his £2million home has spoken of her husband's bravery.
Paul Kohler, 55, was at home with his wife, daughter and his daughter's boyfriend, when he opened the door to four men in balaclavas.
After pushing him to the ground, the men, all thought to be Polish, 'straddled' and 'punched' the Cambridge graduate for more than five minutes until his daughter, who was upstairs, called 999.
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On the plus side his house has increased in value by £300k in between the time of the Daily Mail creating the story link and creating the story.
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the mail will turn that into a whole separate double page spread crisp
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Why the suprise any violent criminal can leave prison anywhere in Europe today and be here tomorrow and cannot be stopped under freedom of movement of the E.U.
Meanwhile there are 100k+ foreign prisoners in our jails and what a suprise there is an overcrowding problem. Foreign criminals do not fear our jails if caught whereas prisons in most of Europe are hell holes. Our prisons often are better than their homes for some ,especially E.Europe. |
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there arent even 100,000 prisoners in the uk, so to have 100,000 foreign ones would be a hell of an achievement!
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according to government figures last week there were a total of 85,795
people in uk prisons. thats the total. it doesnt mention how many are foreigners, but its fair to assume it wont be the majority by a long way. |
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Typo 10k + about 10% same argument.
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scum all right
I have slight concern over the word euro though |
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Why should a vicious crime such as this, be less important than the media outlet reporting it in your opinion badger,
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If there was the same imprisonment rate in England today as there was in the 1950s
there would be 300,000 prisoners. |
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The convkction rate today is so poor it covers up the true rise in crime since the 1950s
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sideshowbob • August 13, 2014 11:32 PM BST
there arent even 100,000 prisoners in the uk, so to have 100,000 foreign ones would be a hell of an achievement! true Bob  you think too may are getting off lfc1971??? should not be really, considering we now have more advanced forensics, and vastly more surveillance cameras??????? |
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ebul
In the 1950s something like 1in 3 robberies led to prison- today 1 in 22 Burgularies in 1950s 1 in 8 , today 1 in 59 |
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community service is more common now for lesser offences , whilst years ago they would jail you for an unpaid fine you get 10 -20 chances at court for them , waste of money taking people to court so many times for the same fine ( if you dont pay it )
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Burgularies in 1950s 1 in 8 , today 1 in 59 what is that figure??????????????????? confused here
community service...is no punishment in my opinion |
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After pushing him to the ground, the men, all thought to be Polish,
BBC Television news pages don't mention any ethnicity at all. |
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The other odd thing about the way the story is reported is the man's job. The papers seem more interested in his having been a student at Cambridge than his current position as head of the law department at London University's School of Oriental and African Studies.
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I'm not sure about the increasingly common line about "mistaken identity" often trotted out in particularly savage beatings or murders. Bad luck for the actual victim certainly, but I'm uneasy about the implication it would have been OK to mete out the same treatment to whoever was the gang's intended target.
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Is there any evidence that English people are more harshly treated by the police and
judicial system? You might wonder how such a situation could come about but have any studies been done? just a question. |
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call me a taxi 14 Aug 14 01:29
After pushing him to the ground, the men, all thought to be Polish, BBC Television news pages don't mention any ethnicity at all. Maybe because the BBC aren't as racist as the scum rag Daily Mail |
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Paul Kohler, 55
Kohler sounds kinda "Euro" in itself, does it not? |
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Facts
Maybe because the BBC aren't as racist as the scum rag Daily Mail Got to be the least factual statement I have read on here, not just racist at the beeb but have a lot of questions to answer to the Yewtree investigation too regarding past directors, if former employees are asked for statements similar to one`s they have given to the media. The Mail is dodgy, but the bbc is beyond treacherous. |
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2725469/JAN-MOIR-A-brave-decent-father-betrayed-soft-touch-Britain.html
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2725001/He-looks-like-Elephant-Man-hes-tough-guy-hell-home-soon-says-brother-academic-beaten-pulp-gang-masked-raiders-2m-home.html
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.....Got some kids back in the motherland? Here, have some child benefits to keep them going and pick up your free robber mask on the way out
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook How's that for responsible journalism !? |
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She's not a journalist. Just a rent a gob.
Already judged the case and made her mind up what was behind it. |
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call me a taxi 14 Aug 14 01:29
After pushing him to the ground, the men, all thought to be Polish, BBC Television news pages don't mention any ethnicity at all. Facts 14 Aug 14 12:57 Maybe because the BBC aren't as racist as the scum rag Daily Mail I wouldn't know as I don't read a daily newspaper, but you obviously read them as as you can make comparisons. Would you care to enlighten all the readers of chit chat? Which newspapers tell the truth? |
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The Guardian - of course !
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I'm still trying to work out just what is CMAT's problem. He gets his news from the 'BBC Television news pages'. This is fine although it is not to be confused with the BBC website. That's not a problem, either.
What IS a problem, though, is that he is constantly complaining that the news reports (which he watches by choice) are incomplete. This 'incompleteness' seems to always be that his chosen source of information often fail to attach some sort of ethnicity to the subjects of the reports. Now I don't know which particular ethnic details he feels that he needs to know, above and beyond those which his chosen news supplier finds relevant to the report. Let's take the four 'possibly Polish' chaps mentioned above. Apparently, that is insufficient detail. He feels that he needs to know all of the details regards the varied ethic combinations that can exist between four people...none of which are relevant to the news. More precise details may be available from other sources but CMAT insists that they should all be on HIS source! He knows that the details which he seeks may be available from other sources where the editorial preferences may be closer to his own but he proudly declares that he won' use those other sources! So, it looks to me CMAT, like you're stuck with this lack of information. I suppose that you could the supplier through the news pages, somehow. Other than that, keep on moaning. ps. I think one might have been Jewish. Or was that the victim? Damn! Shoulda paid more attention. |
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Facts 15 Aug 14 14:43
The Guardian - of course I would then assume then, that the sales figures are the highest of all the UK daily newspapers. Is that a fact? I'm told that if the online site reports crime by blacks or asians, the comments boxes are kept closed. Is that true? |
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Now I don't know which particular ethnic details he feels that he needs to know, above and beyond those which his chosen news supplier finds relevant to the report
Which is why I'd like you to explain why other new sites seem to show the ethnicity of suspects, but if they are black or asian, most of the time, the BBC tend not to do it. But they always put the ethnicity on the pages if the suspects are white. Let's hope that if you ever get shot, stabbed, mugged or raped, you can give the police description(s) of your alleged attacker(s). I think it helps if the public know who to watch out for. In my opinion, looking for a 6 feet 3 inch black man with red hair is a lot easier than trying to spot a 6 feet 3 inch white man with black hair. Consequently, the suspect could be arrested faster. Unless of course you don't want the police to have the description(s) of your alleged attacker(s) for some reason. |
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Naydam
Let's take the four 'possibly Polish' chaps mentioned above. Apparently, that is insufficient detail. He feels that he needs to know all of the details regards the varied ethic combinations that can exist between four people...none of which are relevant to the news. Where did I say it was insufficient? Show me. |
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cmat - this is a pretty poor response. Even I could have done better and I am not even on your side of YOUR fence.
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Facts 14 Aug 14 12:57
Maybe because the BBC aren't as racist as the scum rag Daily Mail What if they are Polish? Will you post an apology for slating the Daily Mail. Newham is a wonderfully multicultural borough. But I would strongly advise you to NEVER read the Newham Recorder crime pages. You'd have a heart attack as the vast majority of criminals are black or asian. The Newham Recorder just reports the news, you see. It's not racist to report what has actually happened. Yet. |
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blackbarn 15 Aug 14 21:16
cmat - this is a pretty poor response. Even I could have done better and I am not even on your side of YOUR fence. Which one? There are 3 there. |
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Take your pick, but lets start with the one I replied to. 9pm
You start with a preposition you know to be untrue. You end with a question that you do not know the answer to and you know that the person you are addressing it to doesnt know either. One wonders what the fkin point is  |
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Tony Blair what have you done. You irresponsible fool.
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