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RIP Gerry Conlon

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By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 21 Jun 14 21:02
can't until the mother in law passes on
By:
dewey
When: 21 Jun 14 21:10
Sounds about right Burton-Brewers - why's that then - you could take her with you surely.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 21 Jun 14 21:29
because she has other family members she would not like to leave
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Jun 14 21:44
Australia?
By:
dewey
When: 21 Jun 14 22:28
bURTON - Well - surely they can look after her ...so  what's stopping YOU?.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 21 Jun 14 22:33
my wife is very close to her mother and I would not dream of upsetting their relationship
By:
dewey
When: 21 Jun 14 22:37
Fair enough.
By:
dewey
When: 21 Jun 14 22:39
The I.R.A. has a hell of a lot to answer to.
By:
Emden
When: 21 Jun 14 22:54
said to hear of this

another 70's police fit up

RIP
By:
ebulGery
When: 21 Jun 14 22:55
I remember the Guildford pub bombing...it made people very angry
I think the need was that someone must go down for this...
I don't know whether we got the right ones myself...if Gerry Conlon was alive and innocent, I would apologise to him

two wrongs never make a right

The IRA are a terrorist group with a cause a United Ireland
The troubles were caused by gross discrimination against Catholics in N.Ireland, coming out of protests in late 60's
The IRA then came in on the Catholics side.

As a terrorist group which basically kills and maims innocents, as all terrorists do, the IRA can be condemned
Their cause is not so easy to condemn

We of course cannot just pull out of N.Ireland as long as the Loyalist want to stay with us.

These people are 'trapped in history'
By:
casemoney
When: 21 Jun 14 22:58
Gerry was not an IRA member never mind a bomber Plain
By:
casemoney
When: 21 Jun 14 22:59
The shooting of 13 innocent people in the back ,made alot of people angry blue ,and no one was ever charged with anything
By:
Emden
When: 21 Jun 14 23:03
The IRA caused a lot of problems for the hard working Irish people based in England.

They (the IRA) would plant a bomb in England, shoot back off to N.Ireland, and leave ordinary Irish familes based in England to face to flack

Very few Irish people agreed with what the IRA did.
By:
dewey
When: 21 Jun 14 23:06
Very well said Emden.........speaking from experience?
By:
casemoney
When: 21 Jun 14 23:06
BTW there are no TROOPS left that are active in Norhern Ireland ,there are some based at garrisons same as other parts of the UK ..
By:
casemoney
When: 21 Jun 14 23:08
We of course cannot just pull out of N.Ireland as long as the Loyalist want to stay with us.

we pulled out years ago mate maybe u missed this Laugh
By:
dewey
When: 21 Jun 14 23:08
casemoney - I didn't say he was - I was referring to the I.R.A. in general.
By:
casemoney
When: 21 Jun 14 23:09
and sent the poor fxckers to afghanistan Sad
By:
ebulGery
When: 21 Jun 14 23:10
The Catholics in N.Ireland did....not that they had much choice

what one are talking about case

After the Guildford pub bombing as I said people were very angry
The police had to bring in somebody..they may well have beaten it out of the 4 nearest Irishman
the evidence does not look good against Conlon now...I am sorry to see any injustice

Those two lunatics who killed Lees Rigby, that raised great anger, did not, it was at that level
justice comes under threat in such circumstances

in the Lee Rigby case we did get the right ones
By:
ebulGery
When: 21 Jun 14 23:12
we pulled out years ago mate maybe u missed this Laugh

no we have not case, the troubles have died down, troops are no longer needed
The Loyalists ain't letting us go, I can tell you for certain
NO SURRENDER
By:
casemoney
When: 21 Jun 14 23:14
Anyway RIP Gerry ..

For those who have seen the film in the name of the father ,it is more than worth a look ..
By:
casemoney
When: 21 Jun 14 23:16
who have not seen Happy
By:
ebulGery
When: 21 Jun 14 23:17
I should give it a visit case, I actually feel an injustice was done now
Public anger may have warped our justice

As far as I am concerned, N.Ireland, insolvable
By:
casemoney
When: 21 Jun 14 23:19
The troops are gone is what I was saying ,obviously the country is still under British rule ,maybe when Scotland becomes Independant they will fxck off back there Laugh
By:
MisterBadger
When: 21 Jun 14 23:22
The IRA are a terrorist group with a cause a United Ireland
The troubles were caused by gross discrimination against Catholics in N.Ireland, coming out of protests in late 60's


The IRA are a terrorist group with a cause a Re-united Ireland
The troubles were caused by gross discrimination against Catholics going back hundreds of years


The IRA then came in on the Catholics side.

You think they chose a side after weighing up the arguments?  Confused  Laugh
By:
casemoney
When: 21 Jun 14 23:23
Tend to agree blue but perhaps another couple of generations and things will change ,to have lived through the troubles over there must have been dreadful for both sides ,I have never lived through anything like that so cannot really comment ..
By:
Emden
When: 21 Jun 14 23:27
Very well said Emden.........speaking from experience?

Yes. Brum 1970's. Irish Family. Irish community in Brum really suffered at the time.

The prosecution of the 'Birmingham Six', who live locally, compounded the problem and reinforced peoples prejudices.

Happily, everything has changed, and the 'paddys' in brum are well liked with the exception of a few Neanderthal BNP types

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By:
ebulGery
When: 21 Jun 14 23:37
FFS!! they have censored my post
plenty of Irish moderators on b/f

anyway it is all on the internet
you are right case if Scotland go, can they please take N.Ireland with themLaugh
the loyalists are more Scottish than English
By:
ebulGery
When: 21 Jun 14 23:38
We would be glad to get rid of N.Ireland, I can tell you that
By:
call me a taxi
When: 21 Jun 14 23:40
Northernlad
which identity are you going to use next?
'bbc's embarrassed dad' or 'Irish_Celtic'?
By:
ebulGery
When: 21 Jun 14 23:41
I am not NorthernLadShocked
By:
call me a taxi
When: 21 Jun 14 23:43
Try to keep up ebulG,

he has already posted on here as the other two.
By:
ebulGery
When: 21 Jun 14 23:43
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By:
ebulGery
When: 21 Jun 14 23:46
The English have treated the Irish appallingly over the centuries

but when we tried to pull out the Loyalists threatened civil war...
as I assume everybody knows
By:
ebulGery
When: 21 Jun 14 23:49
Possibly in the future Ireland will re unite
but it needs to be voluntary that is the problem
By:
Emden
When: 21 Jun 14 23:58
The English have treated the Irish appallingly over the centuries

Maybe,...but....the Irish have moved on and don't look back.

There is no victim mentality. The Irish are a confident people, well liked all over the globe.

The younger English generation have no problems with the Irish, so it's a thing of the past now.
By:
Irish_Celtic
When: 22 Jun 14 00:19
The Irish and English get on great now .

The vast majority of the older type racists have long forgotten about the paddys and tend to focus on the Muslims now.

Whatever keeps them happy I guess. Now I must call me a taxi Wink
By:
MisterBadger
When: 22 Jun 14 00:25
Laugh
By:
call me a taxi
When: 22 Jun 14 00:45
Call a taxi for myself would be better English.
By:
ebulGery
When: 22 Jun 14 00:57
Yes they have done well  in Northern Ireland EmdenHappy

they have rejected violence, they are fairly peaceful,
but I doubt whether the base resentments have gone away myself
given the right circumstances they would reignite...we cannot become too complacent over this

look around the world
The Ukraine, a near civil war going on, not quite yet....
the Russians want to be part of Russia, The Ukrainianss want to stay part of Ukraine
same situation really

These situations exist everywhere..in the Middle East I think we reached the point of pure evil

A program on WWI I watched, an average collection of prehistoric skulls, one in 6 had been killed by other human beings..skull smashed in
that is what we are

Forget all this PC rubbish...we must remain vigilant of what we really are..if we want peace
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