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By:
ebulGery
When: 24 Jul 14 22:08
Albert Pierrepoint, Britain's last official hangman, always prided himself on doing a good clean job
it was always done quickly

He executed over 400 people, including those after the Nuremburg trials

I watched a program once, when the chap to be hanged, said I have always wanted to meet you, but not in these circumstances
bang he was gone

I don't know if that was in the book, or it was fiction, I thought it was a good line to go out on
I think I may read that mightymac, sounds interesting
By:
ebulGery
When: 24 Jul 14 22:12
imagine going to the job centre and when asked what was your previous job
saying public executioner, but we have now abolished the death penaltyq1 so I am out of a job

have you got anything for me?
By:
ebulGery
When: 24 Jul 14 22:26
It was quite a skilled job, he had to estimate the prisoners weight, so to attach the right weight to them,
and estimate the drop distance

if this not done right, the condemned is either strangled to death, very painful
or their head is completely decapitated messy.

Pierpont prided himself on getting this right, and the speed as well, a door opened in the prisoners cell
they were immediately hooded, hands tied and rushed to the execution trap, weight attached, then bang, before they knew what was happening,
the cell was next to the execution chamber, although the condemned never knew this this

He must have questioned himself at the end of his life, and capital punishment, his entire life devoted
to executing people, as you say mightmac
By:
Alias
When: 24 Jul 14 22:27
The stuff they use to euthanise animals works more or less instantly, doesn't it? Surely they could use a similar concoction.
By:
ebulGery
When: 24 Jul 14 22:31
This is why I question the current method of lethal injection Alias?????

Regretfully they have extended it on animals, my cat was injected to put him to sleep, he remained awake
they then shaved his paw, put in a tube and completed the process

I very near punched that VET...although it may be standard practice now
It used to be just a quick injection once
By:
mobo
When: 24 Jul 14 22:39
make it last a long time
like ....................
By:
ebulGery
When: 24 Jul 14 22:56
some of us have moved on from that

also the US remains a very lawless society, so a deterrent to murder, it does not work
By:
Slicer
When: 25 Jul 14 08:00
I have just been informed of the drugs they used-midazolam and hydromorphone-NO WONDER!!!!!
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 25 Jul 14 08:13
ebulGery
24 Jul 14 21:57
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I watched an interesting program recently
about someone whose job it was to maintain and service electric chairs

When people challenged him on this, how could you do such a job?
he said the electric chairs I service have become so run down, the death process was extended
his comment was the punishment was death, not death by torture, which was in effect happening

Sadly he lost his job, because he was trapped into being a holocaust denier, someone showed him a part of Auschwitz
and said in your professional opinion could you gas people here, he answered honestly and said no
so they said well that proves the holocaust never happened...I think he had been set up myself

Yes electric chairs remain, although not usually used now, they must have found someone else to service an maintain them,
or they just don't bother


I thought he serviced electric chairs
By:
Alias
When: 25 Jul 14 08:30
also the US remains a very lawless society, so a deterrent to murder, it does not work


You can say that again. BOTH sides of the law. I'd hate to be at the mercy of the US justice system. Even worse, at the mercy of the "authority" in Guantanamo.
By:
ebulGery
When: 25 Jul 14 09:29
I thought he serviced electric chairs

yes he did. He became seduced by the idea he was an expert on execution techniques.
He did not seem a bad chap, he got himself into something he should not have.
I have forgotten the name of the program. I should have left that bit out.
The point was death in electric chairs is not instantaneous, especially when they have not
been properly serviced.
By:
ebulGery
When: 25 Jul 14 09:32
I believe the Holocaust did happen
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Jul 14 09:56
Death by lethal injection usually works fine.
Unfortunately the drugs they've always used in America are manufactured in the UK or the EU, and we have stopped supplying them to the States because we don't approve of the death penalty.

Now the drugs they are using instead aren't nearly so good at dispatching the victims.

So it's the do-gooders the UK who are to blame for the suffering.
By:
ebulGery
When: 25 Jul 14 09:57
you appear to be right Dr Crippen

To me shooting is the best method, bullet through back of head or firing squad
and hanging is perfectly ok.
By:
ebulGery
When: 25 Jul 14 09:58
why change?
By:
Super Hans
When: 25 Jul 14 10:04
Why not hang them whilst in an electric chair facing a firing squad.

Surely the quickest method available.

Knowing the yanks would also be a top rated TV show.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Jul 14 10:24
The guillotine is an excellent tool for an execution.

Great entertainment too.

Families sitting around eating pop and crisps until the victim arrives in a cart accompanied by boos and sneers.

Then the victim's crimes are read out. More boos and sneers.
Followed by the walk to the execution platform.
The victim's head is placed under the guillotine and the drums start to roll - they stop.
The blade comes down, the head pops into the basket and a great cheer erupts from the crowd.
Marvellous stuff, if they sold tickets they'd make a fortune.
By:
David Fishwick Minibus Sales
When: 25 Jul 14 12:57
Plain
By:
call me a taxi
When: 25 Jul 14 13:36
They should be placed in a room with nothing else in it apart from a rusty jagged edge knife.

Then play Leonard Cohen records 24/7 at full blast.

If he hasn't killed himself in 7 days, let in one male rat and one female rat, who are both hungry. 

He either kills them, or in two months, they will have multiplied, and they eat him.

All on pay per view of course.
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 14 13:52
recommended reading
A Handbook on Hanging by Charles Duff

"All very proper to be read and kept by every family"

"Not very long ago hanging was very popular. A hundred and sixty years ago there were 200 offences for which a man, woman or child could be hanged" (in England).

"One could be hanged for cutting down a tree or associating with gypsies" Excited
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 14 14:05
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Handbook-Hanging-Being-Introduction-Execution/dp/0752460684
By:
Ken Masters
When: 25 Jul 14 14:39
Excuse me dear, is this the "Where is Mc Moonbeam" thread?
By:
Slicer
When: 25 Jul 14 14:51
Right forum, wrong muppet , you thread!
By:
Stevie Strikes
When: 25 Jul 14 14:53
Laugh
By:
ebulGery
When: 25 Jul 14 22:19
Super Hans  • July 25, 2014 10:04 AM BST
Why not hang them whilst in an electric chair facing a firing squad.


brilliant, you have found the answer Hans
By:
ebulGery
When: 25 Jul 14 22:20
one of that lot should surely kill someone in less than two hours
By:
Aunty Post
When: 27 Jul 14 09:50
"The guillotine is an excellent tool for an execution".

During "The French Revolution" whole families went to these spectacles.

Programmes were handed out detailing the order of the condemned, and apparently the stench and flies were terrible.

It was said that some heads were responsive for up to thirty seconds after the chop.

The guillotine was also used by the Nazis, on tens of thousands of people.
By:
Mexico
When: 27 Jul 14 10:02
Portillo did a programme for BBC a few years ago regarding different execution methods.

Suggested using nitrogen as an alternative to the various current methods




http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/broadband/tx/executions/
By:
flushgordon1
When: 27 Jul 14 10:08
THey euthanise dogs cats horses with an overdose of barbiturates basically ,why cant they do it with humans,
Or why not a humane killer deadbolt gun like they use in slaughterhouses or if their jewish or muslim why not just cut their throats , i mean they say it does not hurt the animals give them a choice and see how many take the knife.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 27 Jul 14 10:15
I still come back to previous comment, that the condemned should be anesthetised first,
and then whatever most convenient, and reliable procedure be used to terminate their life!

I mean that the whole procedure could be carried out in the operating theatre.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 27 Jul 14 10:25
Were their victims given the courtesy of anesthesia before they were raped ,beaten,shot,stabbed,throttled etc?
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 27 Jul 14 11:13
"It was said that some heads were responsive for up to thirty seconds after the chop."

Surprised
By:
Slicer
When: 27 Jul 14 11:15
And spoke more sense than some forumites on the Politics forum!
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 27 Jul 14 11:51
This thread is on A Road To Nowhere
By:
flushgordon1
When: 27 Jul 14 12:00
Is it a new Springsteen song title.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 27 Jul 14 13:46
flushgordon1
27 Jul 14 10:25   
Were their victims given the courtesy of anesthesia before they were raped ,beaten,shot,stabbed,throttled etc?


The luvvies won't like that one.
By:
ebulGery
When: 27 Jul 14 14:50
I am not a luvvie but I don't
I believe punishment should deterrent not revenge

otherwise we will end up back at burning people at the stake if we are not careful
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