8 months until a Labour govt

Great news for foreigners.

And UK dossers.

Are the Torys the only vote for anyone with a full time job these days.

Best news of all for the paedo`s, get a lot of sympathy from labour.

I despise the Socialist politicians like Balls, Milliband ,Harman who have proved themselves incompetent time after time and can only get elected as a government through Scottish votes. Cannot understand why anyone other than social security leeches would want labour to run the country. Don't get me wrong i'm not a tory cheerleader however they have the most important attribute of economic competence and don't pander to those feckless families who for generations have sponged off the state.

I predict that if labour gain power they will not complete a full term.

Events caused by their incompetence will bring them down and they will have to call an election.

Nigels making plans


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXNhL4J_S00

@posy -- I despise the Socialist politicians like Balls, Milliband ,Harman who have proved themselves incompetent time after time and can only get elected as a government through Scottish votes.

That is a myth. Even without Scotland, Labour would have won the 1997, 2001 and 2005 general elections, albeit with slightly reduced majorities.

I think when it comes to vote people will say better the devil we have now than the devil that bought the country to its knees, its not as though it was 10 years ago that labour completely ficked it all up.

@pumphol -- its not as though it was 10 years ago that labour completely ficked it all up.

A bit less than ten years since the global financial meltdown which screwed up most of the world and was not caused by Labour and did not even start in Britain.

Don't disagree Ramruna perhaps i should have made it clear that i'm  referring to the forthcoming election whereby if Labour win it will be due to the Scottish seats....obviously the 2010 election was lost on the Scottish vote.

Your missing my point, the country was in meltdown, whether labour had actually  anything to do with it to the  majority of voters is almost irrelevant, just feel when it comes to it  they will fail to gain enough key seats to win.

It will be close.

Could UKIP win it for Labour?

I very much doubt Labour will get in with Milliband in charge and don't underestimate people's hatred for how they ran the country last time.

Balls, Millibnd and Harman are massive liabilities for the Labour party.

CON    LAB     LIB


Seats before    210    349    62
Seats won    307    258    57
Seat change    Increase 97*    Decrease 91*    Decrease 5*
Popular vote    10,703,654    8,606,517    6,836,248
Percentage    36.1%    29.0%    23.0%

IF CORRECT TORIES GOT 2MILLION MORE VOTE THAN LABOUR
LAST TIME ROUND. SOURCE WIKI

AND 2005       LAB     CON      LIB

Seats before    403    165    52
Seats won    355^    198    62
Seat change    Decrease47^    Increase33*    Increase 11*
Popular vote    9,552,436    8,784,915    5,985,454
Percentage    35.2%    32.4%    22.0%
Swing    Decrease5.5%    Increase0.7%    Increase 3.7%

SHOWS THAT LABOUR NEED A FAR LESS AMOUNT OF VOTES
FOR OVERALL MAJORITY MADNESS IMO

The naivety of people who bought Labours line of being blameless for the economic damage they caused is truly astonishing but I suppose some people are so tribal in their politics they see no wrong on their side and nothing good with parties they oppose.

exactly, just like tory supporters

Lampus for PM

cameron couldnt see off gordon brown without cleggs help so dont see him getting a majority but either way the amount of debt this country is in all the leaders should hope they dont get in

A major distinction between the two parties is the tories want to pull the proletariat upwards whilst labour want to drag down anyone competent enough to fend for themselves without sponging on the state

I'm all for getting rid of the Tories but how the hell are you supposed to vote for Milliband and Balls after the mess they made last time.

frankly they all look unelectable

Frying pan or the fire.

Labour have already destroyed one generation with Gordon Browns idea that cheap foreign labour would benefit society.

If you vote ,THEY own you

... I wouldn't waste my time voting.

well don't complain then

i would have agreed with that in the past
but these days we do not have anyone really
to vote for.to be fair the none voters should be in power
as probably got a bigger percentage than either
of the big 2

Joke!

Referring to O.P..........where's your brains?

One month before Scotland becomes free of Tory rule for eternity.

Alex Salmon! Woohoo!!!!!!!

*d*

Maybe the electorate isn't quite as dumb as you think pandora1963.
Milliband and especially Balls are the Conservative's biggest assets.

Pandas enjoy munching raw fish

9 months shirley

Are the Torys the only vote for anyone with a full time job these days.

If the Tories had their way there wouldn't be any full time jobs, only zero hours contracts.

PS Learn the plurals rule.

Labour + wank

=

posy 03 Aug 14 13:43 Joined: 18 Oct 03 | Topic/replies: 2,951 | Blogger: posy's blog
A major distinction between the two parties is the tories want to pull the proletariat upwards whilst labour want to drag down anyone competent enough to fend for themselves without sponging on the state
......................................................................................................................


Sure, that's why they've encouraged cheap labour to flood in from E Europe, forcing wages down and spreading the iniquity of zero hours contracts. Christ, some of you are either thicker than last week's mince or believe everything the Daily Mail prints. Or both.

More chance of seeing the Loch Ness Monster than a Tory around these parts.

Ramruma 03 Aug 14 10:31 Joined: 11 Dec 02 | Topic/replies: 5,268 | Blogger: Ramruma's blog
@posy -- I despise the Socialist politicians like Balls, Milliband ,Harman who have proved themselves incompetent time after time and can only get elected as a government through Scottish votes.

That is a myth. Even without Scotland, Labour would have won the 1997, 2001 and 2005 general elections, albeit with slightly reduced majorities.

It is a myth, one I have dispelled on here before, many times, here are the facts.

1945 Labour govt (Attlee)
————————————
Labour majority: 146
Labour majority without any Scottish MPs in Parliament: 143
NO CHANGE WITHOUT SCOTTISH MPS


1950 Labour govt (Attlee)
————————————
Labour majority: 5
Without Scottish MPs: 2
NO CHANGE


1951 Conservative govt (Churchill/Eden)
——————————————————–
Conservative majority: 17
Without Scottish MPs: 16
NO CHANGE


1955 Conservative govt (Eden/Macmillan)
——————————————————–
Conservative majority: 60
Without Scottish MPs: 61
NO CHANGE


1959 Conservative govt (Macmillan/Douglas-Home)
————————————————————————
Conservative majority: 100
Without Scottish MPs: 109
NO CHANGE


1964 Labour govt (Wilson)
————————————
Labour majority: 4
Without Scottish MPs: -11
CHANGE: LABOUR MAJORITY TO CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY OF 1
(Con 280, Lab 274, Lib 5)


1966 Labour govt (Wilson)
————————————
Labour majority: 98
Without Scottish MPs: 77
NO CHANGE


1970 Conservative govt (Heath)
——————————————–
Conservative majority: 30
Without Scottish MPs: 55
NO CHANGE


1974 Minority Labour govt (Wilson)
————————————————
Labour majority: -33
Without Scottish MPs: -42
POSSIBLE CHANGE – LABOUR MINORITY TO CONSERVATIVE MINORITY
(Without Scots: Con 276, Lab 261, Lib 11, Others 16)


1974b Labour govt (Wilson/Callaghan)
—————————————————–
Labour majority: 3
Without Scottish MPs: -8
CHANGE: LABOUR MAJORITY TO LABOUR MINORITY
(Lab 278 Con 261 Lib 10 others 15)


1979 Conservative govt (Thatcher)
————————————————
Conservative majority: 43
Without Scottish MPs: 70
NO CHANGE


1983 Conservative govt (Thatcher)
————————————————
Conservative majority: 144
Without Scottish MPs: 174
NO CHANGE


1987 Conservative govt (Thatcher/Major)
——————————————————
Conservative majority: 102
Without Scottish MPs: 154
NO CHANGE


1992 Conservative govt (Major)
———————————————
Conservative majority: 21
Without Scottish MPs: 71
NO CHANGE


1997 Labour govt (Blair)
———————————–
Labour majority: 179
Without Scottish MPs: 139
NO CHANGE


2001 Labour govt (Blair)
———————————–
Labour majority: 167
Without Scottish MPs: 129
NO CHANGE


2005 Labour govt (Blair/Brown)
——————————————–
Labour majority: 66
Without Scottish MPs:  43
NO CHANGE


2010 Coalition govt (Cameron)
——————————————
Conservative majority: -38
Without Scottish MPs: 19
CHANGE: CON-LIB COALITION TO CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY

.

Sources:
All UK general election results

I blame the forever failing U.K. Education system.

'It doesn't matter who you vote for. you end up with the government'
G.K.Chesterton

Let a man walk ten miles steadily on a hot summer's day along a dusty English road, and he will soon discover why beer was invented.

Gilbert K. Chesterton

If nobody votes do the present mob stay in, or is it a lawless free for all for 60,000,000 people ?

If you don't like a man walk a mile in his shoes and then keep em. That'll pi55 him off.

'Pull the proletariat upwards?' Are you having a laugh? This Gov't has fecked the poor over like no Gov't in history. Food banks, disabled people committing suicide, saving money by hurting the most vulnerable members of society, the waiting list for pip was and is, an outrage, done on purpose btw.
The bedroom tax is immoral and despicable, the banks get away with murder at the poor's expense, the utility companies also do as they like while the old go without heating, the tories are cvunts - always have been and always will be.

Funny thing is some people think it will be different under milliband & balls,sorry to break the news itll be exactly the same but your mortgage payments will be higher

MisterBadger 03 Aug 14 18:17 Joined: 19 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 5,645 | Blogger: MisterBadger's blog
... I wouldn't waste my time voting.

well don't complain then


well it looks you complained as my post had been deleted! why would my post have been deleted? there was absolutely nothing offensive in it whatsoever, it simply has been deleted as the moderator must be a political anorak who has taken  exception to my opinion that voting is a waste of time and the two main parties are virtually the same, no point deleting my post I can type it twice, so strange

not sure if there is much difference between any of the parties they are all run by incompetents.

If labour get back in we can look forward to killer bugs in hospitals, more mid staff style hospitals scandals, exam inflation, the encouragement of pointless degrees, more layers of pointless bureaucracy, bombing and invasion of third world countries and the spending of money like drunken sailors. Maybe that is harsh on the sailors as at least they earned their money.

Tories win next election- bet of 2015.

well it looks you complained as my post had been deleted! why would my post have been deleted? there was absolutely nothing offensive in it whatsoever, it simply has been deleted as the moderator must be a political anorak who has taken  exception to my opinion that voting is a waste of time and the two main parties are virtually the same, no point deleting my post I can type it twice, so strange

I can assure I didn't get that post pulled - as you say, why would I? I don't know what happened but it was nothing to do with me. 

I've never voted with an 'X' in a box, it's totally pointless.

All MPs are in it for the money, not to listen to what you want to say.

Didn't like what was happening where I lived, so over the space of 30 years, me and 150,000 other indigenous whites voted with our feet.

The only whites left are 1 or more of these 4:
old, unemployable, don't earn enough to get out, or eastern european.

Did you move out of London? You kept that quiet.

I did, didn't I.

I've never voted with an 'X' in a box, it's totally pointless.

No offence, but that`s how the Tories get in because of people like you. I can assure you that all the Tories vote.

we certainly do. Does anybody want Balls back in at the till ffs.

if thee tories do get back in, and there's no chance but just for argument's sake: we may as well kiss goodbye to the welfare state for good.We'll be paying window tax next, plus pay-er hospital beds

fair enough MisterBadger, I honestly don't know why random posts like that get deleted, there was nothing offensives to anyone, not my style

no point voting here either Priti Patel got 15,000 majority out of 46,000 votes

Tony Broke  • August 4, 2014 5:13 PM BST 


if thee tories do get back in, and there's no chance but just for argument's sake: we may as well kiss goodbye to the welfare state for good.We'll be paying window tax next, plus pay-er hospital beds   labour are odds against for a majority so u are confident.

Never had it so good...........(well not for a long time) personally.

Then again I come from a family of grafters.....there's the difference.

Typical response from a Tory, only interested in yourself.

themightymac

"No offence, but that`s how the Tories get in because of people like you. I can assure you that all the Tories vote".

City councils in many cities have Asian Labour candidates, resulting in a Labour hold due to most Asians being urged to vote by community leaders.

Leicester is this way inclined, as I would imagine parts of Bradford, Birmingham and London to be.

And do people really still believe the myth that MPs make the life changing decisions, rather than business, banksters, and lawyers?

themightymac  • August 4, 2014 8:09 PM BST 


Typical response from a Tory, only interested in yourself. ....typical labour always wallowing in it.

Mighty Whites 2008 04 Aug 14 13:37 Joined: 27 May 06 | Topic/replies: 11,922 | Blogger: Mighty Whites 2008's blog
not sure if there is much difference between any of the parties they are all run by incompetents.

If labour get back in we can look forward to killer bugs in hospitals, more mid staff style hospitals scandals, exam inflation, the encouragement of pointless degrees, more layers of pointless bureaucracy, bombing and invasion of third world countries and the spending of money like drunken sailors. Maybe that is harsh on the sailors as at least they earned their money.

If the Tories get back in you can look forward to PRIVATISED killer bugs in hospitals.

"bombing and invasion of third world countries" There's NEVER been an imperialist Tory govt of course. Who do you think Blair learned from?

tony how will a labour government make things better?

themightymac - Don't expect the rest of us to look after the likes of you.

remember the labour cabinet minster (liam Bryne) left a message as he left office...... 'Good luck all the money has run out'.

Now do some work then...........................................................................

call me a taxi
I've never voted with an 'X' in a box, it's totally pointless.


themightymac
No offence, but that`s how the Tories get in because of people like you. I can assure you that all the Tories vote.

Tell me the last time the tories got in at West Ham, where I used to live. 

I now live in west Norfolk. Now tell me the last time that labour won the seat here.

Voting is only worth it if you have belief in your party candidate, and live in a marginal seat area, then you have a chance of nicking the seat, for what good it will do you.

I have belief in no MPs, not one.

No PM has ever done me any personal good since I was old enough to vote.

I lived my life my way, and it worked.

unless you live in a marginal don't even think about bothering to vote.

Then when you do vote: the MP cnunt you just voted in, will just follow the party message anyway, and ignore the very plebs who voted him in.

Five years later he /she will be trying to shake your hand in the street and asking for your vote -

themightymac - Don't expect the rest of us to look after the likes of you.

Believe me, you are a pauper compared to me. You probably live in a bedsit. Paid more tax in a week than you pay in a year.

Why do people find it necessary to say that somebody lives in a bedsit, amd how much tax they pay. The more tax you pay the bigger mug you are.

Dewey`s that lazy, that she`ll not play at cards because there are spades in the pack

Why would I want to dodge paying my fair share of tax by employing some accountant to find loopholes in the system? I have Scruples.

You can't put scruples in a pie.

That`s true, but I can sleep at night.

So can I.

So can I. Like you fellas I'm up so late I'm exhaausted when I turn in.

It's no wonder Eo, 17 + posts each and every day for over four years.

Be careful what you wish for. Because this is what you get . . . !

Harold Wilson
James Callaghan
Michael Foot
Neil Kinnock
John Smith
Tony Blair
Gordon Brown
Ed Milliband

With one exception, all clueless.

Which one?

How clever do you imagine Cameron to be? Rich parents + Eton doesn't guarantee anything, except that the family money will continue to multiply itself. "We're all in this together".

Must be the one that died relatively young and didn`t achieve his potential.

Michael Foot would have made a great PM but for the tabloids ridiculing his appearance and attire. An extremely clever man.

Well said Alias, would make one laugh, "We`re all in this together".

I think John Smith could have been a good prime minister....the rest just a bunch of freeloaders and insignificant muppetts compared to Thatcher and Churchill

posy - 200% agree with you - definately would have changed my views.

Foot was one of the great post war orators and Kinnock was also very good on his day. Doesn't mean they'd have been any good in the top job though.

muppetts compared to Thatcher and Churchill

There were no muppets (note spelling) when Churchill was around. I wonder what he'd have called the **** Thatcher.

dewey, you can't agree more than 100%. DEFINITELY.

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Kinnock was also very good on his day at falling backwards into the sea.


I agree

True but he also delivered possibly the greatest piece of political oratory in the last 30 years when he ripped militant and Hatton to shreds at the party conference.

wrong thread

signed

this pandora never did fathom out the betting game did he

Alias  • August 5, 2014 10:57 PM BST 
muppetts compared to Thatcher and Churchill
There were no muppets (note spelling) when Churchill was around. I wonder what he'd have called the **** Thatcher.

He would have called her Lady Thatcher. HTH.

Facts   
21 Apr 15 05:17 
Except you all would have been screaming he's too much out of the Tony Blair mould. And you would have been correct. Which is why he wasn't chosen as the Labour leader. But Ed 's of the a' right stuff'

Get used to him guys. He's your next Prime Minister