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stewarty b
13 Aug 14 15:04
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The Queen is in Glasgow and she bumped into Alex Salmond.

HM:  How nice to see you Mr Salmond.

Alex:  Nice to see you Ma’am. Now, what are we going to call Scotland when we win Independence? How about calling it a Kingdom, and then I’ll be a King?

HM:  No, we don’t like that.

Alex:  Empire, and I'll be Emperor?

HM: No.

Alex:  Alright, so how about calling it a Principality, and then I’ll be a Prince?

HM:  No Mr Salmond, I suggest we call it a Country.

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By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 15:08
Well she'll be the c*nt, since he's already said she'll still be intended HoS.


Another referendum within 10 years max though. "Should Scotland be a Republic?" Massive YES.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Aug 14 15:47
Either Alis has done his baws on the yes vote or he's Mr Salmond himself. Either way I think the poor wee laddie is going to have a nervous breakdown and the no vote is still over a month away. Laugh
By:
call me a taxi
When: 13 Aug 14 15:57
Alias
13 Aug 14 15:08
Well she'll be the c*nt,


How very dare you, Sirrah!!!

That's my Sovereign you're talking about.

Arm yourself with a sword and meet me at dawn on The Heath.

Prepare to be done up like a kipper.
By:
stewarty b
When: 13 Aug 14 16:06
I think it's the Tower for Alias and 'off with his head'.Laugh
By:
stewarty b
When: 13 Aug 14 16:10
Perhaps I could have left the word 'with' out of that post!!
By:
call me a taxi
When: 13 Aug 14 16:42
Laugh
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 16:48
On the contrary stewarty, I'm in command of all of my mental processes. Unlike yourself, who finds it impossible to separate his football allegiance from rational political reasoning. It's the "I'm a Rangers fan so I'd better be loyal" dumb follow following attitude, even to the extent of slavish addiction to an anachronistic nonsense called monarchy.



Eo, I've traded on the Yes/No market and gained, and am confident I'll gain more. At present I am extremely happy with my position, and I assure you No will drift.


cmat, that's a date but I'll bring my M16 if that's OK. No problem with your sword.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 13 Aug 14 16:58
My sword is attached to the nose of a Tornado fighter.. and my dad was bigger than your dad.Laugh
By:
stewarty b
When: 13 Aug 14 17:03
I'm fed up of telling you Alias, being a Rangers fan has nothing to do with my dislike of Salmond and his ilk.

It's what's best for Scotland I want, and for one I don't want to be betting with the Yen.
By:
stewarty b
When: 13 Aug 14 17:04
As for a Republic, bring it on....for the whole of the UK.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Aug 14 17:07
The yes voters are very disrespectful to the Queen...bad apples!!
By:
stewarty b
When: 13 Aug 14 17:32
cmat, that's a date but I'll bring my M16 if that's OK. No problem with your sword



Thought your Claymore would have been more up your street Alias?
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 18:37
lfc1971
lfc1971 13 Aug 14 17:07 Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 3,643 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
The yes voters are very disrespectful to the Queen...bad apples!!

Respect has to be earned, and nothing Liz or any of her family has done in my lifetime has achieved that.
By:
stewarty b
When: 13 Aug 14 18:43
Can't argue with that Alias. Which begs the question, where did Charlie get his dozen or so medals from?
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 18:44
stewarty b 13 Aug 14 17:03 Joined: 02 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 7,355 | Blogger: stewarty b's blog
I'm fed up of telling you Alias, being a Rangers fan has nothing to do with my dislike of Salmond and his ilk.

a) I don't believe you

b) It's not about Salmond, he'll be gone in a few years whatever. It's about the future of Scotland and it's people, and the right to have the govt WE elect. Nothing complicated about that, even a blue nose should understand.
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Here's a wee piece I posted years ago which I remember you were obviously enamoured with:

"I never understood them, the Scots, but this I will give you: no nation of its size since ancient Greece has had a comparable impact on the world."  Winston Churchill.

It obviously didn't mean to you what it meant to me.
By:
stewarty b
When: 13 Aug 14 18:49
Actually it did. It proves that the Scottish people have the brains to vote no.
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 18:59
and my dad was bigger than your dad

Could well have been, but my dad was BRAINIER.Happy
By:
stewarty b
When: 13 Aug 14 18:59
a) I don't believe you



I that case you're calling me a liar, in which case that's your choice.
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 19:01
As for a Republic, bring it on....for the whole of the UK.

If it was, it wouldn't be. Get it?
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my dislike of Salmond and his ilk.


Who do you mean by "his ilk"? And why the dislike?
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 19:02
It proves that the Scottish people have the brains to vote no.

In that case what are you calling me? And you may not be a liar, just misguided.
By:
stewarty b
When: 13 Aug 14 19:08
Who do you mean by "his ilk"? And why the dislike?


They're all tarred with the same brush. You only have to look at Ukraine to see what nationalism can bring.


You have a hatred of England imo.
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 19:25
That's a pathetic washed out statement. If that's all you've got, your "argument" is empty.

Nationalism can mean lots of things. If you're suggesting that the Yes campaign is akin to right wing nationalism, you've been in a cave on top of Mt Everest for the last 10 years smoking hash and drinking fermented yak's milk.
No hatred of anyone, but the fact you even brought that up clearly demonstrates that you have no grasp at all of the matter at hand. You can't debate this, because you have zero understanding of it, you've made no statements that make any sense at all, and I think one of your reasons for voting No is that you know most Celtic fans will vote Yes. You just can't bear that, can you?
By:
john92
When: 13 Aug 14 20:13
You only have to look at Ukraine to see what nationalism can bring.

You have a hatred of England imo.




Really poor statements there.
By:
stewarty b
When: 13 Aug 14 20:59
and I think one of your reasons for voting No is that you know most Celtic fans will vote Yes. You just can't bear that, can you?


Here we go again, the same old chestnut. You a incapable of having any debate when you spew this bile. It's fermented in your mind that the whole issue boils down to which football team one supports. Pathetic.


Chasing, dog, tail, no more.
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 21:35
Two posts from stewarty bThey're all tarred with the same brush. You only have to look at Ukraine to see what nationalism can bring.


You have a hatred of England imo.



Here we go again, the same old chestnut. You a incapable of having any debate when you spew this bile. It's fermented in your mind that the whole issue boils down to which football team one supports. Pathetic.


Very good stewarty, you're catching on slowly.


As you know, I'm a Hearts man. I happen to be on good terms with Hibs fans who are Yes voters, so that's another loser you've backed.


Can you show me any serious post of mine since I started in July '02 to support your "English hater" claim? You and Bitter Torygether are a busted flush as far as debate is concerned. No, I'm wrong, YOU'VE never posted anything substantial whatever, and your comments about Salmond and me prove it. They insult my intelligence as well as your own, whichever level it occupies.
By:
stewarty b
When: 13 Aug 14 22:46
Tell me this Alias, and this is the crux of the matter, in your heart of hearts, (pardon the pun) but do you honestly think it could be a YES vote next month?
By:
akabula
When: 13 Aug 14 23:04
It's been good to see the various people, politicians and others, debate independence. One thing has been evident though from those that would vote yes and it's a distinct lack of factual detail. It's all based on a Braveheart theme.
Even now Salmond and the rest of his yes team refuse to accept any argument on the use of the pound despite repeated statements that the rest of the UK will refuse to operate a monetary union.
Another aspect of the yes voters is that they insist in attacking and insulting anyone who opposes them. See Alias for proof of that.
My opposition is based purely on the economics of the matter. I feel that the costs of setting up an independent country has been played down and that, as in business, bigger is better. Ask yourself why companies merge.
As regards a republic? Hopefully never. The Queen had been a fantastic Ambassador for us for as long as she has reigned.
By:
Wallflower
When: 13 Aug 14 23:15
.........there is a cost to taking your proper place among the independent nations of earth! Well, I never.


.......in 100 years time the "economics of the matter" will be neither here nor there...it will be about how well the Scottish managed their society from all aspects.
By:
akabula
When: 13 Aug 14 23:28
Nice soundbites WF but where is the proof? Where are the facts and figures?
As regards 'set up costs' applying for membership of both the EU and NATO will be expensive plus we have to set up fresh infrastructures in every fractured service, ie the NHS, Transport, Defence and etc etc. The list is endless.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 14 Aug 14 00:06
Just to clear up the currency issue rightly or wrongly the policy is now clear. Scotland will use the pound if the people vote for independence. Salmond believes that Westminster is bluffing on the currency union issue (I agree with him) but if they aren't he says that Scotland will use the pound anyway in a similar way to how Panama uses the dollar. Can that be done? It can. Will there be difficult questions to answer and practical dificulties? Almost certainly.

As an Englishman living in Scotland it seems hard for the Scots to express a desire to order their own affairs without it coming over all Braveheart. I've only had runs ins with a couple of bellends. The rest of the people are decent folk just like anywhere else in these lucky islands.

I'll vote yes happily. For Scotland. Not for Salmond.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 14 Aug 14 00:21
me tooHappy
By:
call me a taxi
When: 14 Aug 14 01:59
Ahm a sassenach bassa, and ah dint give a hoot if ya stay in, or ya feck off.

Cool
By:
Alias
When: 14 Aug 14 13:16
akabula, I wish I'd kept a tally of the number of times you've used the term "Braveheart" on various threads. It's not the Yes campaign that uses  it or employs it, but you and your bereft lot.

I never insult unless I'm insulted, and you've done that plenty. As for a republic, it's inevitable, sooner or later, independence or not.
By:
Alias
When: 14 Aug 14 13:18
I'll vote yes happily. For Scotland. Not for Salmond.


THAT is the crux of the matter, Eo.


Are you with it now, stewarty? Who do you mean by "his ilk"? And why the dislike?
By:
Alias
When: 14 Aug 14 13:21
Another aspect of the yes voters is that they insist in attacking and insulting anyone who opposes them. See Alias for proof of that.


Try sifting thorough the various daily rags and the readers comments and see what you find.
By:
john92
When: 14 Aug 14 14:25
Does every other country on earth have a film that is referred to when people suggest that that particular country should run itself?

Britishness is a reason for some to vote no, yet they aren't seen as 'nationalist' in any way which I find bizarre.

A form of nationalism helped bring down the Soviet Union. The Armenians have been part of three empires but now have their own country again. Are they somehow bigoted? Do they hate everybody because they want to run their own country or is it just Scots? What is their 'ilk'?

I believe we should run our own affairs and take decisions in line with the broad opinion in Scotland.

I believe that the democratic system in the UK is broken. This is a chance to build a better country. Consequently independence is a beginning to me - not the end. I don't see how anybody could put all the answers in a white paper although some honestly and clarity on a few core issues is required. Independence will be what the people of Scotland make if it over hundreds of years.

I want Scotland to take a step back from the world stage and concentrate on it's own affairs. Less war, less telling other people want to do.

Others feel British, want to have whatever influence we can get or feel that being part of the UK helps share risk. That is fine. It will be a no vote and I am prepared for that.

Some of the reasons thrown about though infuriate me. You hate the English, I hate Salmond, set up costs or other things that other countries have dealt with since time began.
By:
Alias
When: 14 Aug 14 15:08
^ Post of the week.

It's not about Salmond or the SNP, it's about the future of our country, far into that future. We have an opportunity to peacefully achieve what so many other nations shed blood for: imagine how many lives would have been spared if, for example, Kosovo could have had a free and democratic referendum, or any of the other former Yugoslav states. How many former Empire colonies had to resort to so-called "terrorism" to achieve their deserved independence? Nearer to home, does anyone really believe that Ireland would have voted "no" if given the chance around 100 years ago? Does anyone believe that Ireland, despite its recent financial troubles, would vote to rejoin the UK? If you think so, take yourself over to Dublin for the weekend and conduct a straw poll in O'Connell St, and be prepared to be laughed at.
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Aug 14 16:41
Ireland has never left the union in the sense that it has been dependent on England. Thousands of young
people have had to leave Ireland for England after independence in the 1920s simply because the state
couldn't funtion. There is a lesson, Ireland like Scotland produced most of its great people while part of
the empire. Scotland is rightly proud of its history and many great scientists, writers, engineers, inventors etc
but this was achieved at a special time in history.....it takes a special set of circumstances to produce great
people and a great count.ry. These things are fragile.
By:
stewarty b
When: 14 Aug 14 16:56
Post of the month ^^
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