posy 03 Aug 14 13:43 Joined: 18 Oct 03 | Topic/replies: 2,951 | Blogger: posy's blog
A major distinction between the two parties is the tories want to pull the proletariat upwards whilst labour want to drag down anyone competent enough to fend for themselves without sponging on the state
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Sure, that's why they've encouraged cheap labour to flood in from E Europe, forcing wages down and spreading the iniquity of zero hours contracts. Christ, some of you are either thicker than last week's mince or believe everything the Daily Mail prints. Or both.

Ramruma 03 Aug 14 10:31 Joined: 11 Dec 02 | Topic/replies: 5,268 | Blogger: Ramruma's blog
@posy -- I despise the Socialist politicians like Balls, Milliband ,Harman who have proved themselves incompetent time after time and can only get elected as a government through Scottish votes.

That is a myth. Even without Scotland, Labour would have won the 1997, 2001 and 2005 general elections, albeit with slightly reduced majorities.

It is a myth, one I have dispelled on here before, many times, here are the facts.

1945 Labour govt (Attlee)
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Labour majority: 146
Labour majority without any Scottish MPs in Parliament: 143
NO CHANGE WITHOUT SCOTTISH MPS


1950 Labour govt (Attlee)
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Labour majority: 5
Without Scottish MPs: 2
NO CHANGE


1951 Conservative govt (Churchill/Eden)
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Conservative majority: 17
Without Scottish MPs: 16
NO CHANGE


1955 Conservative govt (Eden/Macmillan)
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Conservative majority: 60
Without Scottish MPs: 61
NO CHANGE


1959 Conservative govt (Macmillan/Douglas-Home)
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Conservative majority: 100
Without Scottish MPs: 109
NO CHANGE


1964 Labour govt (Wilson)
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Labour majority: 4
Without Scottish MPs: -11
CHANGE: LABOUR MAJORITY TO CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY OF 1
(Con 280, Lab 274, Lib 5)


1966 Labour govt (Wilson)
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Labour majority: 98
Without Scottish MPs: 77
NO CHANGE


1970 Conservative govt (Heath)
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Conservative majority: 30
Without Scottish MPs: 55
NO CHANGE


1974 Minority Labour govt (Wilson)
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Labour majority: -33
Without Scottish MPs: -42
POSSIBLE CHANGE – LABOUR MINORITY TO CONSERVATIVE MINORITY
(Without Scots: Con 276, Lab 261, Lib 11, Others 16)


1974b Labour govt (Wilson/Callaghan)
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Labour majority: 3
Without Scottish MPs: -8
CHANGE: LABOUR MAJORITY TO LABOUR MINORITY
(Lab 278 Con 261 Lib 10 others 15)


1979 Conservative govt (Thatcher)
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Conservative majority: 43
Without Scottish MPs: 70
NO CHANGE


1983 Conservative govt (Thatcher)
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Conservative majority: 144
Without Scottish MPs: 174
NO CHANGE


1987 Conservative govt (Thatcher/Major)
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Conservative majority: 102
Without Scottish MPs: 154
NO CHANGE


1992 Conservative govt (Major)
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Conservative majority: 21
Without Scottish MPs: 71
NO CHANGE


1997 Labour govt (Blair)
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Labour majority: 179
Without Scottish MPs: 139
NO CHANGE


2001 Labour govt (Blair)
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Labour majority: 167
Without Scottish MPs: 129
NO CHANGE


2005 Labour govt (Blair/Brown)
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Labour majority: 66
Without Scottish MPs:  43
NO CHANGE


2010 Coalition govt (Cameron)
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Conservative majority: -38
Without Scottish MPs: 19
CHANGE: CON-LIB COALITION TO CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY

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Sources:
All UK general election results

'It doesn't matter who you vote for. you end up with the government'
G.K.Chesterton

If nobody votes do the present mob stay in, or is it a lawless free for all for 60,000,000 people ?

'Pull the proletariat upwards?' Are you having a laugh? This Gov't has fecked the poor over like no Gov't in history. Food banks, disabled people committing suicide, saving money by hurting the most vulnerable members of society, the waiting list for pip was and is, an outrage, done on purpose btw.
The bedroom tax is immoral and despicable, the banks get away with murder at the poor's expense, the utility companies also do as they like while the old go without heating, the tories are cvunts - always have been and always will be.

MisterBadger 03 Aug 14 18:17 Joined: 19 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 5,645 | Blogger: MisterBadger's blog
... I wouldn't waste my time voting.

well don't complain then


well it looks you complained as my post had been deleted! why would my post have been deleted? there was absolutely nothing offensive in it whatsoever, it simply has been deleted as the moderator must be a political anorak who has taken  exception to my opinion that voting is a waste of time and the two main parties are virtually the same, no point deleting my post I can type it twice, so strange

Tories win next election- bet of 2015.

I've never voted with an 'X' in a box, it's totally pointless.

All MPs are in it for the money, not to listen to what you want to say.

Didn't like what was happening where I lived, so over the space of 30 years, me and 150,000 other indigenous whites voted with our feet.

The only whites left are 1 or more of these 4:
old, unemployable, don't earn enough to get out, or eastern european.

I did, didn't I.

we certainly do. Does anybody want Balls back in at the till ffs.

fair enough MisterBadger, I honestly don't know why random posts like that get deleted, there was nothing offensives to anyone, not my style

Tony Broke  • August 4, 2014 5:13 PM BST 


if thee tories do get back in, and there's no chance but just for argument's sake: we may as well kiss goodbye to the welfare state for good.We'll be paying window tax next, plus pay-er hospital beds   labour are odds against for a majority so u are confident.

Then again I come from a family of grafters.....there's the difference.

themightymac

"No offence, but that`s how the Tories get in because of people like you. I can assure you that all the Tories vote".

City councils in many cities have Asian Labour candidates, resulting in a Labour hold due to most Asians being urged to vote by community leaders.

Leicester is this way inclined, as I would imagine parts of Bradford, Birmingham and London to be.

And do people really still believe the myth that MPs make the life changing decisions, rather than business, banksters, and lawyers?

Mighty Whites 2008 04 Aug 14 13:37 Joined: 27 May 06 | Topic/replies: 11,922 | Blogger: Mighty Whites 2008's blog
not sure if there is much difference between any of the parties they are all run by incompetents.

If labour get back in we can look forward to killer bugs in hospitals, more mid staff style hospitals scandals, exam inflation, the encouragement of pointless degrees, more layers of pointless bureaucracy, bombing and invasion of third world countries and the spending of money like drunken sailors. Maybe that is harsh on the sailors as at least they earned their money.

If the Tories get back in you can look forward to PRIVATISED killer bugs in hospitals.

"bombing and invasion of third world countries" There's NEVER been an imperialist Tory govt of course. Who do you think Blair learned from?

themightymac - Don't expect the rest of us to look after the likes of you.

Now do some work then.................................................................................

unless you live in a marginal don't even think about bothering to vote.

Then when you do vote: the MP cnunt you just voted in, will just follow the party message anyway, and ignore the very plebs who voted him in.

Five years later he /she will be trying to shake your hand in the street and asking for your vote -

Why do people find it necessary to say that somebody lives in a bedsit, amd how much tax they pay. The more tax you pay the bigger mug you are.

Why would I want to dodge paying my fair share of tax by employing some accountant to find loopholes in the system? I have Scruples.