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21 Jun 14
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end up playing Roulette or Blackjack , even Craps for the High Rollers !
Do they know something we don't know about margins / percentages ?
or is it just a case of being able to bet in huge amounts ?
Do they know something we don't know about margins / percentages ?
or is it just a case of being able to bet in huge amounts ?
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martingale with huge bank?
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I think it's just a case of having more money than sense,
we moan at working level, they must be raking fortunes at that level. I've blown 3500 quid in the last 10 days, these figures just aint working out to a days money i make working, gamecare aint doing enough, I told c0ral I want my account closed! you cant get clearer than that can you!? so they have temporarily suspended it, making it easy for me to re open, its a joke why arnt they investigated how corrupt these high street firms are? |
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I doubt that all big gamblers play stuff like that but certainly many of them do. There is no edge at all however you play them (except card counting for blackjack), so they must be doing it for entertainment.
I think it might be something to do with being able to switch off from making difficult decisions, like how if you've been playing poker for ages it's nice to just stick a bet on a football match, crack open a beer and enjoy. |
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yep , they definitely know what they're upto Pug
and can withstand huge losses , but then their Monster wins are even sweeter  Never seem to bet on any kind of sport at all though , do they just not trust anybody or anything with more than 2 legs  |
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I'm not so sure they just do it for fun Patra , they're Greedy & out to win Big , their bankrolls are obv into the millions so a few hundred k win might seem big but it isn't to them personally
Totally agree with you about switching off though , but it seems much more systematic to me , where a daft own goal etc won't interfere with their game |
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it's so hard to shake off, if you lose you want more, if you win you think you've cracked
it & come back for more. try to put a normal bet on & I was restricted to £30 the other week, but its ok to have a hand of black jack @ a 100 a spin |
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mc your a pro gambler
how long do you reckon a part time punter could last with 365? say if you were taking £100 off them a month plus your winnings from betfair which would be a lot more |
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I am up over 40k with 365 since I opened my account with them about a year ago. They even give me a bonus every week. Best online bookie by a mile and I have accounts closed with them all.
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Paddle if your genuine thats impressive
if your winning that much then theres no point throwing in some mug losing bets a lot of folk say they get restricted once they are earning decent coin you must have found a way around that? |
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I don't belive that you would of been restricted by now making your account next to useless
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To be honest no idea how I have kept my account open. Cant say its been by design. Can only guess is because of the amount of bets I have placed which would be close to half a million. They had even reason to look into my account last month when I withdrew quite a large amount and I needed to give them personal information.
They bet in running on everything so I think they can handle a few losing accounts more than other bookies. |
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Hi Paddletoe
Good to hear you're doing well , is this all through arbing / trading ? You don't play the Casino games also do you ? That's a fair bit for one site , but some bookies are willing to gamble with you in a hope to get their money back , i think it depends very much what your long term statement looks like , and whether they think they can beat you long term or not , personally i've had accounts with the big books open for years on end , but i don't win /trade as big as you do with them |
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i am an avid fan of them best bookie by a mile in terms of markets and streaming
i have noticed a lot of arbs between them and betfair but wouldnt risk arbing as want to keep them on side |
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Yep as you say , 40k to them isn't a big deal at all tbh
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"Who ate all the Pies"
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I don't play casino games! I bet all in play on tennis games, snooker frames, over runs in cricket and handicaps in rugby mostly.
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I don't bet in huge ammounts. Typically as much as I think I can get on without any bets needed to be refered to a trader. £500 on an even money shot is as high as I go. Most bets are smaller.
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i find the 356 compilers make the ricks pre match but in play they are good
best of luck to you pt u are doing well |
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On the opposite side of the coin I have had accounts with different bookmakers closed within a week eventhough I have been down money.
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could you make that kind of coin on bf or does having a bookie acc be a must?
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Actually think 365 have a good business model as their profits would seem to show. Live streaming 24/7 on all sports. I think theu accept they might make some mistakes but they make up for those mistakes in the volume of bets they take. Where else can a premiership footballer chase his money at 3 in the morning and watch anything from basketball to tennis live. They offer lots of ways 24 hours a day to lose money. Probably why they accept a few losing accounts as inevitable. Expect my account will get knocked back by them when I make my next withdrawal.
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what I have been doing for the past 18 months has a limited life span as bookmakers generally don't like customers who like money. They prefer customers who don't like money.
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pt
2 last questions. If u dont want to answer just say 1. the markets you play are 50/50? 2. b356 dont mind someone chasing losses to secure profit? |
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it's virtually impossible on here Pug as Bots control the markets now
that's the diff between trading & gambling , paddletoe's a smart trader but he isn't truly gambling you say they even give you Bonuses too , that's unusual , gets more like poker all the time , it's the bonuses that keep me playing poker now not the game profits ! |
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Afraid I cant share too much information as I bet on markets which will only withstand a certain amount of money. Lots of similar bets on a minor market would get an account instantly flagged up. Which is why most bookmakers will have set max stake limits for different markets especially the sub markets I bet on.
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The bonus is only a loyalty bonus of a tenner a week.
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gotta go guys but in answer to your question pugpunter yes nearly all my bets are two outcome markets. Let you work out the rest....
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mc i dont really understand bots and how they work
i dont believe in trading. I just bet at odds i feel are value and with a decent staking plan |
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ah ok i see
 it's the market Max bets that always baffle me , when costa rica lost their first match they were 2.5 here , 3's at certain bookies ... £122.50 Max bet i was also going to put a 23/1 10 fold acca on ... Max Bet £20,000  |
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tc mate !
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say no more pt
best of luck and hope to chat again keep up the good work  |
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Just shows they will withstand a Bet ... but not a viable Trade
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still up but yes moonbeam if your betting on a world cup match you should not have any trouble getting as much as you want on the main result. A sub market but not so much in the world cup but lets say in a minor event which can be manipulated or a market where you may know more than a trader will have a limited max bet.
By the way, not sure if you can help moonbeam ( maybe you too pugpunter ) but do you know anything about how to conceal your computer isp from a third party....such as an online bookmaker. Just someone I know was curious to find out. |
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yes its nice to hear
my plan is to work pt in a "normal job" and then the rest on here would be ideal |
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yes you certainly can
you can still log in from your comp but there are various programmes that hide your ip having a look just now |
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another way round is accessing the the betting site via a 3gp signal (mobile fone)
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By the way lads there is a very interesting bookmaker related post on the irish forum (not sure if its still on the front page) about a certain well known irish bookmaker who took around a million I think from an online punter who had been stealing the money from his job as a post office manager. How the post office did not know such an amount could be missing is another matter. But it shows how differently bookmakers treat different customers. They wined and dined this losing customer and got him tickets for all sorts of big sporting events. Legal case about it at the minute. Shoocking case which has not received much publicity.
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you need a Proxy server paddletoe , which will act as your isp under a diff one
there's lots of freeware about now but if you're serious about it i'd pay for a decent proxy |
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I had over 400 accounts over the last 18 months,the 365 usually last 2 weeks...
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