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By:
epicurean
When: 08 Aug 14 00:26
AG I mean world wide not just this country.
By:
ebulGery
When: 08 Aug 14 00:59
We must offer humanitarian help

but I must remind people that is our invasion of Iraq that has led to the appalling civil war that is going on out there

I don't think Obama knows what to do tbh, he has inherited the gigantic mess Bush left

The trouble if he supports the Iraqi government, he is effectively supporting Shia Muslims against

Sunni Muslims which he does not want to do. Neither do I suspect that US public want any more US involvement in Iraq

They have had just about enough of it.
By:
polybot
When: 08 Aug 14 10:08
tweet from the official obama spokesholes around the last election:

"Barack Obama @BarackObama
FACT: President Obama kept his promise to end the war in Iraq. Romney called the decision to bring our troops home “tragic.”
"   


"Obama talk of intervention, a humanitarian mission to help the mountain top people.
Ye with little faith."

AG,
They say the truly devoted followers of Obamaism will keep their faith regardless of any fact or reality.
obama's surrender in iraq signed the death warrants of tens of thousands and he knew it. these airstrikes won't bring back the dead or rebuild the cultures wiped out after 5000 years of existence. it's arguable at this late stage whether they will have any meaningful effect at all given that obama has "ended war in iraq". Seems the best he can hope for is a bloody civil war with an uncertain outcome, and at someone else's suffering.
More telling is the video projected on the US embassy in russia of obama with the banana, you now have the us president mocked and ridiculed in russia, reviled in the middle east, and clinging to his dwindling hardline party faithful base in the US. perhaps the dems will cut him lose and spin for the first ever, er, woman president? Or how bout first ever woman pretending to be native american. Or how bout first ever woman with brain damage? Luckily they got both options covered.
By:
polybot
When: 08 Aug 14 10:21
"but I must remind people that is our invasion of Iraq that has led to the appalling civil war that is going on out there"

obviously not, prior to any intervention it was the Stalin-styled Saddam Hussien's Sunni muslims persecuting everyone else, the same sunnis who facilitated isis into iraq.
the US intervened to prevent the persecution of the kurds, the marsh arabs, the kuwaitis, the shia.

iraq was stable in 2008 and the country had a reasonable chance of success, al qaeda was largely ostracised and on the wane, compared to the rubble-ized mess of today the mid-east was relatively peaceful.
By:
ebulGery
When: 08 Aug 14 10:26
obviously not?????
obviously yes I would say

the only time there has been any peace in Iraq since the invasion
was when thousands of US troops were stationed there, now they have gone it has collapsed

Why do you hate Obama so much Polybot?????
By:
ebulGery
When: 08 Aug 14 10:28
Obama has authorised air strikes to protect the Kurds
I hope he intends to protect the Christians
By:
polybot
When: 09 Aug 14 09:00
"the only time there has been any peace in Iraq since the invasion
was when thousands of US troops were stationed there"


???! Sorry, but wasn't the narrative* "all the violence is due to the presence of the capitalist occupier" or some such BS?
Anyhoo, now that the west has surrendered possibly the only hope for a meaningful democratic mid east due mainly (if not entirely) to western liberal political pressure, thus abandoning the millions in the mid east who would have happily accepted the privileges bourne by those who would deny them to the brown men, we now get to see a world as envisioned by ayatollahs. mullahs, tribal leaders, cults and islamo-fascists. And who knows maybe soon we will get to experience all this first hand.


*the partial list of BS partizan debunked narratives encapsulated in easy to rote memorise slogans:
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE OIL!!! (US corporations took no significant contracts in Iraq, let alone relative to international interests)
9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!! (ffs)
NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!! (an argument put forth only by those without basic reading comprehension skills)
By:
polybot
When: 09 Aug 14 09:12
"the only time there has been any peace in Iraq since the invasion
was when thousands of US troops were stationed there, now they have gone it has collapsed"


And no. Kurdistan was in fact a shining light in the mid east, it was a thriving example of progress and modernity. Meanwhile the shia and sunni were hoping for weakness...
And also no, great progress was made post-surge (which obama vigourously opposed) and especially post angbar which broke al qaeda in these sunni areas, so that in 2008 the insurgency was largely ineffective, until of course obama dedided to use surrender as an election gimmick, leaving the iraqi govt exposed, and the islamists with a "get out of jail card", in many cases literally.
By:
polybot
When: 09 Aug 14 09:19
"Obama has authorised air strikes to protect the Kurds"
much
Make no mistake, obama  has authorised airstrikes to protect obama, a total genocide would look bad on his fundraising campaign, looks much better if it's a genocide with token and belated US airstrikes (a la B Clinton)
Pleas were made to the US 7 weeks ago or earlier, but the OB admin didn't want to disturb their "war is over in iraq" fundraising slogan.
By:
polybot
When: 09 Aug 14 09:57
"Why do you hate Obama so much Polybot?????"

Hate is an such emotive term, if i see jimmy carter as myself at the age of 12, can i truly hate him? Even though he gave us the Afghanistan crisis, the ayatollah, the modern mujahadeen, and all that followed? And all the millions that suffered and died because one man feared unpopularity more than anything else.

Either obama achieved success through his innate ability (unlikely given the rush to officially  seal all academic and almost all other records while unsealing those of his democratic opponents, along with his record of being most partizan in the senate while preaching cooperation, or of never having held a meaningful job while professing the plight of the working people, of being a constitutional lawyer while clearly disregarding the constitution, and so on) or the much more like likely scenario that he was groomed and  selected by the Party entirely for his skin colour* and other related media marketability, while he has a base which will blindly support him regardless of his spectacular failures in almost every sphere** of public office

but the record of the obama admin speaks for itself, or in most cases ails to speak to the lack of accountability of the supposed "most transparent administration eva"
fast and furious
the trayvon martin race circus
the black panther election non action (race baiting is a major dem tactic)
replacing (but not closing) gitmo and 3 counts of water torture with arbitrary assassinations of thousands of alleged suspects and civilian bystanders
ramping up of the patriot act to the nsa and associated agencies spying on all and sundry including allies and political opponents
the irs scandal (worse than nixon?)
the epa scandal (worse than the irs?)
the confirmed benghazi lies, and whatever it was concealing
the failure of reset with russia, the mockery of the treaty breaches, and the resulting tragedy that is is ukraine
the mid east, from libya, to egypt, to syria, to iraq, to iran, to gaza
the shambles that africa has become, sudan snatched from the jaws of victory, car, nigeria, somalia worse than even clinton left it
china now claiming territories all over asia
even a border crisis in the US
and on and on

so in short i don't necessarily hate the man as much as hate the results of the man, and i use the word "man" loosely.
By:
polybot
When: 09 Aug 14 10:12
the shambolic affordable healthcare act
the non recovery despite trillions being printed
the 200 days spent playing golf
the offensive never ending indulgences of holidays costing millions while millions went on food stamps
the very close relationship with the brotherhood

hard to recall everything, so much actual corruption, in only 6 years.
By:
polybot
When: 09 Aug 14 10:20
the rapidly growing student debt time-bomb
the fascistic favouring of failed big corporations at the expense of the local, small, unfavoured or un-lobied
exceptions for the corporations and friends of big donors

who says he's done nothing in the last 6 years  Laugh
By:
EastofEden
When: 09 Aug 14 10:21
you dont half talk some shyte
By:
ebulGery
When: 09 Aug 14 13:21
and you definitely don't like Obama polybot!
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