ISRAEL HAVE ATTACKED SYRIA

Israel drives all this

Any gentile posts allowed on ere?

cameron wants them to fire at food bank 'scroungers.'

ebulGery     23 Jun 14 09:47 
Israel drives all this


Only YOUR  opinion of course, you seem to have forgotten to add this, you usually do but perhaps being Israel you thought it unnecessary, perhaps you think on this occasion everyone agrees with you, personally I think its a pathetic statement, only my opinion of course.

EVEN IF THEY WERE MADE TO SIT DOWN AND SORT IT ALL OUT .THERE WOULD BE LOADS OF PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES WHO WOULDNT LET IT REST.THOSE WHOSE LOST FAMILIES ON BOTH SIDES WONT LET IT REST
AND THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO DONT WANT TO STOP FIGHTING AS THEY MAKE MONEY OUT OF WARS,

ITS BAD ENOUGH LIVING IN SALFORD NETHER MIND LIVING NEAR THE WEST BANK WHERE THEVE GOT TANKS AND ROCKETS.WE DONT REALISE HOW LUCKY WE ARE

yes only my opinion of course pumphol apologies

and maybe some of us get fed up with anti Muslim posts lfc 1971

The Jew claim to Palestine seems about 2000 years out of date to me tbh
However they are there now I do not expect them to leave

My objection is when Western countries do their work for them, by taking down strong Arab countries at their request
Iraq, Libya under Gadhafi, and Assad if they could, also constantly destabilising these countries ie Egypt, Iran
...I regard this as morally wrong

I think we should stay away from this region, and let Israel/Arabs sort it out for themselves.
We gave the Jews what they wanted, we cannot take it away, but they have to live with the reality of their situation.

They will fight for what they have, I accept that, but our involvement is wrong

increasingly difficult

That may be
but what are we doing in the Middle East, since basically, it absolutely has nothing to do with us????

mULTICULTURISISUMMM is why we r in mid east

Sorry ebulGery, but we have not taken anyone down at Israel's request. That is a preposterous notion.

And we should stay away? Equally preposterous, I'm afraid. Of course the West should be involved, it is vital for our energy and security that we have influence in these places, and that if necessary we wield our power to shape events in our favour. That may offend your sensibilities, but it is nonetheless a fact.

Do you really think that Obama will sit back and let a bunch of Salafist loons take over Iraq?

jed.davison  • June 23, 2014 4:00 PM BST
Sorry ebulGery, but we have not taken anyone down at Israel's request. That is a preposterous notion.

No it is not, it is the only explanation I can see.
Who the hell really cares in this country, about what happens in the Middle East....no one

These countries do not have the weapons to threaten us, so they are no threat to us.
Terrorism - they target Israel and their main supporter America, not us.

But because we decides to actually start attacking these countries at Americas request, we are now a target.

We have a large Muslim population, we are very vulnerable. Our government have shown incredible stupidity,
guess who owns most of Media.

This country created Israel. Between WWI and WWII we allowed mass Jewish immigration to Palestine,
then after WWII we gave the Jews half of Palestine, they named it Israel.
The Palestinians and Arab neighbours regarded this as theft, so they attacked, they were defeated.

They forget one thing, the Jews are ex Europeans, they fight the European way, the best.
Traditional Arab inter tribal fighting is no good at this.
We also supply Israel with the latest arms, well America do.

Israel have to fight for survival now. They do it well, for every Israeli that is killed, they kill 100 Arabs in return.
Brutal but effective.

But we must now leave them to it, in fact the whole of the Muslim world. We are too vulnerable ourselves
because of our own Muslim population

just my opinion

This country created Israel. Between WWI and WWII we allowed mass Jewish immigration to Palestine,
then after WWII we gave the Jews half of Palestine, they named it Israel.
The Palestinians and Arab neighbours regarded this as theft, so they attacked, they were defeated.


We (the British) didn't create Israel. We controlled Palestine after WW2 until around 1947 during which time we strictly limited Jewish immigration to Palestine because we didn't want to upset the Arabs.

We then passed the problem to the UN who created Israel

Anybody with a passing interest should read A Peace To End All Peace by David Fromkin.

The creation of Israel can be traced back to our desire during WW1 to have some sort of Jewish state in place for geo-political reasons. The Holocaust obviously meant that eventually many more sought refuge their which was caused alot more problems.

I will look at that john

As for as peace is concerned, not an outstanding success

It is a tough read but is worth it. Very enlightening.

The title is a play on what was said about WW1.... 'A war to end all war'

There is a notion, that when countries attack other countries, they are bad
when they defend themselves, they are good

On this basis Israel had right on it's side when it defended itself against Arab attacks
even though the Arabs felt they had just cause

When Israel attacked Lebanon they were in the wrong
and I regret to say when we invaded Afghanistan, Iraq and attacked Libya, we of course, were in the wrong

In this country we have made ourselves more vulnerable to terrorist attack, not less
Our Intelligence has had to deal with a considerable number of terrorists plots since our invasion of Iraq

ps nick
Well what do you think Rupert Murdoch is?
I wont go into detail but I do see a bias......in America it is even worse
I even saw an episode of the Simpsons, which contained anti Saddam propoganda

I am not trying to be anti Semitic here, just trying to look at this fairly.
Outside Israel, the Jews have received appalling treatment

I can see why they would desperately want their own country, their spiritual homeland
the trouble is after 2000 years, there is a question of whether their claim has lapsed
because somebody else lived their now , the Palestinian Arabs
the real losers in all of this

But I think we have to step out ourselves, this is important
perhaps it will solve itself or whether it will end in Armageddon for the Middle East
I don't know

ps
I do not object to us supplying Israel arms, it is the fighting wars for them I object to

ebul when you miss out the just my opinion are we to take this as something different ie it's not your opinion but someone else's. I'm confused.