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half a billion pounds sterling. Now, I would like to add that this amount is more than any other amount matched by any other EU country, but I can't. This amount of aid is more than what the whole of the EU has donated put together!!
Words fail me, but I can't help thinking this will add a few hundred thousand votes to UKIP at the next general election. That aside, what happened to the austerity measures this government were making? This money could have built a much needed new hospital somewhere in the country, it could have been given to fund cancer research, dementia etc. But no, for some reason this government has ignored that and given it to people who on the whole despise the west.
PS No idea how much Iran or Russia has donated...
Words fail me, but I can't help thinking this will add a few hundred thousand votes to UKIP at the next general election. That aside, what happened to the austerity measures this government were making? This money could have built a much needed new hospital somewhere in the country, it could have been given to fund cancer research, dementia etc. But no, for some reason this government has ignored that and given it to people who on the whole despise the west.
PS No idea how much Iran or Russia has donated...
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To be honest, a helluva lot of totally innocent, normal people are suffering extreme hardship at this time. It's not crisis that we can just ignore. The refugees need help...and they need it now!
I only hope that the aid goes towards what it is meant to provide, and not into some 'administrator's pocket.
I suppose sometimes you just have to do what you feel is right, instead of waiting to see what everybody else does. Perhaps the 'others' might act by our example and get their communal finger out!
I've seen half-billions wasted upon worse things.
I only hope that the aid goes towards what it is meant to provide, and not into some 'administrator's pocket.
I suppose sometimes you just have to do what you feel is right, instead of waiting to see what everybody else does. Perhaps the 'others' might act by our example and get their communal finger out!
I've seen half-billions wasted upon worse things.
Perhaps the 'others' might act by our example and get their communal finger out!
Don't hold your breath.
Don't hold your breath.
They despise Britain, it is morally wrong to be giving aid to these countries.
11,000 men women and children tortured and murdered
Attack all military bases now and set up no-fly zone.....Russia won't do anything....Sochi would be cancelled
Attack all military bases now and set up no-fly zone.....Russia won't do anything....Sochi would be cancelled
stewartyb, remember there are millions of refugees fleeing from the most vile of humanity (see NL and co). And think back to when most of the world turned away from the persecuted jews of Nazi germany, including the cowardly FDR who turned the fleeing Jews back to Germany.
the UK economy will be less able to afford its quota of Special Brew, but at least it won't be France, or Germany, or an FDR Mini-Me USA surrender monkey.
the UK economy will be less able to afford its quota of Special Brew, but at least it won't be France, or Germany, or an FDR Mini-Me USA surrender monkey.
(see NL and co).
You've lost me there polybot. Could you enlighten me please.
You've lost me there polybot. Could you enlighten me please.
the vast majority of the refugees are victims of a parasitic minority, who seek to stir up division, misery and hatred to achieve their own personal ends, or the ends of their masters.
You could be talking about the few politics posters that have made it on to chit-chat.
Still no clues as to why the UK is sending more money than the rest of the EU put together??
they are taking it off our sick/poor and giving that money to other countries.
perhaps Britain is a more caring society ...
not to be confused with Cameron's Big Society which devolves caring for the British people from the government.
not to be confused with Cameron's Big Society which devolves caring for the British people from the government.
perhaps Britain is a more caring society ...
So, every time there's a civil war anywhere in the world, it's a case of, fck this for a caper, phone the UK, plenty mugs reside there.
So, every time there's a civil war anywhere in the world, it's a case of, fck this for a caper, phone the UK, plenty mugs reside there.
When I think about it, why do we keep pumping millions into India and Pakistan every year? Both are nuclear powers and of course India has it's own obligatory space programme..
our population is about a 3rd of say Pakistan, so we should send a third of what they do in aid.
its time we kept our noses and money out of these muslim countries and let them get on with it, all they seem to want is civil war of some description
its time we kept our noses and money out of these muslim countries and let them get on with it, all they seem to want is civil war of some description
The refugees are on there way as I type. Five hundred......for starters..
I only hope they house them next door to the ones who brought them here.
It's never the do-gooders who have to put up with them.
If it's right to take in a few hundred, then why not a few thousand or a few million?
It's the same principle.
Then take a hard look at Africa.
How many millions of them would we have to take before our bleeding-hearts start to feel better?
It's the same principle.
Then take a hard look at Africa.
How many millions of them would we have to take before our bleeding-hearts start to feel better?
And when the 500 arrive they will be given a home, Advice on the benefits they can claim, Given money to fit the house out with funiture including a 40inch tv and free tv licence. Plus they will be exempt from the bedroom tax because they are our guests.
They tell us that their coming here will be a temporary arrangement.
That won't happen.
Once they're here they'll be here to stay. Make no mistake about that.
That won't happen.
Once they're here they'll be here to stay. Make no mistake about that.
As your unlikely to listen to me or more rational posters, listen to your own leader Nigel Farage who last month said Britain must honour its international treaties and take in Syrian refugees.
The US has already committed 1 billion pounds and the UK some 600,000, and while a country like Germany only 200,000 - one third of British. Germany has committed to take in 10,000
Syrian refugees, we so far are committed to take in 0.
We know we are going to need 7 million more immigrants by 2050 so to do our international duty now is in our long term national interest and many will return home anyway when the conflict is over.
The whole world turned a blind eye to what was happening in Germany in the 1930's and refused to take in significant numbers of Jews attempting to flee, resulting in mass slaughter. We must not make the same mistake again.
Get on to your local MP and tell him/her to get their finger out and demand Britain commits!
The US has already committed 1 billion pounds and the UK some 600,000, and while a country like Germany only 200,000 - one third of British. Germany has committed to take in 10,000
Syrian refugees, we so far are committed to take in 0.
We know we are going to need 7 million more immigrants by 2050 so to do our international duty now is in our long term national interest and many will return home anyway when the conflict is over.
The whole world turned a blind eye to what was happening in Germany in the 1930's and refused to take in significant numbers of Jews attempting to flee, resulting in mass slaughter. We must not make the same mistake again.
Get on to your local MP and tell him/her to get their finger out and demand Britain commits!
You do realise maleuk, Crippin, stewarty, that your attitude and cheerleading to prevent a a life line away from human disaster that will not have the slightest effect on your everyday life, will in fact help sentence innocent people to death.
You think that is a normal way for a human being to behave?
You think that is a normal way for a human being to behave?
northernlad, no matter how much you try and help they will continue to blow each other up. If you want to stop this madness going on in the muslim world they have to change how they think about human life. So you should focus on how you would do that.
Untill that happens there is nothing we can do, just papering over cracks.
And bringing such like minded individuals into a country they seem to hate? That is just raising tensions in this country.
Untill that happens there is nothing we can do, just papering over cracks.
And bringing such like minded individuals into a country they seem to hate? That is just raising tensions in this country.
You could have said that about Northern Ireland in the 70's, 80's.
its not the 70's or 80's is it. And as far as I remember it NI didn't need billions in aid, didn't kill hundreds of thousands of people or create 10's of thousands of refugee's.
Once again your argument is just a very poor one, ill thought out and of no comparison, so not sure why you mentioned it really, I can only presume you are of relatively low intelligence.
Only way to solve these cival wars as mentioned is to alter their attitudes, which you have no answer for.
Once again your argument is just a very poor one, ill thought out and of no comparison, so not sure why you mentioned it really, I can only presume you are of relatively low intelligence.
Only way to solve these cival wars as mentioned is to alter their attitudes, which you have no answer for.
Syria didn't have the British or any other Army to keep the peace as in NI, and has a population of 22 million, considerably larger, so obviously the conflict has gone further, into civil war, and on a far greater scale.
You seem to be of the opinion that only Muslim country's have periods of social unrest leading to civil war. Syria, Egypt, Libya were all relatively peaceful for decades until the recent Arab spring uprisings. We only have to look at the Balkans to see that European Christian countries are not immune from quickly going from civil unrest to civil war.
So your point that its specifically Muslim countries who find themselves in these desperate situations needing international help is not born out by historical fact, is it?
You seem to be of the opinion that only Muslim country's have periods of social unrest leading to civil war. Syria, Egypt, Libya were all relatively peaceful for decades until the recent Arab spring uprisings. We only have to look at the Balkans to see that European Christian countries are not immune from quickly going from civil unrest to civil war.
So your point that its specifically Muslim countries who find themselves in these desperate situations needing international help is not born out by historical fact, is it?
Jan 28, 2014 -- 1:52PM, The Leopard wrote:
11,000 men women and children tortured and murderedAttack all military bases now and set up no-fly zone.....Russia won't do anything....Sochi would be cancelled
What was said in Jan 2014
stewarty b 28 Jan 14 14:49 Joined: 02 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 9,307 | Blogger: stewarty b's blog
(see NL and co).
You've lost me there polybot. Could you enlighten me please.
Not the first time you've been lost on the forum, is it?
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lfc1971 28 Jan 14 13:14 Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 6,477 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
They despise Britain, it is morally wrong to be giving aid to these countries.
To be fair, they probably despise having the sh1te bombed out of them as well.
(see NL and co).
You've lost me there polybot. Could you enlighten me please.
Not the first time you've been lost on the forum, is it?
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lfc1971 28 Jan 14 13:14 Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 6,477 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
They despise Britain, it is morally wrong to be giving aid to these countries.
To be fair, they probably despise having the sh1te bombed out of them as well.
Yes they should stop doing it, but they seem to persist in blowing up and killing each other.
Dont forget the numbers we have blown up and killed in the Middle East lfc1971
If we insist in invading other countries, I have little sympathy for us
My simpathy is with them, we have left bloody chaos out there, and we can't even stop it now.......Syria is out of control
Who do you think is the one country who has benefited from all this.....ISRAEL, they fund ISIS.
All this appalling slaughter has been done for them, nobody else
If we insist in invading other countries, I have little sympathy for us
My simpathy is with them, we have left bloody chaos out there, and we can't even stop it now.......Syria is out of control
Who do you think is the one country who has benefited from all this.....ISRAEL, they fund ISIS.
All this appalling slaughter has been done for them, nobody else
Nothing to do with Russia or Iran, they have not invaded anybody.
All Russia is doing is looking after their own interests
But I think a solution must involve Russia, because they will not allow Assad to lose
It goes on.
ps
Anybody who thinks we should declare war on Russia, please remember they have NUCLEAR WEAPONS
and our country aint that big
All Russia is doing is looking after their own interests
But I think a solution must involve Russia, because they will not allow Assad to lose
It goes on.
ps
Anybody who thinks we should declare war on Russia, please remember they have NUCLEAR WEAPONS
and our country aint that big
ebul I think even you know you`re talking nonsense there.
Poor Israel, surrounded by lunatics on every side. yep its their fault
Expect that sort of thing from the leftists I suppose.
Expect that sort of thing from the leftists I suppose.
Britain is not in the business of invading countries. Yes they invaded Nazi Germany and many others...but only to civilize them.
And Merkel wants the EU to give Turkey 6 billion + free visas to everyone in Turkey, to exchange a few thousand migrants.
That stupid woman and the EU are insane.
That stupid woman and the EU are insane.
Does Merkel want the UK out of the EU? Every thing she does makes me a stronger out voter.
One idea I have is for the West to guarantee Russia's interests will be protected in this region.
Then we may be able to BYPASS Assad. Possible solutions may involve the partition of Syria, into Sunni and Shai bits.
The same with Iraq.
ISIS are a loose cannon who seem to want to kill everyone. My suggestion, force them back into N.Iraq and leave them to stew there
while we try to settle Syria.
All this involves something called STATEMANSHIP...but are our leaders up to it?
All we have at the moment is lots of emotion and killing which is getting us nowhere.
There may be other solutions here but I urge us to use STATEMANSHIP. We try to give evrybody something of what they want even if we cannot anybody
ALL of what they want.
Or we just go on as we are.
Then we may be able to BYPASS Assad. Possible solutions may involve the partition of Syria, into Sunni and Shai bits.
The same with Iraq.
ISIS are a loose cannon who seem to want to kill everyone. My suggestion, force them back into N.Iraq and leave them to stew there
while we try to settle Syria.
All this involves something called STATEMANSHIP...but are our leaders up to it?
All we have at the moment is lots of emotion and killing which is getting us nowhere.
There may be other solutions here but I urge us to use STATEMANSHIP. We try to give evrybody something of what they want even if we cannot anybody
ALL of what they want.
Or we just go on as we are.
Force Isis back, will that involve the RAF dropping bombs?
lfc1971
ISRAEL should not have been created. That is core to evrything in the Middle East
However I do see they cannot now be uncreated, which is why we need STATEMANSHIP
I am not speaking nonsense you are lfc1971
just my opinion
ISRAEL should not have been created. That is core to evrything in the Middle East
However I do see they cannot now be uncreated, which is why we need STATEMANSHIP
I am not speaking nonsense you are lfc1971
just my opinion
ebul the creation of Israel was necessary at the time, and a good thing for both jews and muslims who still live and work there. The arabs who still live there are living in a beautiful democratic country.
A stark difference to the barbarity and terror of other countries in the region.
A stark difference to the barbarity and terror of other countries in the region.
It was not NECESSARY.
The barbarity and terror of other countries in the region is because of Israel and because the West invaded those countries
starting with the first Gulf War, there was not much before that.
The barbarity and terror of other countries in the region is because of Israel and because the West invaded those countries
starting with the first Gulf War, there was not much before that.
There was not much problem before that because these countries were kept in check by Russia and the US. The communist block for all its faults ruled these places with an iron glove and kept the cold war peace...now that is over these medieval religions are reverting to type of past centuries of bloodshed.
Yes I think the world has suffered from the fall of the Soviet Union.
These countries may be reverting to past centuries of bloodshed, but unfortunately if we invade countries, so are we.
Try looking at the history Europe, ending up with WW1 and WW11 you may notice a little bloodshed.
Who has killed more Jews? Christian or Muslim countries...I think you may find we win that, Germany killed 6 million alone
about 70 years ago.
These countries may be reverting to past centuries of bloodshed, but unfortunately if we invade countries, so are we.
Try looking at the history Europe, ending up with WW1 and WW11 you may notice a little bloodshed.
Who has killed more Jews? Christian or Muslim countries...I think you may find we win that, Germany killed 6 million alone
about 70 years ago.
ebul invading countries does not mean you are reverting to past centuries of bloodshed.
Just as in ww2 Yes there were millions of deaths, but evil has to be confronted.
Just as in ww2 Yes there were millions of deaths, but evil has to be confronted.
What evil?
There has been far more evil since we intervened....
These guys need strong leadership, by removing it we have done a great wrong,
There has been far more evil since we intervened....
These guys need strong leadership, by removing it we have done a great wrong,
In WWII we did not invade....Hitler and the Japanese did that, we just removed that invading force
It was necessary to occupy Germany and Japan to finish the war...we did not stay
It was necessary to occupy Germany and Japan to finish the war...we did not stay
ebul... the British army have still got troops based in Germany. hth.
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(see NL and co).
You've lost me there polybot. Could you enlighten me please.
Not the first time you've been lost on the forum, is it?
Only took two years for Alias to stalk me this time. Must be a world forum record.
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(see NL and co).
You've lost me there polybot. Could you enlighten me please.
Not the first time you've been lost on the forum, is it?
Only took two years for Alias to stalk me this time. Must be a world forum record.
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