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Missing Plane......
Missing Plane......
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the pilot attended the the trial of the main opposition leader who was jailed for five years hours before the flight took off ,there is reports from upto 9 people a plane was low flying the Malaysian east coast hours after the flight took off .The Malay have been very slow and cagey with a lot of info .
whole thing stinks of a cover up . |
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on the other side, if it's a one man nut job then there are going to be some major changes to the way aircraft are tracked in the coming months after this farce, amazing that they can't locate them after all of this time
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I just cant have the landed somewhere theory. Where are all the passengers if so? Its crashed somewhere in the ocean. More is known than is being let on by the Malaysians...........also, i would think the americans have a good idea whats gone down but cant say anything for fear of showing their hands with their technology.
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Yeah seems like we are a day or two behind what is really known. Surely cannot have landed somewhere and 248 passengers killed ? held hostage ? Must be the most precious cargo ever on the plane ....or people... But why change course and fly for 7 hours over the indian ocean if it was a suicide - breakdown scenario? Weird.
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The plane was not hijacked to crash into the petronas towers.
What would be the point of crashing the plane into these towers at around 1am Saturday morning? Imagine if 9/11 happened at that time in New York. |
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Fred has been hijacked imo
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Unconfirmed reports claim the plane was carrying litho-ion batteries but some stories about the final load position cargo manifest being incomplete/missing .
story about the cargo x-ray machine being inop ,although a big package of batteries will be dense and the x-ray machine has maybe not got a full picture of the load if it was on pallets when x-rayed . Surprised the press have not got onto the cargo angle and established where it came from and confirmed ....a valuable cargo would change everything |
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passengers are dead if you believe the decompression theory, so it supports either the nut job angle, the stolen cargo angle or the plane will be used at a later date as a flying bomb scenario
the fact that the 2nd officer is quite new on 777s is interesting, he was on shorter routes previously, poss has been waiting his chance to fly long distance if he's a supporter of some cause or other |
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co pilot last to talk
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how would the pilots or conspirators go about keeping 243 passengers quiet?? seems sabotage is the answer here but surely there would have been some kind of contact from a passenger to a family member via mobile
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how would the pilots or conspirators go about keeping 243 passengers quiet?
cabin decompression, passenger oxygen could poss be disabled but even if not it would only last a 10-12 minutes, if the rogue pilot had disabled his oppo, then everyone in the cabin would just do as he told them, seat belts on, masks on , but would die inside 15 mins at that altitude, he would be the only person alive from then on |
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http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/post/79838944823/did-malaysian-airlines-370-disappear-using-sia68
another intersting angle |
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Seems some of the papers are now producing stories from nothing, and no real facts. So many possible angles.
"It is unclear why investigators appear so certain that the two communications systems were disabled deliberately, rather than malfunctioning. Attention has focused on the crew – particularly the pilots – because of the difficulty of shutting off the systems and because of the way the plane navigated subsequently. It is also unclear at what point others on board became aware of the plane's diversion." |
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i'm going for co pilot, in the billiard room, with the 777 flying bomb
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am not sure ,co p is the single young gun ,smokes and likes a burd ....too much to live for and dont sound like no fundamentalist (although they are always hypocrites imo )
even the old dude sounds like captain sensible although the simulator is a bit nutty ,although he seemed happy to tell the world ,bit like those arcades in motorway service stations with the formula 1 driving video games ...who the fook plays them  will go for the aircraft mechanic and a few of the late bookings which were accommodated by the no shows . although the lone wolf can never be eliminated ....  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feoiwE05vpA |
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Still think this plane is grounded in Tibet somewhere, A protest gone horribly wrong.
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speaking of lone wolfves, have any Bristolian landlords been spotted on the passeneger lists?
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pilot hijack gone wrong,ment to land some obscure airport,miss judged navigation out to sea
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how in 2014 can they not track a $200 million plane?
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good point roger.............this was a suicide/murder mission by someone on board the plane..............probably one of teh pilots.............wreckage and bodies will soon turn up.
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never underestimate human behaviour............who knows what was going on in one of the pilots lives and heads............what i dont like are the reports by media that the pilot was a fanatical political supporter.............anyone who knows anything about malay polictics will tell u that the politician he supported is a democrat who was being targted by the corrupt system that exists in malaysia............supporting this guy was a very honourable position to take. a bit like supporting ghandi or mandela.
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I would suspect if pilots had some hidden agenda, e.g. hijacked the plane for political or religious causes then the police would have figured this by now. Surely? They will have left some incriminating evidence behind them in my opinion. You can't be crazy enough to hijack a plane and not leave traces of your plan somewhere along the way.
So I'm guessing if there is pilot involvement then it's more a personal issue than anything else. Also a theory less explored but would seem possible is could potential hijackers have got on the plane illegally, e.g. hid undetected in some part of the plane until it was in the air. As a result they would not be on the passenger list. Alternatively, did the real pilots board the plane? Maybe they were kidnapped and two terrorists acted as their double? What would the protocol be for checking the pilots identities? |
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brain dead jockey is quite correct regarding the pilots support of Anwar..a progressive sort.
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On Friday the Malaysians said they knew the ACARs system was shut down on purpose. Not due to a sudden fault.
Today they say they dont know what time it as shut down. If they dont know what time it was shut down, how do they know how it was shut down? I think its not hijacking or suicide. This happened, but inflight: An Egyptair Boeing 777-200, registration SU-GBP performing flight MS-667 from Cairo (Egypt) to Jeddah (Saudi Arabia) with 291 passengers, was preparing for departure at gate F7 with the passengers already boarded when a fire erupted in the cockpit causing smoke to also enter the cabin. The crew initiated an emergency evacuation. 5 occupants received minor injuries in the evacuations. Emergency services responded and put the fire out. 2 fire fighters were taken to a hospital for smoke inhalation. The aircraft received substantial damage, the fire burned through the right hand side of the cockpit leaving a hole of about the size of the first officer's side window in the fuselage just below that window. http://www.avherald.com/h?article=44078aa7&opt=0 The pilots turned the plane left, towards land, but were overcome by the smoke/fire. |
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An outsidetheory could be similar to what is rumoured to have happened to an Egyptian plane way back from USA. It was carrying airforce personnel who had training on new US airfcraft to attack the Brotherhood fighters a couple of decades ago. The pilot had been told if it landed his family were being held hostage and they would all be killed so he killed himself and all the occupants.
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i honestly believe the malay authorities have no idea what happened............the way this info has come out shows they have no idea.
all we really know is that a plane is missing. nothing else. |
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acars was turned off but exact time unknown, reason being it only transmits every half hour, last transmission 1.07am, didn't make next transmission, so they are unable to know the sequence of events in relation to radio transmission, climb recorded on radar, transponder off , could have been anytime in that half hour after 1.07
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Has to be in the ocean
How can you land this and just park it up somewhere without no one noticing for a week |
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If as reported the plane flew on for 6 hours after its last contact then that would surely rule out everything except one of the pilots being the sole person alive on the plane for the last period of time. If the rest of the crew and passengers had still been alive during that 6 hour period it would be implausible they would not have known something was wrong and would have attempted to do something. This would rule out a hi jacking.
If the pilot was on a suicide mission there are many reasons why he did not ditch the plane earlier. I think he decompressed the air and everyone died and he either got cold feet about dying himself and flew the plane until it ran out of fuel. Or maybe he was relaxed about the whole thing and had a few final drinks from the mini bar while flying into the sunset on a long joy ride to hell. You don't need to have answers to all the questions. Once the head goes in a person everything goes. |
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10 theories from the BBC site....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26609687 interesting...... also interesting that not much mention of the 20 Freescale Semiconductor employees on board who are specialists in electronic warfare ...which includes cloaking aircraft from radar!!!!!!!!! |
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cloaking aircraft from radar has been around for decades? What the hell is a stealth figther?
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"The Chinese are now searching their own land" said BBC news
It's in Tibet nap. |
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Interesting that they only talk about the "final" ping ... I would be interested to know the location of the "interim" pings in the time period between when plane disappeared from radar and the recording of the "final" ping
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theories are getting wackier by the day...
this simple theory seems to be getting overlooked, perhaps not exciting enough.. https://plus.google.com/106271056358366282907/posts/GoeVjHJaGBz in brief Fire caused possibly by front tyre. Aviate, Navigate, Communicate Pilot 'pulls busses' in line with procedure which turns off all non essential electrical circuits. including all tracking/radar systems. Pilot turns left to Navigate to best airport to land at. Fire takes hold, Crash. |
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Or fire cause same as http://www.avherald.com/h?article=44078aa7&opt=0
And decompression occurs. Autopilot flies plane till fuel runs out. |
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...then why no distress call.......
...would fire/decompression happen so quickly that they couldn't have used their oxygen masks and communicated their plight....even once!! |
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Well in the example on the 777 I gave the cause was Electrical fault or short circuit resulted in electrical heating of flexible hoses in the flight crew oxygen system.
So I guess that rules out them using their oxygen in the cockpit. Electrical faults can knock out the comminications too. |
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About 30 minutes after the oxygen masks were checked the first officer heard a pop followed by a hissing sound from the right hand side of his seat, fire and smoke came out of the right hand console underneath the #3 cockpit window to the right of the first officer. The captain ordered the first officer to leave the cockpit immediately and notify cabin crew and emergency of the cockpit fire. The captain discharged the fire extinguisher available in the cockpit, however did not manage to put the fire out. The first officer in the meantime notified cabin crew of the cockpit fire prompting an immediate rapid disembarkment via the jetways, then moved on to find somebody with a radio unit, stopped a car on the service way underneath the jetway and radioed the fire department, first fire trucks arrived about 3 minutes after the fire was first observed. Rapid deplanement was completed in about 4-5 minutes. Fire fighters were able to extinguish the fire quickly, all works to extinguish and cool the aircraft were finished about 94 minutes after the onset of fire.
If that happened inflight, noone would survive IMHO. |