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Robin Williams - Suicide ?
Robin Williams - Suicide ?
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The brain is not functioning normally when people commit suicide. There's no rational thought process I.e weighing up the pros and cons of their actions. All there is a a deep black hole and an overwhelming conviction that the only way out is to die.
Thoughts of the consequences of their actions , the effect it will have on loved ones just doesn't come into the equation at all. Death is the only answer/ solution. This is why coroners use the expression ' whilst the balance of their mind was disturbed ' |
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Years ago there was a more common expression, still used by coroners "Took his own life while the balance of his mind was disturbed" I think this is a far more accurate explanation of why some people kill themselves.
To generalise by calling it a selfish act, which of course it is, is very simplistic and shows ignorance of the complex nature of mental health. |
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TaC. Last line of previous post !!
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Snap....dely in posting ment I didn't see you post.
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Fox News host Shepard Smith said this. (He has since apologized, 'To the core of my being, I regret it. It just came out of my mouth. And I’m so sorry,' he said)
When Smith spoke about Williams’ daughter, Zelda, the host said: “One of the children he so loved, one of the children grieving tonight. Because their father killed himself in a fit of depression.” ] Smith goes on, and his angry tone doesn’t falter. “It’s hard to imagine, isn’t it? You could love three little things so much, watch them grow, they’re in their mid-20s, and they’re inspiring you, and exciting you, and they fill you up with the kind of joy you could never have known.” “And yet, something inside you is so horrible or you’re such a coward or whatever the reason that you decide that you have to end it. Robin Williams, at 63, did that today.” |
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The tone of his voice makes Shepard Smith comes across as a bigger tool.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/12/gop-and-fox-news-robin-williams-death/ |
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When depressed people kill themselves, it highlights the limitations of psychiatry and medicine in this area.
They can bullshine about it until the cows come home, but as far as treating it and finding a cure they haven't got a clue where to start. Al they can provide is to put people in a drugged up state until they come out of it themselves. |
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Blimey, I knew Fox were conservative..
 At the end of the clip he brings up the legality of it. It seems that is where his anger stems from. He broke the law! |
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Now his daughter is "quitting" Twitter due to "abuse".
Isn't using Twitter compulsory these days? You'd be forgiven for thinking it was. |
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I am sure that Shepard Smith and the woman where talking about the legality of weed when Williams was getting stoned back in the day. |
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Has Alan Brazil been sacked yet ?
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What for?
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Didn't he say Williams was a coward ?
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Seems like fair comment to me.
I've got no view but surely that's free speech is it not? |
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he also said thank feck it wasn't Robbie Williams...clumsy comments
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There seems to be an industry that has grown recently about taking offence at whatever any minor celebrity may care to utter and the subsequent pursuit of an apology.
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please watch this video if you have time, shows Robin with a gorilla and it's quite touching.
.http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/gorilla-befriended-robin-williams-cried-4043840 |
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-health/11030632/Robin-Williams-Suicide-sends-shockwaves-through-families.html
An excellent piece in yesterday's Telegraph |
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watched that charlotte hawkins ex sky on itv this morning interviewing a shrink from the priory,
hawkins why do famous people struggle with depression more than normal people shrink they dont hawkins why do comedians struggle with depression more than normal people shrink they dont etc, etc, this dumb bint thinks that becuase mr and mrs joe bloggs death doesnt make it onto sky news no one outside the luvies village suffer from these everyday illness,s,she should be sacked |
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Blimey, we'll have no-one left to work on tv or radio at this rate.
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surely she's just stating the bleeding obvious that depression and by definition the suicide rate amongst celebrities is far higher than in the normal population ?
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well there was probably 100,s of suicides in the world yesterday and 1 was a celebrity,so if there were 2 plumbers,bakers,bankers etc,no it wouldnt be far higher than the normal population
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suicides by suicide bombers tend to have a high rate
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I heard a joke once: Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life is harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world. Doctor says, "Treatment is simple. The great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go see him. That should pick you up." Man bursts into tears. Says, "But doctor... I am Pagliacci." Good joke. Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drum. Curtains
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I actually saw that happy days episode when robin Williams made his 'debut' I think he was mork in that and then obviously had his own series afterwards
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surely she's just stating the bleeding obvious that depression and by definition the suicide rate amongst celebrities is far higher than in the normal population
Not sure about this but one thing that research has discovered is that the suicide rates in the non celeb population increase markedly after the death of a celebrity. So in essence the suicide of someone as high profile as Robin Williams will cause many others to commit suicide. |
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^^ think it depends on how its reported there are guidelines. The rags in their wisdom with Robin Williams disregarded the guidelines in favour of sensationalism
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Brendan its not a joke but a supposedly true (unlikely) story about the real life clown Grimaldi who was supposed to be the best there ever was
A man goes into the doctors, ‘Doctor,’ he says, ‘can you help me? Life doesn’t seem worth living, and I am shrouded in constant gloom.’ ‘My good man,’ says the doctor, taking a good look at the melancholy face before him, ‘there is only one cure for you. You must go and see Grimaldi the clown.’ ‘Sir,’ replies the patient, ‘I am Grimaldi the clown.’ |
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It has been reported that his wife has confirmed he had early stage Parkinson's disease.
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Could it be that this depression/suicide story is just a cover-up for the usual depravity that happens in Hollywood ?
http://tellmenow.com/2014/08/did-robin-williams-die-of-autoerotic-asphyxiation/ |
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^ unadulterated shlt. American guttersnipe reporting at its worst..
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oh i do like to be beside the suicide
... oops, wrong thread. |
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Again Facts, seems like fair comment.
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Why is it a fair comment ?
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Because of the circumstances in which he was allegedly found.
It may or may not be true but it is worth keeping an open mind. |
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He's 'dead' for goodness sake......what is wrong with you people?!
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When one has depression, one is in a state or mental pain all the time.
One can see no way out of it, life is so appallingly black that in itself hurts If one sees no hope of this changing the most sensible thing is to commit suicide. Although I would hardly call that cowardly, because to take ones own life itself takes some courage. So I would not call Robin a coward. In fact the only reason I am alive myself is because I am a coward, even though I wanted to commit suicide because of depression I could not quite get the courage to do it. Although if the depression had not lifted slightly in the end I would probably have had to do it. But it is no easy thing. A person is in some pain to take ones own life. People do not do it for a laugh. As for being selfish, well Robin may have felt his family were well catered for, so he was under no obligation to them to stay alive, although it will always cause pain to anyone who cares for you. He may even have felt a burden to them. I now have someone dependant on me, and as my life has slightly improved, my depression has slightly lifted, but will never go away. I wish at times I had the courage to commit suicide. My message is, do not ever blame someone for taking their own life, unless you have had depression yourself. |
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I have known people who have committed suicide, and believe me, they have been in some mental pain.
In some cases sadly it seemed inevitable. Because there was no way to take away their mental pain, they were suffering. I am not talking about suicide attempts to gain attention here. The real deal, when people go all the way, because it is the only way to stop the pain. |
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It is no hope which finally kills. As long as people can find some hope, even if unlikely
they will hang on. But no hope kills. Robin had Parkinson's, at this stage he may well have lost hope. At this point suicide is very hard to stop. |
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ebul, i feel for u man..................... i have a son who suffered from the black dog, and i never knew what real pain was until my experiences with him, one thing i did learn was that always keep the communication open and truthful and always give as much love as u can.
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