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Stevie Strikes
01 Jul 14 09:53
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I just remembered.  After all this time.

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By:
The Leopard
When: 01 Jul 14 10:30
Are you laughing at all those he abused?
By:
Stevie Strikes
When: 01 Jul 14 15:36
Of course not - but I can't believe there aren't a significant number of opportunisits around this.
By:
ebulGery
When: 01 Jul 14 15:39
I believe it is too long ago to be sure of the truth...these charges should have lapsed
By:
jed.davison
When: 02 Jul 14 15:28
Far from it, there can be no statute of limitations for people who molest children, because that urge simply does not go away.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 02 Jul 14 16:39
Nobody should be charged 30- 40 years after an offence especially when the accused cant give a date within a couple of years of when it was supposed to have happened.
By:
RickiBobby
When: 02 Jul 14 17:09
Not even those who experimented on the Jews and gassed them in the concentration camps?
They should know that no matter how long they will be  hunted down until their death.
Savilles grave site should be dug up and his coffin dumped into the top of an active volcano.
Harris should be hung for his crimes.
By:
posy
When: 02 Jul 14 17:15
It'll be difficult for him to ever show his face in public again and once he's in prison likely to be on suicide watch. Absolutely right that the prosecution of these creeps continue.
By:
RickiBobby
When: 02 Jul 14 17:22
If Harris could be hung it would send a clear message out to those thinking about committing such hideous crimes.
By:
portmanpark
When: 02 Jul 14 17:57
posy.........wouldnt be surprised if he topped himself before friday..........mind you i said the same about max clifford
By:
crags
When: 02 Jul 14 18:03
Did we ever find out why he tied that kangaroo down?
By:
curious-cat
When: 02 Jul 14 18:18
Is it enough that unconnected women come forward and say they were molested when they are likely to get large sums of money for someone to be found guilty ?

And there was basically a search asking for people to contact the enquiry.

Shouldn't there be more evidence ?
By:
curious-cat
When: 02 Jul 14 18:22
The one who said she became an alcoholic reportedly asked RH for £25,000 before reporting him to the police.

I once was involved in a car accident ... at the court case the other driver produced a doctor's report which said he had received a back injury.
By:
curious-cat
When: 02 Jul 14 18:23
The only problem the report was dated one day before the accident took place. Grin
By:
curious-cat
When: 02 Jul 14 18:23
^ was
By:
flushgordon1
When: 02 Jul 14 20:12
When i was 14 i used to deliver groceries on a saturday morning ,one gay this married lass gave me the wink did i complain did i fook was i molested ? EVery saturday for  11 months until they moved i was unconsolable and packed the job in.
By:
mange
When: 02 Jul 14 20:12
Fink the Queen took him to her house ...............to stop him doing it
By:
mange
When: 02 Jul 14 20:16
By the way...........Im still waiting for the Jimmy  Savile money.....................this is for the damage by second hand smoke.............
By:
ebulGery
When: 03 Jul 14 01:11
My view reflects that of Barbara Hewson, a leading barrister

Who says Yewtree is destroying the rule of law

It is grotesque, persecuting old men, for something that may or not have happened many years ago
by normal rules of evidence, nobody would be convicted of these charges

It is doing our society no good....we should concentrate on the here and now, protect our children now!
By:
ebulGery
When: 03 Jul 14 01:13
just my own opinion of course

I accept other people have strong views on this
By:
ebulGery
When: 03 Jul 14 01:15
The fact we need to so far into the past to try and find paedophiles
suggests we have very few now?

or do we?, that would my main concern
By:
Ivor
When: 03 Jul 14 01:39
If finger-printing solves crime - the thieves wear gloves. When they couldn't get a bomb on a plance they took liquids. If security cameras watch everywhere - the criminals wear balaclavas. 
Can paedos stop being paedos - doubt it, but they can get better at avoiding detection.
By:
ebulGery
When: 03 Jul 14 02:44
Well there are always bad people about

But frankly if you are victim you do need to report this within some reasonable time
not wait 40/50 years until the alleged abuser are in the 80's this is degrading us

As I said my view is that of Barbara Hewson
I believe these allegations should be considered lapsed, due to the passage of time
If paedos are still at it, how about we protect our children now!

or maybe castrate them, I dunno
By:
xmoneyx
When: 03 Jul 14 03:00
I asked rolf to put his tongue down my throat

instead he sang stairway to heaven

contacting no win no fee lawyer
By:
Facts
When: 03 Jul 14 08:31
^ do you think it's funny to trivialise the horror that these children suffered at the hands of a serial molester ?
By:
naydam
When: 03 Jul 14 09:01
Well, in MY opinion, the vast majority of these serial offenders victims NEVER come forward. They will have their own, personal reasons for this. Some may have the same attitude that is expressed here that 'it didn't actually harm them'. Some will feel that they had done 'dirty' things. Some will not want their family members to share their anguish. Some will just keep quiet because it is easiest to do so. Some will ,keep quiet because there isn't any point in speaking out because they will still not be believed and will probably be accused of lying in pursuit of a payout, thereby adding insult to injury.
To be honest, most 'historic' sex offences reach a verdict of 'not guilty' because there is no forensic or supporting evidence to the charge. It comes down to simple contradiction and, therefore, the only safe verdict is one of 'not guilty'.
Maybe 'Not Proven' would bring a modicum of redress to the accusers/victims.

Anyway, you can bet that it's still going on now and that many of today's assaults will resurface in years to come and the victims will not be believed. They will be accused of chasing compensation and they will learn that, when you have been assaulted, it's best just to say nothing.
It's just like uncle Fester said: "Nobody will believe you 'cos you're only a kid". And so ad infinitum. Sad
By:
RickiBobby
When: 03 Jul 14 09:55
Theres nothing funny about what Saville and Harris did and it shouldn't be trivialised with light hearted comments. Disrespectful to the victims.
By:
Clungehungry
When: 03 Jul 14 10:08
Of course it isn't you tool.
By:
curious-cat
When: 03 Jul 14 10:32
The witch hunts that took place long ago seem similar.

Nowadays we have become accustomed to some kind of forensic evidence or witness(es) before anyone is found guilty.

As far as I know there were no witnesses just women lining up to say they had been molested / indecently assaulted many years ago. The chief accuser ( the daughter's friend ) only reported RH when he turned down her request for £25,000. As RH admits an affair with her when she reached 18 ... the earlier assaults are her word against his.

When the accusers are now expected to take RH to the cleaners you can see the motive for them to come forward.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 03 Jul 14 10:41
witch hunt ?

he wrote a letter to the father,confirming sexual relations
By:
curious-cat
When: 03 Jul 14 10:46
with an adult ... not an offence.
By:
RickiBobby
When: 03 Jul 14 10:46
Some of the acts Rolf Harris did were too disturbed to be described in any detail on national TV even after the trial.Hardly a witch hunt outing a monster. As far as her being 18 , even if she was surely if would set alarm bells ringing when a man admits that despite being in his 50's he's involved in sexual activity with someone more than 30 years his junior and his daughters best friend.
By:
naydam
When: 03 Jul 14 10:52
Well, it IS disrespectful to the victims! It is disrespectful to treat the invasion of their privacy and the invasion of their bodies. It is NOT funny. It's about as far away from funny as you can get.
The long-term psychological impact may not be apparent. The victims may not even realise that it has had an effect on them but I would reckon that the signs are there, buried deep within their wall.

That's one of the problems with the brain...there is no 'delete' button. Time will usually blur the images and dull the senses attached to memories whether good or bad. Unfortunately, although the actual event may fade the reaction sometimes never does. It can haunt the victims for the rest of their lives and affect everything they subsequently do...or don't do.

At least bringing your molester to court and telling the world of the other side of an apparent 'nice family guy'. It brings them the satisfaction of showing the perpetrator that he may well have had his bit of sordid satisfaction...and if he wasn't ashamed of doing it then, he shouldn't be ashamed of it now!"

As a Brucie Bonus......every now and then, one of these paedophiles is actually found 'guilty'.
Not often, but it can happen.
By:
curious-cat
When: 03 Jul 14 13:01
Almost everyone seemed to know Saville was at it ... and forgive me if I'm wrong but didn't JS publish details of an underage sexual encounter in a book. Newspapers were ready to publish articles but backed off under the threat of being sued.

I've yet to read of anyone who knew Rolf Harris saying they thought he was dodgy.

As soon as Yewtree started appealing for victims to come forward I thought they would attract a lot of bogus complaints. My comparison with the witch trials is that in those days when up to 500 'witches' were executed it must have seemed a way to attack someone you didn't like or had a grievance against.

The jury were possible convinced by 12 unconnected women coming forward ... I wasn't there so perhaps their evidence was convincing ... but before accepting RH was guilty I would have liked a bit more evidence than that which I have read.

I'm still waiting for someone to post concrete evidence of RH's guilt on this thread.
By:
portmanpark
When: 03 Jul 14 13:08
cc........was 12 charges.........7 by the woman who he went on to have an affair....so much less than 12
By:
call me a taxi
When: 03 Jul 14 14:10
RickiBobby
02 Jul 14 17:22   
If Harris could be hung it would send a clear message out to those thinking about committing such hideous crimes.


No it wouldn't.
It never deterred murderers before 1965.
By:
FlowerMyth
When: 03 Jul 14 14:25
No, he's right, it would send a clear message - that if you're going to get hanged for molesting a child you may well murder them as well.
By:
RickiBobby
When: 03 Jul 14 14:31
Those molested were too scared to expose the molestors, if they killed that person it would make them easier to catch their a lot more slimy to fall for that.  It's a different world now Taxi , the death penalty would scare some of these scum bags off though accept not all.
The likes of Harris and Clifford won't commit suicide ,they' ll probably look at prison as an opportunity to abuse more people, even if its now got to be men.
By:
ebulGery
When: 03 Jul 14 14:56
xmoneyx  • July 3, 2014 10:41 AM BST
witch hunt ?


I believe so too xmoneyx

The problem with witch hunts is everybody joins in and everything is believed

still people are entitled to their views
Since I was not actually there, witnessing these allegations, I cant really say yes or no
neither do I believe can anybody else tbh
By:
moisok
When: 03 Jul 14 14:57
there seems to be an over ephasis on yewtree etc but the gangs of molesters seem to get a whole lot less publicity and there was up to 50 odd investigations going on in the north into them!!!
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