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RIP Gerry Conlon
RIP Gerry Conlon
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Our fantasies give us away...at one time nearly all of us have fantasized about killing another human being
the neighbour who wakes us up with loud music in the early hours, even a car pulling out in front of you on the road, any number of other reasons If we had no law and given the right circumstances, there is a very high probability we would do this in real life We really need to see ourselves as we really are, if we are to prevent an inevitable Armageddon We are a very violent species, we must be vigilant just my own opinion |
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There is a consensus that we are advancing as a species. We are growing more civilized and peaceful.
Well there is some merit in this, but the thing is, what has happened, is our science has made our lives more comfortable, so we have a lot more to lose, that has reduced some of our violence. The more primitive societies remain quite violent. But I don't think it changes us human beings does it. WWII killed 55 million people, that does not speak of peace does it? That is a lot of people to kill. Only our nuclear weapons have prevented us topping this figure, because we have had the sanity to realise these weapons cannot be used. But will this hold, sadly I doubt it. We now think if we hand power to women we will have peace. I doubt that as well, because men could not live in a women's world...the psychological differences between men and women are too great. Men would eventually rebel. I am also afraid we will grow tired of our comfortable lifestyle, we will get bored, we will return to war. So what we have here, is a very violent species, who are building ever more efficient weapons to kill each other with. tbh it does not look too good to me. |
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thanks for that gery, I feel so much better now
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Anyway, just so we don't get too sidetracked:
RIP Gerry Conlon victim of corrupt British policemen and corrupt British establishment & judiciary |
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Dont worry gery will make a point shortly and state his message in his usual manor ,it may take a few posts but he will do it .
wont you gery ? |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0WLCJ26Emc
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why was colon family chosen for the crime(stitch up)?
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breadnbutter • June 22, 2014 3:51 AM BST
Dont worry gery will make a point shortly and state his message in his usual manor ,it may take a few posts but he will do it . wont you gery ? |
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I'm nominating 01:49 post as cheeriest of the year
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xmoneyxthey say alcohol is a depressant, seems to prove it it works from the premise we are all inherently bad others think we are all inherently good |
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Most people think some of us are good and some of us are a bad
although we often disagree which is which |
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Iraq is now hell on earth
well done tony I was on the anti-Iraq war march glasgow,100,000 tony thought he would be welcomed,labour supporters needed special security,and cancelled his open air speech |
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well done xmoneyx
 whatever way you at look at human nature Tony Blair comes out bad |
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Once the troubles started in N.Ireland they were very hard to stop but the backdrop to those 30 years of violence were 50 years of sectarianism and discrimination by the unionist majority.
You have to understand why things started and then you have to understand how hard things were to stop once people from all sides were being killed. The real problem was not the british army who first came to protect catholic areas from attack. Take away the British army and the real problems were still going to have to be dealt with....how catholics and protestants would live together in an equal and fair society which respected each others differences and cultures. The ira could and should have done more to stop Gerry Conlon and the others spending so many years in jail for something they were completely innocent of. |
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xmoneyx 22 Jun 14 12:07
Iraq is now hell on earth well done tony I was on the anti-Iraq war march glasgow,100,000 tony thought he would be welcomed,labour supporters needed special security,and cancelled his open air speechLaugh u should've put the collective heed(sic)on him & got some of the local razor gangs finish him & his entourage off lol |
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Tony Blair did not make the decision.
He was just a puppet figure-head. |
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You have a point paddletoe
But you see the IRA have a cause, a United Ireland for this to happen they want N.Ireland to fail, so that we will pull out and it will return to the Irish Republic. To this end they launched a campaign of chaos and terror in N.Ireland They were eventually defeated. Sensibly enough they have accepted this. But their cause has not gone away has it? The reasons for their defeat is that the discrimination against Catholics was removed. People got fed up living in a society of violence, with endless tit for tat murders between the IRA and Loyalist paramilitaries. The co operation of the Irish Republic, they see the IRA as a loose cannon who could bring down their own government. They started to share information, such as who they were, how they were getting in and out of N.Ireland, etc... Life became uncomfortable for the IRA, no hiding place. The cause remains, the basic problem has not been solved. Who does N.Ireland belong to the Eire or the United Kingdom? Thankfully violence has died down. |
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Who does N.Ireland belong to the Eire or the United Kingdom?
Are you for real? look at the map ffs - does cornwall belong to the uk or france? |
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The Six Counties have never been part of the Republic of Ireland. They were nominally part of the Irish Free State for two days.
Eire go brach. Kernow bys vykken. |
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I am not blindly on the side of the IRA here. The only evidence to convict them was from `Oppressed` confessions and British intelligence and the IRA stood by and watched these people denied their freedom and suffer physical and psychological damage for a crime they did not do.
They were scapegoats. |
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I have no interest in this, but have to ask, did he have a criminal record before he was fitted up?
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He had a record for petty crime ( shoplifting ) but was never a member of any terrorist organisation including the IRA. He was made a scapegoat and treated appallingly in jail and he had never even set foot in Guildford in his life let alone plant bombs.
The IRA and the surrey police are the real scum in all of this sorry tale |
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And then his father was wrongly imprisoned and passed died in prison 5 years into his sentence.
British Airways then refused to fly the coffin back to Ireland because he was a (wrongly accused) terrorist. All the dignity was taken away for his father. At least Gerry will receive dignity at the end. |
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MisterBadger • June 22, 2014 5:10 PM BST
Who does N.Ireland belong to the Eire or the United Kingdom? Are you for real? look at the map ffs - does cornwall belong to the uk or france? who does Gibralter belong to who does The Falkland belong to who does The Channel Islands belong to N.Ireland was set up as part of the United Kingdom The Loyalists still think it is I know the map says Ireland |
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Do not tell me Mister Badger
you tell the Loyalists who it belongs to gl |
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I was only answering your question gery
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fair enough MisterBadger
Until 1922 Ireland was part of the United Kingdom N.Ireland remains I think Ireland should be united one day, but N.Ireland has to want it, the majority that is the problem Irish Catholics, both sides of the border, believe in a United Ireland in their hearts but the Loyalists wont leave us NO SURRENDER |
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The heart of this problem is
Who does N.Ireland belong to Eire or the United Kingdom? that is the reality we all have our different opinions |