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Iraq now over, Libya over, possibly we started the one in Syria I don't know about that, ok
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just my opinion akabula
although you can check my history references |
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We are not fighting in Libya, Russia backed us off, or I think we would be
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sorry Syria
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Hold on Iraq !
I thought the first war was in response to the invasion of Kuwait, Libya nothing to do with Israel whatsoever, then Syria !!! the last two were to do with the Arab spring nothing to do with Israel, I am actually annoyed with myself for responding to this total crap tbh ![]() |
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seems like 0.2% of the worlds population gets blamed for everything, I'm waiting to see who's first to blame them for world poverty
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I am talking about the Invasion of Iraq, nothing to do with Kuwait
Why bring down Gadhafi? Arab spring, well who knows, you don't know what was behind that |
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My comments on the current situation have been censored
I accept Obama is trying to help Iraq though |
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Its not me that blames 0.2 of the world population for everything, its everybody else
if you look at the history of the Jews outside Palestine, have you any idea of the prejudice which used to exist in this country But two wrongs never make a right, I not going to pretend things are not happening if they are it is opinion though you are free to disagree |
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ebulGery 23 Jun 14 23:49
Its not me that blames 0.2 of the world population for everything, its everybody else ![]() On that note I bid you goodnight |
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My theories never look so good in the morning, when I am sober
![]() hardly any worse than the WMD claim are they????????????? At the moment it looks as if Isis are annexing the whole of Northern Iraq, with nobody able to stop them I have some faith in Obama's motives...but he needs to get this one right |
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ebul.... thought you said we should leave them all to it...
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did I???
![]() if we had left them alone in the first place none of this would be happening we should not make it worse if we can make it better fine, I can see one way perhaps, but post would be censored neither am I the president on the United States |
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My suggestion for making it better was partition
...which if you think, is what in effect is happening now but if I go in to this too much my post is censored. |
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Are you talking about Israel or Iraq?
I will admit, you lost me from 23:49 last night |
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That's the Witching hour or for some the wish I never had a drink hour.
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ebulGery 23 Jun 14 23:43
Arab spring, well who knows, you don't know what was behind that Well could be people were slightly fed up of dictatorships & rose up against it, whatever you think of Israel it was the only democracy in the region at the time & would not have been behind this, I am surprised anyone drunk or sober could think that. |
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I have clearly said Iraq..now
what has happened in the past has happened How does one bring peace to this region? My suggestion , if they let me post is draw a strong defensive line around Shia and Kurdish areas, supported by full US air power you have in effect got a partitioned country.....we may want to leave it like that in terms of long term peace |
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ebulGery 24 Jun 14 10:44
My theories never look so good in the morning, when I am sober To be honest I have to take that with a pinch of salt, I agree you can get some bravado when you drink to much but you were sober enough to draw the line so not to get banned. |
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While waiting for some more plausible theory here, I still prefer my theory
it is certainly not proven in any way...I am not stating facts.... we debate on here surely...drunk or sober |
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Sadly partitioning Palestine never worked, just made it worse
so I am only putting forward a suggestion |
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I see more chance of this working with Iraq myself
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Well could be people were slightly fed up of dictatorships & rose up against it, whatever you think of Israel it was the only democracy in the region at the time & would not have been behind this, I am surprised anyone drunk or sober could think that.
Iraq did not need democracy forced on it by war Democracy is fine when it works, useless when it does not We caused them great harm Looking at the latest news it appears Obama appears to think the Sunnis were being discriminated against, he is not looking to get militarily involved. Suggests it was not working |
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Arab Spring was not a bad idea. But did not have the popular support you may thought.
Still it seems to have brought beneficial changes to some societies In Syria it all went horribly wrong. |
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I will tell you why it went wrong in Syria, because Assad was so heavily armed by Russia they were never in a position to really lose total grip, I would be surprised if the aid Syria receives from Russia does not far outweigh any other middle eastern country they supply arms too.
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I agree with that pumphol
as far as I can see, Obama is saying he will only support democracy in Iraq if it is democracy..he sees discrimination against the Sunnis I think he is right to do this It is back on the government of Iraq now, their decision |
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I still think it was wrong to enforce democracy on Iraq by force
but having gone so far, I feel we obligated to try and see the job through as long as it is seen to be absolutely fair high integrity level needed here...no more lies |