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Ron-Russian
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has it been discussed on the this forum?

i'm disgusted by it, it seems its more a case
of who ain't f***ing using it
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Report kenny mann • May 10, 2014 6:44 PM BST
It has, see lower down

Millions are eating halal food without knowing it:
Report call me a taxi • May 10, 2014 6:44 PM BST
I'm one of those who doesn't care how his dinner is killed.

Large steak sir?

Yes please.

How would you like it?

Pull the horns out and clean the arse.
Report kenny mann • May 10, 2014 6:45 PM BST
I've read that before. Wink
Report kenny mann • May 10, 2014 6:53 PM BST
Millions are eating halal food without knowing it:

Thread title
Report Ron-Russian • May 10, 2014 6:54 PM BST
apparently this stunning the animal (even if that's true) before slitting it's throat doesn't
go along with muslim ways & they won't eat it anyway, so who's the food aimed at?
Report kenny mann • May 10, 2014 6:55 PM BST
dunno but I lost my rag the other night. lol
Report kenny mann • May 10, 2014 6:56 PM BST
animals and Asian combined. A deadly combination for me.
Report Ron-Russian • May 10, 2014 6:57 PM BST
ffs, next they'll be saying indian restaurants are using it to!

i'll have a look at the threat thanks
Report kenny mann • May 10, 2014 6:57 PM BST
combined is superfluous.
Report kenny mann • May 10, 2014 6:58 PM BST
ok Happy
Report mange • May 10, 2014 7:24 PM BST
If they were eating our meat.......................

              Therl be compensation Grin
Report Ibrahima Sonko • May 10, 2014 7:36 PM BST
We dont generally care about how are meat is killed.

But then the supermarkets hiding it so they can make more profits is questionable, their is also the question of a religious belief being imposed on people that dont  know about it.

Imagine the uproar if it was the other away around, riots i tell ya !!
Report Ron-Russian • May 10, 2014 7:46 PM BST
yes imagine if it was the other way round, I agree they'd be
fuming.

but I do care about how our meats killed, it's filth to watch one
of their halal killings,
I already for a while will only eat prawn dishes in indian's
Report mange • May 10, 2014 7:50 PM BST
Did U you see the big lake where they breed em & the geezers loo vents into it ?
Report Ron-Russian • May 10, 2014 8:07 PM BST
ban fox hunting because it cruel! but surely the killing of a fox
in a fox hunt isn't much different to the killing of an animal
in halal style on cruelty levels?
Report Ron-Russian • May 10, 2014 8:17 PM BST
bring back fox hunting then I say! nah they won't do that because its a britsh tradition,

how come the animals rights do gooder waste of space's ain't on to
this sort issue?
Report Ibrahima Sonko • May 10, 2014 8:24 PM BST
Am i the only one that doesnt believe that 90% halal meat is stunned before the ritual ?

Considering they believe in a different process they seem very easy going about the fact that the animal is stunned before slaughter.
Report Burton-Brewers • May 10, 2014 8:25 PM BST
they gas the prawns Ron that's just as cruel
Report Ron-Russian • May 10, 2014 8:27 PM BST
no I don't either.

I read from a muslim earlier they wont eat it if its stunned.

so what is it just a bluff to pull the wool over our mugs faces
Report Ron-Russian • May 10, 2014 8:30 PM BST
I heard they torcher the prawns first by stretching them, I don't
know if that's true tho tbh.
Report kenny mann • May 10, 2014 8:37 PM BST
far too much animal cruelty in this world. a lot of people are sick.
Report mange • May 10, 2014 8:54 PM BST
They inject the prawns ............FACT!
Report ebulGery • May 10, 2014 9:05 PM BST
agree KennySad
Report Barry Conway • May 10, 2014 9:05 PM BST
It's really confusing being a Muslim. I was looking for some advice on whether Prawns are Halal or not. I believe they are not Kosher. I cam accross the following...

http://www.thesunniway.com/articles/item/107-are-prawns-halal

It is in Makhzan as follows: “It is known as Roobiyaan and Irbiyaan. It is called Roobiyaan Fish and Machli and Mek Machli and in Hindi it is called jhinga.”

It is in Tuhfatul Mo’mineen as follows, “In Farsi, Roobiyaan is the name of a Fish.”

It is in Tazkira-e-Dawood as follows: “Roobiyaan is a type of fish which is found a lot in the seas of Iraq and Qaam. It is like a reddish crab with lots of legs, but it has more flesh on it.”

It is in Hayaatul Haywaan Kubra as follows: Roobiyaan is slightly red and is a very small fish.

Now after examining all this, then according to Merajud Diraaya it should be Halaal since in the quotation of Merajud Diraaya it is clear that all species of fish are Halaal: “And Taafi is not a fixed species, but it is a description which every species is linked towards.”

It is clearly stated as follows in the Meraj (book as mentioned above), “Such a small fish in which the stomach can not be cut open and it is fried (or cooked) without removing the stomach, then with the exception of Imam Shafi’i it is Halaal according to all the A’ima. It is in Raddul Muhtar that it has been mentioned in Merajud Diraaya. If a fish is found in the stomach of a fish then it can be consumed, but according to Imam Shafi’i (radi Allahu anhu) it will not be eaten as it is regarded in the ruling of bird droppings and according to him, the droppings of the bird is regarded as napaak (impurity).”

We say that it is only regarded as droppings if it has changed its originality. As for those fish which are so small that their stomachs can not be cut open, then according to the Shafi’i Imams, it is not Halaal to consume, since they base this on the (same) ruling that (apply to) the droppings of the bird as being an impurity and according to the remainder of the Ulama, to consume such fish is halaal.
Report ebulGery • May 10, 2014 9:07 PM BST
I would not want to consume bird droppings  tbh

I am not a MuslimShocked
Report ebulGery • May 10, 2014 9:09 PM BST
Why all the rules in the first place??????
Report Barry Conway • May 10, 2014 9:11 PM BST
http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/234978424-is-it-haram-to-use-lynx-or-aftershave/

They're arguing on this forum if it's ok to use Lynx deoderant! I say no way! Stone the infidels especially the ones who make them **** adverts.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • May 10, 2014 9:17 PM BST
THEY dont even know the rules.
Report Barry Conway • May 10, 2014 9:18 PM BST
http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235021370-i-drank-alcohol-by-mistake/

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/234990554-the-logic-behing-cutting-nails-in-order/

LaughLaughLaugh
Report ebulGery • May 10, 2014 9:29 PM BST
It is definitely a full time job being a Muslim
Report kenny mann • May 10, 2014 9:31 PM BST
Thanks ebulGery for your earlier agreement. Happy
Report Ibrahima Sonko • May 10, 2014 9:41 PM BST
If only they had spent more time developing their homelands.
Report ebulGery • May 10, 2014 9:54 PM BST
There may have been some very good reasons for these rules at some time in our past????

But that has been forgotten...so to a non Muslim it seems pointless ritual

it seems hard to me that entry to Muslim heaven depends on what someone has eaten and how the animal was killed

if it was me on duty at their version of the pearly gates...as long as someone was not a cannibalShocked, they could come in

although I would also bar anyone who had shown excessive cruelty to animals
Report ebulGery • May 10, 2014 9:58 PM BST
Women ritualise their food a bit a bit in our society today...although health reasons are always quoted

They feel it gives them power, was this the original reason for all these Muslim rules????

with all our health rules nowadays, I wonder why they don't just advise us to eat grass all day long
Report Ron-Russian • May 10, 2014 10:00 PM BST
how far can we go before we the f**king people that should be here say
enough is enough?
it's like there trying to push you, brain wash you into this **** bit by bit as if it's part of this countries background.

I refuse to ever eat anything killed in that barbaric way again.

so to play safe im going to be looking at a lot more vegetarian dishes
from now on
Report ebulGery • May 10, 2014 10:01 PM BST
LaughLaugh Ron
Report Ron-Russian • May 10, 2014 10:01 PM BST
Laugh
Report ebulGery • May 10, 2014 10:04 PM BST
you had better hope they do not come up with the idea of halal and non halal carrots for instance Ron

you would be stuffedWink
Report ebulGery • May 10, 2014 10:14 PM BST
I don't eat lobster myself, because of the way they have to be killed

luckily I have never tasted it, so I am not missing anything

but in general I am not happy with the way we treat our food animals, I subscribe now and again to compassion in world farming

but I still eat meat, often just the cheapestBlush

I am a failed animal lover
Report ebulGery • May 10, 2014 10:16 PM BST
labelling seems the obvious answer to this halal and non halal problem
Report Ron-Russian • May 10, 2014 10:17 PM BST
my nap was crokers champ but in the
end thought im not gonna bother to start betting tonight, Cry
Report ebulGery • May 10, 2014 10:18 PM BST
very unlucky RonCry

you seem to be damned either waySad
Report ebulGery • May 10, 2014 10:31 PM BST
going by my own rules, the only people I would bar from heaven, based on their eating habits

would be zombies

although they are already dead, so would a dead zombie go there anywhere

a puzzler?????
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