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Lager is actually harder to brew, it takes more time and requires constant low temperatures. Most commercial lager is filtered which removes any yeast, it's then force carbonated. I guess that's where a lot of the taste is lost because any lager I've made has been good.
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what does your lager taste like Ovalman - like wheatbeer ?
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Depends on what I'm brewing. I've only had a brewing fridge a few months so only made a couple of lagers. They take around 4 weeks to ferment because of the lower temperatures. I've made 2 dark lagers, one was a bit too roasty for my liking but it was OK and I know where I went wrong. I've made a SMASH lager (Single malt and single hop) and it was a bit like Carlseberg as I used a Czech yeast. I have a set up to force carbonate but I prefer self carbonating with a little sugar in bottles. Bottles are more work to sterilise but it's easier grabbing a bottle than pulling a pint with my set up, I've plans for an outside bar but that is 6 months away at least.
Wheatbeers are cloudy, I've only made one it was around 6% iirc. I really should keep tasting notes but I don't. Was gonna brew today but the element has went in my boiler. Only a £16 fix but it's scuppered my plans. |
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I like Aspalls as well Coach, Tesco do 3 bottles for a fiver. The local pub also sell it, £4.10 a pint, I'll be off to Tescos shortly!
I wouldn't drink Budweiser if it was free, absolutely ghastly brew imo. |
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Ovalman - hope you have some luck with the brewing . Something i will try when i feel confident enough .Past efforts have been a failure .
4.10 good for London Slippers . 3.90 in these parts ,4.20 out near the coast ![]() |
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I hope this will become the home-brew thread.
If it doesn't we should start one. |
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Always fancied having a go at this so will watch and learn hopefully.
BTW gotta say that sideshowbob is a sad miss for the forum. |
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Lager owes its popularity to the big brewers promoting it since the 1970's. Real Ale (proper beer) is difficult to keep and transport. Mass produced Lager however is indistructable and along with cockroaches will be the only thing that survives after the bomb drops
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I have made a start on home brewing. Started with no kit at all. Decided to spend as little as I thought I could get away with in case I didn't take to it.
Watched the video Ovalman linked to. Had to buy a decent sized stockpot, checked with the wife so that she would get some use out of it if I didn't. It is 8 litre, but ideally a 10 orwould have been bette. I bought a demi john, bung and airlock and thermometer. I also bought half a dozen grolsh type bottles. You will need a jug and funnel. Decided to buy this which includes the malt, hops and yeast and sanitiser for a small 4.5litre batch. I went for Mosaic IPA. It costs £10 plus £4 p&p. This is expensive but a good option because for a first brew you don't want to be worrying about buying stuff separately or worrying about what to buy, what quantities etc. https://www.brewuk.co.uk/beerkits/craftybrews/stove-toppers.html I followed the instructions that came with the ingredients kit. During the mash, the instructions said to keep the temperature at 65 degrees. I found this very difficult to achieve on a gas hob because of trying to keep the heat in, checking with a thermometer. In one case I added way too much heat so may have compromised the brew. We will see. (On my second brew I **** up some insulation sheet I had in the garage like this... http://www.screwfix.com/p/radiator-reflector-foil-470mm-x-4m-1-88m-/88629?kpid=88629&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%2520Listing%2520Ads-_-Sales%2520Tracking-_-sales%2520tracking%2520url&gclid=Cj0KEQjw0IvIBRDF0Yzq4qGE4IwBEiQATMQlMYyQY4UMWAlIJJ0O_ZkN8bLdL6Qrxp15QHlXQBVEP2IaAh2b8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CNCz1qf9yNMCFfgi0wod2EAN5w I cut it around the stock pot and taped it with gaffer tape so that the stock pot fitted snugly inside it. This enabled me to leave it completely for the mash period. When I checked the temp after the hour it was still 65 degrees.) I had to use another large pan I luckily had, for sparging. The boil was fairly straightforward and for my recipe the hops are added in 3 stages. I still have to wait 2 or 3 weeks to test the stuff. I think next brew I will go down to the home-brew shop and have a chat with yer man and buy some malt and hops from him. Overall, it was a great learning experience for me (someone with very little knowledge about how beer is made) and a good grounding for learning more. I now have two demijohns bubbling away and I can't wait to taste the results. |
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Holts bitter is the filthiest muck i've ever drank..
So just put all lagers underneath that.. |
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We import Paulaner, Weihanstephaner & Augustiner. When out and about anything brewed under German purity laws is good, Baltika 7 is a pretty good Dortmunder that you can find in most town centres.
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All commercial beer is decent, it's the way it's kept in the pub that makes the rubbish.
I used to brew. The best brew I ever made was when the gaffer of a Bathams pub got me some yeast from the brewery. The result using a cheap beer kit was remarkable. Which shows how important the yeast you use is. I also made some very good Guinness using the yeast from a bottle of the stuff. |
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Original list is a strange australian leaning selection of p1ss? I wouldn't go for any of it.
I'm a fan of Kronenburg, or if I'm in a shop doorway, Kestrel Super. Ugh I was just trying to think of the worst tasting lager I've had and had a flashback to being sick drinking Special Brew. That stuff is so vile I think it tasted better coming back up ![]() |
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I am always amazed at the range of bottled beers available now. Seems to be hundreds, if not thousands of different brands with ever more colurful labels and weird names. I honestly don't know how they make any profit. My local supermarket were selling bottles of beer for 59p recently, presumably because they've been on the shelf for years. Who the hell is buying all this weird stuff at upwards of £1.65 for a small bottle? Most of it hasn't got enough alcohol in it to get you drunk, unless you drank a large crate of it.
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mass-produced, marketed lager is mostly utter rubbish, some people can't buy any product unless they've seen it advertised and hence it survives. Imported lagers, mostly German or Czech are the way to go, or British micro-brewery lagers. The Germans have laws which prevent poor quality lager being brewed, Reinheizgebot or something like that, you will have to excuse my spelling there
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