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Wesdag
29 Jan 14 16:31
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How many mortgages I wonder is she responsible paying?

The latest hot lead is that petty burglars have now decided to take up child kidnapping.  Do me favour.
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Report Wesdag January 29, 2014 4:32 PM GMT
* responsible for
Report mange January 29, 2014 4:41 PM GMT
Whatever camp your in......................its too late in the day
Report Wesdag January 29, 2014 4:45 PM GMT
And in the meantime more millions get paid out to end up precisely nowhere near solving the case.  Nice work if you can get it.
Report mange January 29, 2014 4:48 PM GMT
How much do people normally get if a child goes missing ?
Report Jimmy Diamond January 29, 2014 7:33 PM GMT
Is the suggestion that the police should just give up on any effort of finding the culprits?
Report Wesdag January 29, 2014 7:44 PM GMT
My point is that the police are clutching at straws and having a jolly into the bargain.
Report nortons January 29, 2014 7:47 PM GMT
They would not have started if the parents had been unemployed and resided on a council estate.
Report mange January 29, 2014 7:48 PM GMT
Dont want to upset U JD..................but people think ......................there are no culprits
Report dewey January 29, 2014 9:05 PM GMT
'Suspects due to be arrested' weeks ago............that's what the 'news' said.   So?
Report Wesdag January 29, 2014 9:27 PM GMT
A gravy train that suits all parties just fine.
Report ebulGery January 30, 2014 12:12 AM GMT
They would not have started if the parents had been unemployed and resided on a council estate.

too trueSad
Report naydam January 30, 2014 12:54 AM GMT
Who does 'They' refer to?
Report Wesdag January 30, 2014 1:12 AM GMT
^ plod I suspect
Report naydam January 30, 2014 1:34 AM GMT
That is what I thought it might mean. Although it could have meant the Portuguese Police. I thought that the British police only became involved when it became pretty certain that the investigation had been botched from the start. I can only assume that they would have done exactly he same for any other couple.
Having said that...it would not be easy to get a satisfactory response. You would need to put a great deal of effort into it.
The problem that the police have with this case is the time elapsed and the poor(?) quality of the recorded evidence at the time. Far from being  'jolly', this must be a hell of a difficult case do work on. Sad
Report naydam January 30, 2014 1:35 AM GMT
*to work on*
Report ebulGery January 30, 2014 1:35 AM GMT
I would say the only chance our plod have
is if they can pull in a suspect, get a search warrant, and find evidence of Maddy's DNA

they may have records of telephone conversations to and from known paedophiles
but they still do not know what was said,????

That is the route they are taking I would think, mega difficult if complete stranger snatched her
I would have thought
Report xmoneyx January 30, 2014 1:41 AM GMT
JERRY JERRY JERRY Cool
Report Mcginty January 30, 2014 9:16 AM GMT
As Sir David of Essex would say:

"Oh what a Circus!, Oh what a Show!
Report Ivor January 30, 2014 11:41 AM GMT
We do need to see a few people 'arrested'.
None too important exactly who - just as long as it looks like someat is happening like.
Report Harry R Scrack January 30, 2014 1:14 PM GMT
It's only still news because they're posh and the Dailys Mail and Express are still making a huge hoo-haa about it all. So true, if it had been Madeline McScroty from Basildon, she'd have been forgotten about many moons ago.
Police cant not follow it up because of the media storm those rags mentioned would create
Report xmoneyx January 30, 2014 1:22 PM GMT
they will be under pressure when maddie gran photo fit is released
Report ebulGery January 30, 2014 1:48 PM GMT
Laugh
Report Wesdag February 14, 2014 11:59 AM GMT
And so it goes on...

Scotland Yard has played down speculation of imminent arrests in the case saying they are pursuing several lines of inquiry. Met officers have been to Portugal more than 20 times in the past 18 months.
Report Ken Masters February 14, 2014 12:04 PM GMT
"'Tempo of Madeleine McCann inquiry moving forwards,' say police "

They're achieving forward motion, in chit-chat terms.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/tempo-of-madeleine-mccann-inquiry-moving-forwards-say-police-9126239.html?origin=internalSearch
Report Ken Masters February 14, 2014 12:09 PM GMT
Come to think of it, the tempo is moving forwards? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Roughly speaking, the content of plod's press release indicates that time moves forward in a largely chronological fashion. An incredible piece of police say-nothing bullsh!t, have they nothing better to do with their time, except increase it, moving forwards?
Report bix February 14, 2014 12:27 PM GMT
pursuing several lines of enquiry is plodspeak for "we are clutching a few straws as otherwise we've no idea what happened."
Report naydam February 14, 2014 2:19 PM GMT
They are trying to get on with an investigation. They would probably appreciate if Joe Public and the press would let them get on with it. I doubt if the police ever want to make interim reports unless appealing for witnesses.
I don't suppose that anybody might consider that all this travelling to and from Portugal might be a pain in the arse.
Everything is stacked against them and it takes a lot of self-discipline and a strong work ethic to maintain your professional standards in situations like that. It's particularly annoying when everybody seems to think that you are just enjoying yourself!

Perhaps these accusations say more about the posters than the police. Perhaps the accusations are correct. Maybe they DO have a sliding scale of funds allotted to missing children, depending upon the financial state of the parents. I suppose it could, or maybe should, be argued that the child of a well-educated, married couple might represent a greater loss than the urchin of some single woman who will never work and doesn't know who it's father is.
Report Ivor February 14, 2014 2:30 PM GMT
I know you have always been supportive of the enquiry Naydam - contrary to the majority of we cynics.
But even you would agree the police, if you are correct, have created their own problem with nonsense such as the 'Crimewatch' programme and promises of developments and imminent arrests of unknown burglars etc. Also the Lisbon libel case which is stagnant.
This is going nowhere - not this week or next or next month or year, I'm sad to say.
Report bigH February 14, 2014 2:53 PM GMT
the tapas mob deserve more scrutiny

they could solve it in a week if they really wanted to, but sadly they don't appear to want to

I wonder why?
Report naydam February 14, 2014 2:56 PM GMT
I have to agree, Ivor. The trail, if there ever was a trail, has gone cold. To be honest, I was always very worried that the media made such a big thing of the easily identifiable abnormality with her eye. Whoever had her, if indeed she WAS kidnapped, would surely realise that could prove to be a problem to them.
In my opinion those photographs seriously endangered the child's life. That is assuming, of course, that she was alive at the time. There are plenty of people who think that she may not have been.
Report 1st time poster February 14, 2014 3:55 PM GMT
ffs you,d need to be within an inch of her face with a magnifying class to notice her eye,do you think whoever took her if she was taken, would let anybody within a country mile of her,she was 4 m,she could talk ffs , Devil
Report naydam February 14, 2014 4:03 PM GMT
I was referring to any future visits to a doctor or optician or the police. Or, indeed, if she was ever to check the internet or whatever they might have in ten years time. That identifying mark will be with her for life...or t least as long as she has that eye.
Report Wesdag February 14, 2014 6:05 PM GMT
naydam Laugh

Some of your comments are tongue in cheek, surely?
Report RickiBobby February 14, 2014 7:02 PM GMT
Feel sorry for the Mccans but the police are going nowhere with it and the whole think needs to stop.
Report Wesdag February 14, 2014 7:22 PM GMT
^ I feel most sorry for Madeleine, personally.
Report Wesdag March 19, 2014 3:22 PM GMT
Seems like plod have come up with a new line of enquiry.  And there was me thinking they were just out there on a jolly.

I await developments with baited breath...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26646885
Report Ivor March 19, 2014 4:03 PM GMT
Dont do that Wesdaq - just breathe normally - there's no hurry.
Report twonky March 19, 2014 4:30 PM GMT
Only a matter of time before everybody in Portugal is eliminated, except the parents.
Report naydam March 19, 2014 4:49 PM GMT
Some interesting new info has become available. Apparently, it was due to the BBC Crimewatch programme. That is pleasing to hear.

I'm fairly sure that the parents and their friends will have been eliminated already. They would be the first people questioned. I can only assume that the police are satisfied with the innocence of ALL the 'Tapas' group.
Report 1st time poster March 19, 2014 4:52 PM GMT
budget day everyone watching tv lets release some carp about the case,next it will be every banbk holiday they,ll release something,whats changed today from yesterday why didnt they release this non news yesterday
Report Bergkamp93 March 19, 2014 4:52 PM GMT
Max Clifford has her  NAP !!
Report 1st time poster March 19, 2014 4:59 PM GMT
has or had
Report Wesdag April 23, 2014 2:04 PM BST
Looks like another series of jollies have been lined up by plod:

"Scotland Yard says it hopes UK officers will begin operations in Portugal soon."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27122951

Ah well, best pack some sun cream and a floppy hat...Cool
Report xmoneyx April 23, 2014 2:46 PM BST
imagine if portugese cops were going around UK looking at  a unsolved case

local cops would be really p^ssed off

I think portugese cops are having a quiet laughCool
Report 1st time poster April 23, 2014 5:15 PM BST
so after all this time a british family in the same resort had their daughter sexualy attacked,
didnt go to the police at the time and having come forward during the zillions of mcaan appeals ,

do me a favour
Report Wesdag April 23, 2014 5:34 PM BST
Worth investigating...especially if it means a few more trips to the Algarve and more overtime etc.
Report naydam April 23, 2014 8:44 PM BST
I don't recall any unsolved kidnap/murder cases regarding Portuguese nationals in this country. I'm sure that, if such a case does exist, the British police will help wherever possible.

Perhaps the British family referred to by '!st time poster' were unaware of the alleged assault. That would account for not reporting it to the police. Anyway, it seems that they HAVE reported it now. I assume the Portuguese police will conduct a thorough investigation. Perhaps they could make the details known to the team on the McCann case.
Report Wesdag April 24, 2014 4:00 PM BST
They've got more chance of finding Lord Lucan than solving this case.

Far more beneficial for all parties to keep the "investigation" going. Cool
Report RickiBobby April 24, 2014 4:05 PM BST
Those who have leeched finance off the Mccanns by giving them hope that Madeliene may be found should be ashamed of themselves.
It must be dreadful for them not knowing and they have conducted themselves with great dignity.
Report 1st time poster April 24, 2014 5:34 PM BST
they were aware and reported to the tour operator, neither the parents or the tour operator reported it to the police which rather shows how serious they thought it was
Report akabula April 24, 2014 5:39 PM BST
@Ricki
I trust you are being sarcastic with your Mccanns conducted themselves with great dignity comment.
Report A_T April 24, 2014 8:48 PM BST
There must be an almost limitless number of dodgy individuals who can be linked to the Algarve in some way - this investigation has only just started.
Report TEABAGHDAD April 24, 2014 10:21 PM BST
Nobody mention the video of the two best sniffer dogs in the world who detected the scent of death in mccanns appartment.

Nobody mention the man with brown hair who was roughly gerrys height walking towards the beach carrying a young girl.

Nobody mention the catholic church that gave gerry the keys thats located by the beach and was never searched (the perfect place to store a body until some very high ranking people could get rid of it)

Nobody mention gordon brown, gerrys top mate and nobody mention paedophile rings ran by the people in the highest positions of power.


Dont blame it on the gerry
Dont blame it on the katee
Blame it on the portuguese boogie man


Nobody mention the portuguese police were certain the parents were involved lets instead completely discredit the portuguese police and make out they are clueless muppets.

Anybody who believes kate and gerry had anything to do with it bonkers clearly
Report naydam April 25, 2014 1:00 AM BST
Teabag. So, if the Portuguese police and the sniffer dogs were doing so well...why didn't they uncover any actual evidence? Something that could be produced in court, instead of a load of accusations and insinuations? Would the sniffer dogs have given evidence under oath? I think not!
Report xmoneyx April 25, 2014 1:38 AM BST
copper

Jack Russell gave evidence
Report Clungehungry April 25, 2014 3:55 AM BST
'the two best sniffer dogs in the world'.

Priceless.
Report GRANTCKING April 26, 2014 9:30 PM BST
yeh this whole thing is a total farce, they know what they did, time to confess
Report egner April 26, 2014 9:36 PM BST
jeez....cant believe you guys havn't joined the dots yet...

all the info you need is on the main thread.....

..start with operation ore and use your common sense....aint rocket science...nope.

oh.....and look out for the allocated number without any information documented within it.
Report GRANTCKING April 26, 2014 10:44 PM BST
wheres the main thread?
Report Clungehungry April 29, 2014 2:53 AM BST
No, it certainly isn't rocket science! Far from it!
Report DStyle May 5, 2014 6:18 PM BST
off again to dig up some land.

wonder how that makes gerry feel, who will be staying at home.
Report mange May 5, 2014 6:54 PM BST
shurley Cameron will have him flown out....................
Report Wesdag June 2, 2014 2:25 PM BST
Great timing for the latest jolly...just in time for the start of the holiday season.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27664401
Report mange June 2, 2014 9:39 PM BST
C.A.T.S. stuff.............................vanished ?
Report leazes67 June 17, 2014 11:10 AM BST
ttt
Report xmoneyx June 17, 2014 11:42 AM BST
look forward to the next crimewatch uk,with all the new evidence Tongue Out
Report guinness2dear June 17, 2014 3:59 PM BST
Maybe a female porn star this time?
Report Wesdag July 2, 2014 5:43 PM BST
Questioning of four suspects in the Madeleine McCann investigation has concluded without any new developments, a source has told the BBC....

The source told the BBC: "Questioning of the four suspects was concluded yesterday evening. Unfortunately the interviews have led to no new developments and we are back where we were seven years ago."


Well there's a surprise.
What a complete waste of money for the taxpayer.
No doubt plod has lined another series of jollies to explore other lines of enquiry.
Report 1st time poster July 2, 2014 6:33 PM BST
that russian was interviewed when it 1st happened and we were told he was a contact of that murat fella and calls were exchanged between them,so why interview him and not murat,is murat still in the frame,is he still in praiz de luge
Report guinness2dear July 2, 2014 7:39 PM BST
In other news, the dogs are back..
Report GoBallistic July 2, 2014 8:21 PM BST
I can think of better jollies than digging up an old pet cemetary and searching sewers in 30 deg C heat.  It looks like the obvious lines of enquiry have been off-limits for SY as some reports suggested they would be when the investigation was re-opened but hopefully they are actually being a lot smarter than they appear at first glance
Report Wesdag July 2, 2014 8:35 PM BST
poor old plod - ain't life a bitch
Report A_T July 2, 2014 8:37 PM BST
It looks like the obvious lines of enquiry have been off-limits for SY

Indeed the few real witnesses from the night of the disappearance apparently not interviewed - at least not that we know of.
Report The Priest July 2, 2014 11:53 PM BST
Said it before and I will repeat it again , told on good authority that when the Yorkshire Ripper Peter Sutcliffe was caught by two plods who luckily just happened to stumble upon him , the plods in question were practically 'Sent To Coventry' by the rest of the beat bobbies as the OT they were getting doing 'Ripper checks' etc was paying for new houses, cars etc and that was all taken away from them.
Report Wesdag July 3, 2014 3:55 PM BST
Sounds familiar.

Suits all concerned to keep this charade going and the taxpayer continues to pick up the bill.
Report naydam July 3, 2014 4:06 PM BST
The taxpayer pays the police to do a job. That is what they are trying to do. They may not make any significant progress from these latest events, although, even elimination from investigation is progress.
Report 1st time poster July 3, 2014 5:15 PM BST
they,ve already been eliminated 7 yrs ago
Report Wesdag July 3, 2014 5:39 PM BST
That's the point naydam, it's a complete waste of taxpayers money and there will continue to be absolutely nothing to show for it.

How many more millions will continue to be spent eliminating everyone who happened to be in the Algarve in 2007 from the investigation?
Report khyber kim July 3, 2014 6:53 PM BST
Not sure what westdags issue is but the British Police are just doing what should have been done during the initial stages of the enquiry.

It's a waste of time and they need a lot of luck but there are a lot of missing kids across Spain Portugal and France unaccounted for over the last 30 years,
Report A_T July 3, 2014 7:00 PM BST
Nothing wrong with what the Portuguese police did - there was never anything linking these men with Maddie's disappearance but for some reason it's taken 3+ years for the Yard to figure this out. Grange should be rigorously interviewing the most important witnesses in the investigation - the Tapas 9.
Report Wesdag July 3, 2014 7:32 PM BST
khyber kim     Joined: 05 Oct 03
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Not sure what westdags issue is but the British Police are just doing what should have been done during the initial stages of the enquiry
.

Exactly.  Just going through the motions.
Little point SEVEN years later.
Report naydam July 3, 2014 9:52 PM BST
I think the police might have already interviewed the Tapas Nine. I can't imagine why anybody would assume that they haven't.
It's quite possible that I'm totally wrong. Maybe they haven't interviewed them. You'd think that they'd have thought of that, though. Well, I would think they had anyway. What the outcome of such questioning might have been is not for the public to know yet.
Report dewey July 3, 2014 10:05 PM BST
Will go down in history as one of life's 'unsolved' mysteries - if they don't know now - they never will.
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