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Missing Plane......
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1) Aviate
2) Navigate, 3) Communicate by the time they got to communicate, all was lost.... |
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..sounds the likeliest then.....
..but.....if there is fire...wouldn't it rule out the plane running on autopilot for hours....surely the fire would bring the plane down far sooner than running out of fuel.... ..which means it wouldn't have been flying for hours after contact was lost....which also means the wreckage should be nearer rather than farther. |
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Well if its a cockpit fire, the engines would be ok? Would the plane just stay on autopilot and fly until the fuel ran out?
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Cockpit fire/fire on board theory was looked at yesterday.
The response was: "This theory has been disputed. If the course was changed during a major emergency, one might expect it to be done using manual control. But the left turn was the result of someone in the cockpit typing "seven or eight keystrokes into a computer on a knee-high pedestal between the captain and the first officer, according to officials", the New York Times reported. The paper says this "has reinforced the belief of investigators - first voiced by Malaysian officials - that the plane was deliberately diverted and that foul play was involved." |
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Also we know the plane flew over the Malaysian peninsula almost exactly between the two nearest major airports (Langkawi and Penang). There was also another airport with 747 capability on the east coast that a 777 could have landed at (or been aimed at) in an emergency. So why did the plane change course once more from it's initial heading over Malaysia to the 45 degree course now being searched north and south?
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...all very strange and very confusing....and intriguing....
...shame they don't have video camera in the cockpit that sends a live feed back. |
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One of two theories for me:
1 - he or someone else hijacked the flight, piggybacked the radar of the Singapore flight to avoid detection and the plane is now in the hands of the Taliban or Uighur Muslims in China. 2 - he flew south in a suicide flight and ran out of fuel somewhere in the Indian ocean. |
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Fire caused possibly by front tyre.
Aviate, Navigate, Communicate Pilot 'pulls busses' in line with procedure which turns off all non essential electrical circuits. including all tracking/radar systems. Pilot turns left to Navigate to best airport to land at. Fire takes hold, Crash. Doesnt co-pilot have chat with air traffic control after the first tracking equipment is turned off  |
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yes...it would seem so....
The ACARS - a service that allows computers aboard the plane to "talk" to computers on the ground - was silenced some time after 01:07 as the plane crossed Malaysia's east coast. At about 01:19 the co-pilot was heard to say: "All right, good night". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26503141 |
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If it crashed at sea we'd find out eventually when the seats cushions are found washed up on shore, they can't sink
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The timing of the last confirmed communication with a satellite was 08:11 (00:11 GMT), meaning that the Boeing continued flying for nearly seven hours after contact with air traffic control was lost.
....baffling! |
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is it sure that these pings could not have come from a ditched plane or one on the sea already?
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The ACARS - a service that allows computers aboard the plane to "talk" to computers on the ground - was silenced some time after 01:07 as the plane crossed Malaysia's east coast.
At about 01:19 the co-pilot was heard to say: "All right, good night". I think the next ACARS was due at 1:37 so still some time for **** to hit fan and turn off ACARS after 1:19 maybe |
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yes...maybe Brendan......
..the info that comes out doesn't seem to be that precise.......whether that is incompetence or by design.... ...I cant believe with so much technology around that one of the superpowers hasn't got more info than is being given out. ..no wonder the relatives are starting to lose it...... |
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...and I think im right in saying that if it ditched into the sea the black boxes start to ping as soon as they hit the water.....and these signals can be detected by the newer search vessels hundreds of miles away!!!
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Yes its really patchy considering it was 10 days ago. These "2 corridors" are bit strange its one arc, but they remove the center part around the place it actually went missing
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...yes...so they must be assuming....or actually know.....that the last satellite communication was genuine....and it did indeed fly all that time after contact was lost!!!!
..whether it was flying on auto or by someone...well...who knows. |
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...and Boeing have gone silent I think.....
..wasn't there a stage where they said the engines were updating info to the ground???? not sure. |
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yes it was Rolls Royce at some point to
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What is the reference to the plane ascending to a height of 45,000 feet before returning to a more suitable altitude - im sure ive heard this mentioned in some report somewhere.
If this is true and it was briefly taken to that height then that is very ominus for the passengers as it could have been an effort to get them to pass out quickly after the plane was decompressed. |
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ground radar picked up a change in altitude jimmy, but these readings alone can often be wrong, there was one a few years ago where they accused the pilots of altering altitude but when they checked the flight recorders they found it was dodgy data and nothing to do with a subsequent crash
but if it is a true reading then it could be an attempt to further reduce oxygen, the mask oxygen would last between 10-15 mins, he could have flicked on passenger seatbelts, depressurised the cabin and kept them high until they were all dead, no one other than the 2nd pilot would have made an attempt to prevent this and chances are he was the first to be taken out, all that remains is which pilot did what in that scenario? |
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Starting to think that this is a plot and things are at a tender stage ,if you go back over how and when and by whom things have been released its starting to look like the plane may well be some where completely mad like the stans or in china itself..
the passengers would most likely be bargaining chips with the £150m 777 and cargo of little interest ,political prisoners in China/Afghan a poss target imo ? Pilots/crew may have been coerced by kidnapped family ...but thats just a guess ,pilots social media use could have got him into all sorts of shoite Reports a chinese passenger has had sim training ,looks like the whole of the asian civ/mil radar network shuts down for the w/end  |
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point i am making is the last "ping" could have come from anywhere along the arc, but they remove the center bit around where it actually went missing and you end up with "2 corridors".
It could have sent its last ping from a few miles from where it went missing, but seems to be assumption that it must have been "going somewhere" ie not ditched in the sea or going around and around in tight circle for 7 hours. |
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I think the centre bit doesn't match the approximate distance from the satellite though. It's too far away.
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 Its just a circle, why not just connect the 2 red "arms" why call them 2 corridors? |
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Because the satellite is over the earth and not geocentric to the point of last contact. You have to think of it as a 3d model, where there is a distance from the satellite to the potential flight path.
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you what?
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The pilot is holding de fan..
http://indianexpress.com/photos/picture-gallery-others/dalai-lama-in-shimla/#dalailama-4 |
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*eastern most parts.
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i'm none the wiser either brendan .
 must have skipped too many lessons for my own good |
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There's a fantastic explanation of the radar arc here
http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2014/03/16/nr-myers-search-zeroing-southern-indian-ocean.cnn&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_topstories+%28RSS%3A+Top+Stories%29&video_referrer= |
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that cnn seems to think no center red arc due to that area being discounted because it is covered by radar. Suppose might be true.
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 This one seems to have some reason for it. |
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https://www.amsa.gov.au/media/index.asp |
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Was the name Chris Jefferies ,on the passenger list ?
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they can not tell if it went north or south even after analysis
. They are guessing its south as northern route is populated / radar and would have expected some reaction from countries it flew over. 2 yellow lines are 2 possible speeds of the plane. A "few weeks" to search area.  Guess the northern corridor one is covered by the Chinese |
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