the immigrants apprentice

is nobody else watching this rubbish??

yes, why is it rubbish? Just stating facts. Too many immigrants.

what facts? all ive seen so far is english people moaning they cant get a job and the dance hall has closed down. probably in about 1958. dozy old duffer.

id give marilyn one any day. a job i mean.

well i only switched on at 9-30. Unfortunately missed the first half. Seen no moaning so far. Just decent white people stating what 1000's think.

i bet marilyn is flexible

Who's Marilyn?

the french girl.

Nick and Margaret ain't that smart.

Started off by stating 13% of UK population were immigrants, then said it was one in three in London.

Then she wondered why young immigrants came to work in London but not people from other parts of the UK.

Probably a condition of her contract for the programme that she does n't have to go north of the Watford Gap.

Oh right, mainly listening, not watching. I'd give her one. What's she look like?

id rather have her waiting for me than the english bloke. harsh, but true!

missed a trick here. should have put the english team against the immigrants team in challenges. an apprentice challenge and an its a knockout style running about in bear suits one. probably no stuart hall doing the commentary though.

It's not really comparing like with like though.  Marilyn is just here for a few years to learn the language, live in a different country and earn a few bob so more of a traveller backpacker student type so she'll live like that as it's part of the experience.

The guy from Romford is looking for something permanent and long term.

The days of young working class lads being able to take a job, progress, have security, be able to get their own place, raise a family, have a decent pension at the end of their working life are pretty much over.

In the days of my parents, my in laws - that was the norm.

ReaseHeath  • July 15, 2014 9:48 PM BST 


Nick and Margaret ain't that smart.

they ain't daft

agree squares. British lad was thick as fook.

the problem with working class brits is theyre stupid. not sure why thats the fault of immigrants?

that lad had been out of work for 2 years (if I heard right) and wasn't on the books of any job agencies, I mean for ffs. Was there this many thick folk in the uk 40 years ago?

Did not see any of this was sir Alan in it?

loads of foreign students here, and most of em speak english a lot better than half of the working class english do. its hardly surprising they cant get a job. its convenient blaming their lack of skills on immigrants. lazy and stupid, of course they cant get a job ffs.

right about Ilford though went through it the other week

The great moral decline, we`re currently in the middle of it.

have you ever asked an english shopworker anything? its like trying to have a conversation with a zombie. they couldnt give a feck. and theyre the ones who have jobs, imagine what the ones who dont are like!

How many places of worship do you see on council estates? They`re all boarded up now.

can anyone comment on my question about number half wits compared to 40 yes ago?

years

sideshowbob  • July 15, 2014 10:16 PM BST 


have you ever asked an english shopworker anything? its like trying to have a conversation with a zombie. they couldnt give a feck. and theyre the ones who have jobs, imagine what the ones who dont are like! Laugh

agree totally, some of ffs.

no wonder Wonga are flourishing I suspect 75% of the people using them, haven't got a clue if you asked them about the interest they are paying.

i was only a toddler 40 years ago. i dunno. id say there were a lot more jobs for thick people. mining, manual labour etc. the world has moved on, working class people havent. well, some have progressed and some have gone backwards.

can anyone comment on my question about number half wits compared to 40 years ago?

Youngsters don`t seem to read books like we used to. Is everything too easy now, it`s just a click away, the answers that is, two more clicks and it`s forgotton if you follow me.

^^^ agree 100% now they are in the call centres no wonder miners had it in for thatcher , they knew they weren't capable of doing anything else.

can anyone comment on my question about number half wits compared to 40 yes ago?

Im sure there were just as many 40 years ago, but menial jobs were easy to find.
Now with automation and the 6-8 million growth in population, the menial jobs are going to those with a degree

its benefits culture. generations of families have been tought they can just sit on their arse all day watching telly and still get enough money to buy tv's, games consoles, ****, booze and crack. the harder life bites back at them, the weaker they get cos they havent got the mental strength to actually do summat for themselves. no govt has ever tackled it head on.

lol. tought! i probably meant taught. i type too fast.

on that basis....when did the rot set in? ^^^

bob - I'm not sure benefits will pay for all that lot, will it?

not now, but it used to.

There are certainly less jobs for thick people, and even then the workload has to be light.

One bloke the other day only had two tasks this week, put a woman in charge of an inquiry, heard the uproar about conflict of interest and got her to step aside before anyone noticed.

Cabinet re-shuffle was yesterday`s job, put more women in and one of the bitch`s got into the wrong f*cking car

Speaks posh too.

benefits used to be quite decent back in the early 90. many people were better off being on the dole, getting all the housing benefits etc than working. obviously prices of everything have gone up like buggery in recent years.

lol politicians have always been idiots. not many would argie otherwise.

argie!

^^^ too much world cup (nap)

i messi'd it up

lol.

most politicians and benefit families actually have a lot in common. both are so used to having everything handed to them on a plate, theyre stuck in their own comfortable little bubble. neither really live in the real world. obviously at completely different ends of the economic scale.

sideshowbob
15 Jul 14 22:00   
missed a trick here. should have put the english team against the immigrants team in challenges.

I worked in a well known brewery distribution centre that tried that. 

Picking loads, goods in, goods out, loading drays and stock checks. Everybody had to work in every aspect.

3 shifts of Englishmen versus 1 shift of almost all africans.

It was a disaster. Whoever followed the african shift had to finish their work before starting their own work, it may have only been half an hour on some nights, but with 18 on a shift, that still equated to over a days work the following shift had to do before they started their own shift. On busy nights it couldn't be done, so overtime had to be paid.   

As you'd expect, they got the piss taken out of them. The 'experiment' only lasted 2 weeks, then instead of being sacked for being too slow, the whole shift rota started from scratch, with an equal mumber of africans on each shift.

You wouldn't believe how thick SOME of them are.

Try this exercise:

Loading 12 pallets of lager onto a lorry for 3 deliveries:

Delivery 1 was for 2 pallets
delivery 2 was for 6 pallets
delivery 3 was for 4 pallets.

The fork lift truck has 4 forks, and picks up two pallets at a time.

The driver does the straps and the curtains.

6 lifts, and you're done.

Assuming you can drive a 'double handler' fork truck, how long do you think it would take you?

Sideshowbob thinks he isn`t working class, my god no wonder this country is in a mess
when you have idiots like him looking down on other idiots.

why am i an idiot?

Not only are you an idiot, you do not even know why you are an idiot!...
and you are working class.

serious question. i mean, what does it take to not be an idiot?
i have a degree. i was a computer programmer in my teensi have a high iq. ive worked for myself nearly all my adult life. i have 150k in the bank. so what would qualify me as being "not an idiot"?

and what would qualify me as not being working class?

its easy to say thing. i can say youre a tomato. does that make you a tomato?

just tell me what would make me not an idiot. if you want, i'll challenge you to an independant iq test for both of us. and i'll bet you 10k i'll win. are you up for it? tell you what, i'll bet 10k to your 1k. should be an easy payday for you, seeing as im an idiot.

Of course we are all idiots in our own way, but some of us recognise this and are in recovery.
Perhaps there could be such a thing as idiots anonymous.. Hello my name bob and i am an idiot.

you still havent answered the question.

My IQ is very low.

or told me why im working class...

not that i ever said that i wasnt, in the first place...

I guessed.

not that question, the question what would it would take for me to not be an idiot? i mean im not likely to turn into stephen hawking anytime soon, but apart from that...

ok try and understand that possibly someone in a very good job, with lots of money
might be a complete fool. lets say for ex, Boris Johnson. Now i know people like
to assume that Boris plays the fool...but this is just a ploy, he is even more
stupid than he appears!
And yet he is sooo successful.

Then again you may have someone living onthe streets, an ex teacher or busisnesman
who is very clever and talented...this is life.

im not sure if youre being sarcastic or not. i have no idea how intelligent or otherwise he is. it is quite hard to avoid being "succesful" if youre born into the right family though.

i was born into nothing. never been given anything in my entire life. i was the loser kid at school in the 10 year out of date badly fitting clothes. everything ive achieved, which isnt much in the great scheme of things, has been done through my own determination not to be a victim of my circumstances. it would have been easy to be a criminal or a drug addict. it was what everybody expected from me anyway, even my own family.

Yes the working classes who do well are always the worst

when i said "working class idiots" i didnt really mean it in an intelligence way. i was lucky in that i had brains, but they arent essential. loads of working class kids do well for themselves through hard work. its the ones who havent got that in them that is the problem, and im not even blaming them really. more their parents and the benefit culture of the 80s/90s.

There is no difference between those who do well and those who don`t, circumstances
and luck...everyone will work hard if they have a decent  and fairly secure job
where they can plan for the future... this is not really possible for nay thousands of
people.

sideshowbob
i was born into nothing.
it would have been easy to be a criminal or a drug addict. it was what everybody expected from me anyway, even my own family.

Nice family you have.

I've got £150k and 5p in the bank, btw.

hmm. i cant agree with that. i see loads of teenagers who are agressive, angry, lazy ****s. a lot of shopworkers are rude and disinterested. ok, if i worked in the co op, id be rude and disinterested too. but then i wouldnt do it. if you choose to do that job, even if its only a means to an end whilst youre at uni or whatever, would it hurt to at least try to not be rude to customers or look like youd rather be dead than working there??

I don`t blame teenagers for being aggressive, they are the first generation that is going to do worse than their parents, and it will be much worse.

i also see a lot who are polite and cheerful. if you can be polite and cheerful in a sh1t job like that, id say youre more likely to do well in everything you do. id be terrible at anything like that, which is why i knuckled down at what i have done. cos i knew i would be fecked if i had to work for somebody else, havent got the right attitude for it.

No kidding.

well i dont blame them, im aggressive myself. but channelling it towards customers when youre paid to serve them isnt gonna get you very far. be nice, get through the day, then put some heavy metal on and take it out on a punchbag or summat. were all angry at plenty of things, but we dont all go around being horrible to people we dont even know.

YOU do! 

You wouldn't believe how thick SOME of them are.

Try this exercise:

Loading 12 pallets of lager onto a lorry for 3 deliveries:

Delivery 1 was for 2 pallets
delivery 2 was for 6 pallets
delivery 3 was for 4 pallets.

The fork lift truck has 4 forks, and picks up two pallets at a time.

The driver does the straps and the curtains.

6 lifts, and you're done.

Assuming you can drive a 'double handler' fork truck, how long do you think it would take you?

No fork lift truck drivers on here then?

10 mins taxi

Lend us a tenner bob

10 minutes tops, Shane, yes.

All the lager was the same brand, all the pallets were the same aize, so the loading order was irrelevant.

But the african was trying to work out that he had to reverse the loading order so that the first drop was on the back.

It was over 15 minutes before the first two pallets were on the dray.

You should have seen these people perform with a 15 drop dray of mixed goods, it was pathetic.