Anyone into Juicing?

You're far better off eating the fruit and veg than juicing them. The juicing process removes the fibre although the macro and micronutrients still remain.

If you want to lose weight you'd be better off eating these food as you get far more satiety by eating them whole than consuming them in a liquid form.

Also try and keep the fruits to a minimum as they can be quite calorie dense, if you have to juice then try and use just veg.

I would say this only benefits people who have an unhealthy to moderate diet. It's better to substitute your unhealthy lunch with a veg drink but it's optimal to eat your veggies rather than drink them.

the fibre is v.important. Also helps slows down the digestion so the organs are not hit directly with the juice, putting less stress on the organs.

This morning I juiced spinach, a banana, carrot, strawberries and pineapple, I agree ginger is great, gets rid of the bad taste if theres too much greens

Honestly though guys, I would recommened juicing to anyone

how did you do the banana - couldn't have been that much juice out of it?

I got mine three years, or more, ago.

Like all things American it is not small, but it is fantastic!

There seriously isn't a drop of juice left in the fibre and here is the testament to that.....

"Let the legend live on. Let the message be clear. A friend, an icon, an inspiration… we here at Power Juicer are proud to say Jack LaLanne changed the lives of millions of people worldwide with his healthy living message. If he could help or change one person a day it made him happy. Thank you, Jack. You will be greatly missed. Our prayers and thoughts go out to Elaine LaLanne, Jack’s children, and his family and friends at this time."

Always put root ginger in, also taraggon if you like anise flavour.
Sweet potatoes give a nice creamy sweet flavour also

Yep have to agree, Ginger the daddy, makes the Mean Green palatable.

I once read that juicing destroys a lot of the nutritional value.

ive a good juicer ready to come out

It's better to substitute your unhealthy lunch with a veg drink but it's optimal to eat your veggies rather than drink them.

I thought the maxim was to eat your fruit and drink your veg.

AP:I have the Jack LaLanne, Ive also had it a number of years and I find it a nightmare. It was always a massive messy job peeling and cleaning and Id get it everywhere and its an arse to clean.

I used to do loads at once and fill big tubs and leave in fridge, no way would I use it daily and have to clean that, but after a while the juice in the fridge had a head on it and put me right off.
I used to do oranges melons (that were like water the amount you get out of em) lemons and pinapples.

Has anyone ever tried beetroot?
I cant imagine youd get much out of em and that is why its 2-3 quid a carton in the supermarkets.

I always thought carrots tasted very sweet

did anyone else read the title and think it was a new s e x craze that us oldies didn't know about ?

Oct 17, 2013 -- 1:48PM, MisterBadger wrote:

how did you do the banana - couldn't have been that much juice out of it?

The juicer I've got (nutribullet) you can do it in, it's like a combination of juicer and blender, plus theres no wastage or pulp as its called in the book ive got

Oct 17, 2013 -- 3:11PM, superam wrote:

Yep have to agree, Ginger the daddy, makes the Mean Green palatable.

that's true mate, you can have a horrible tasting (but healthy) drink but put some ginger in and all you can taste is the ginger

Oct 17, 2013 -- 3:38PM, dustybin wrote:

It's better to substitute your unhealthy lunch with a veg drink but it's optimal to eat your veggies rather than drink them. I thought the maxim was to eat your fruit and drink your veg.AP:I have the Jack LaLanne, Ive also had it a number of years and I find it a nightmare. It was always a massive messy job peeling and cleaning and Id get it everywhere and its an arse to clean.I used to do loads at once and fill big tubs and leave in fridge, no way would I use it daily and have to clean that, but after a while the juice in the fridge had a head on it and put me right off.I used to do oranges melons (that were like water the amount you get out of em) lemons and pinapples.Has anyone ever tried beetroot?I cant imagine youd get much out of em and that is why its 2-3 quid a carton in the supermarkets.

Get the nurtibullet mate, takes about 2 secs to clean

Only a matter of time before judorick comes on here and trumps everyone with his choice of juice ingredients.

arrr god man, my house is like a dixons store, I have so many toasters, toastie makers, george forman grills, juicers blenders and all that crap, every year something comes out, gets used for 6 months then forgotten

No point doing a lot and putting it in the fridge as most of beneficial effects of juices will dissipate minutes after its made.
Cleaning is the biggest bugbear, I agree

I agree with Get on MASSIVE.

/Water drinker

I just do a pint a day and drink it in a min or 2, just rinse the blade and cup under the tap and its clean

Get the nurtibullet mate, takes about 2 secs to clean

Where do you find the time?

Where can you get this nurtibullet of which you speak?

Ive just been in the kitchen liam to see what wattage my kenwood blender is and its upto 900 watts, that bullet thing is just a blender but using a selling factor of just 600 watts
Im pretty sure everyone has a blender in their kitchen thats as strong or stronger than that.
Its just another product trying to get ppl to spend money on it imo

"AP:I have the Jack LaLanne, Ive also had it a number of years and I find it a nightmare. It was always a massive messy job peeling and cleaning and Id get it everywhere and its an arse to clean".


Can't argue with that, as it is a pain, but just put it down as par for the course!

obv its a product trying to get ppl to buy it, I mean its just a blender, nowt special, no doubt attempting to be sold to ppl with existing blenders as a 'fruit drink blender'

thinking about it my kenwood has that same detachable blade (among others) and has a nut cruncher mill the same shape as theat bullet
I might give it a go juicing, I rarely used it for that.....infact I cant remember what the hell I did buy it for

Ill tell you what is good tho
The massive foreman grill, Ive had to get replacement detachable grill plates as its been well used
Im thinking of getting the sous vide too, thats meant to be the bollox

Sushma syndrome

ohhh cripes

I do like me gadgets and gizmos
Its like a technology elephant's graveyard here, if it stirred my interest I bought it (Im a product designer by trade so its par for the course)

sorry Ive f uckin done it again, s hit all over the thred subject
carry on dont mind me
juicing

You need to fill the void with something positive dusty or we will end up seeing you on the next series of "my next door neighbour the hoarder"

Apologies here too, back to the juicing

I dont roll up my turds in newspaper and keep em or owt
I only buy stuff not collect rubbish, i tend to give stuff away for next to nowt when bored with em.
Ive been very lucky in the innovation field so can get my little toys to play with, it generally inspires me to bring my own things out which then finance the next wave
I do have a guilty conscience though about the fact that I perpetuate the horrid consumerism that exists where people push crap with ever decreasing product life cycles and lots of waste

but cocaine helps

My next door neighbour the hoarder then straight over to BBC2 for Dragons Den

Ffs, then back over to BBC3 for Hoarding,Invention and Cocaine by Sarah Dooley

dont need venture capitalist nowadays, those maggots are out of a job in future.
Source funding will meet the equilibrium  for products, will be perfect efficiency and break the power hold people with money have over others (within product development anyway)

Oct 17, 2013 -- 4:15PM, Aunty Post wrote:

Get the nurtibullet mate, takes about 2 secs to cleanWhere do you find the time?Where can you get this nurtibullet of which you speak?

just google it mate, loads of places in the uk sell it

Oct 17, 2013 -- 4:16PM, dustybin wrote:

Ive just been in the kitchen liam to see what wattage my kenwood blender is and its upto 900 watts, that bullet thing is just a blender but using a selling factor of just 600 wattsIm pretty sure everyone has a blender in their kitchen thats as strong or stronger than that.Its just another product trying to get ppl to spend money on it imo

im no scientist, so I don't know exactly how it works but it does make the drink into a smoothie, whereas your blender will just make it all mushy, its nothing like a blender, in how the the drink is.

I don't know if they are referred to as blenders or food processors tbh, it's just all marketing.
This bullet is identical to one of the parts of general food processors (the blender) only that the motor on the bullet is less powerful.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, just that it's only a blender marketed as a smoothie maker /juicer as far as I can see. The mechanism is exactly the same, centrifugal force and as they say 'cyclonic action'
The shape of the screw in jar where the fruit goes is just a longer version of a grinder mill that comes with food processors.

If I'm honest they have a bit of a cheek considering with food processors you get loads more stuff and more power for about the same price.
However, the point is you are happy using it so continue to enjoy it, just I'd guess most ppl have what that is if they own a processor.

It's much like when companies use rhetoric like contains 'such and such technology' or something like that.
Most times it's just guff marketing tactics to sound better than the competition.

This is my juicer

.http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4225427.htm

I've had it for about 5 years and it's still going strong.

I think the pulp could be a bit drier but it dues a good job and is really easy to clean.

I always put a plastic bag in the pulp chamber so that saves a lot of mess.

I then rinse all other removable bits under the tap then wash them up. They would go in a dishwasher if you've got one.

I nearly always add a couple of apples to my juice to sweeten it, and a bit of lemon and ginger.

Yummy

Yeah that's a conventional juicer, a machine that separates juice from pulp like the jack lalanne
It is messy and when you think about it you are actually throwing the best bit away.
With the blender you get the whole goodness but end up with a thicker smoothie.

I think the smoothie has gained in popularity in recent times with the advent of innocent and the acceptance that the peel etc contains most of the good stuff.

Its a bit gloopy tho

There's a recipe book with the jack L that recommends using the pulp for cooking, something I'm too cool to partake in ofc.
I just get the pulp everywhere and after washing the juicer so many times the silver paint has all pealed off making it look tatty

I was into making a lot of green smoothies for a while.

I bought this book

.http://www.amazon.co.uk/Green-Life-Victoria-Boutenko/dp/155643930X/ref=la_B001JS03S6_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1382043313&sr=1-1#_

It's a very good read.

But I prefer the concentrated hit you can only get from juices.

Yes, you need the fibre too but I eat plenty of whole fruits and veggies for that.

One smoothie I love is spinach and banana.

I chuck a bag of spinach leaves, a couple of bananas and some rice drink in the blender.

It really is delicious. I sometimes add some hemp oil from the Good Oil company and some grated creamed coconut.

I went out tonight guys for the first time in a while and the difference was amazing.

Id been a bit down for ages but felt like the life and soul of the party, loads of different people commented on how good I looked and got a lot of attention of females, this hasn't happened in ages, its genuinelyt made a huge difference

modern day brevil toaster. Destined to be found under the stairs with no plug on it

Rafa nadal big into it apparently

Well, inspired by this thread I have just had a go with the kenwood blender with what was left in the fridge.
1 lemon
2 carrots
Handful of blackberrys
Actimel
Scoup of strawberry protein powder
Couple of handfuls of spinach.

To try and describe the taste.....I have never actually tasted emulsion, but I imagine it to be a bit like this.
Though strangely it's not that bad...a bit like PVA glue is surprisingly not un edible.

Update

I just had a little retch attempting to drink it all
There was loads, maybe half handfuls and only 1 carrot

In a blender?

I blended it in the blender
but poured half of it down the bog

made in a blender they call that soup

you need a nurtibullet not a blender, it will be like water if you do it in that, in the blender it will be like mush, itll make u sick

liam, that bullet thing IS a blender, the results will be much the same....
The blade is the same but the power is higher in the kenwood

it came out smooth like a smoothie

it slid down the bog lovely

Oct 18, 2013 -- 2:12PM, dustybin wrote:

liam, that bullet thing IS a blender, the results will be much the same....The blade is the same but the power is higher in the kenwood

I hear what you are saying and I have no idea why but the results are nothing like a blender, if I made the same drink in a blender I would not be able to drink it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVJ2i-owUCY

go to be about 2.55 in this vid and youll see the difference in the 2

as soon as I heard the accent I started to switch off tbh
look at the morons sat around the table ffs all smiling on script, surprised they wernt 'whoop whooping usa usa' like at an apple conference.

that was a s hite blender using a jug
good blenders come with grinder mills, they are the same shape as the bullet

but either way if its making your eyes sparkle and your coat glossy liam keep using it

lol fair enough, its honestly the best thing I ever bought

that woman sat at the front wearing the bins who nods a lot and is laughably taking notes and those two birds who look at each other and go 'wow' need their rattling brains banging together imo

Are they really saying that it cures bad backs and stops old women drying up and going on the turn ffs?

it cured my psoriasis I dunno about bad backs tbh

everything seems to come out green from it
I dont know how long I cold endure it
I might get one to see what its all about, if its just another blender Ill give it the olds and see if they start cartwheeling down the street

If you want juice by a juicer.

got one

i have a matstone juicer, and a new blender which claims to juice, but the blender doesn't produce anything like the matstone even using the filters they provide

The blenders and mass produced blenders are rubbish , but they will squeeze our a fraction of the juice that a [roper juicer does/

And yes they can cure a multitude of problems , i never would of believed it till had been using one for a month , the results have been extraordinary

I got a Nutribullet for Xmas and it is just a blender. I have a fruit smoothie everyday and mine was leaking so someone got me the Nutribullet.

Very disappointed. Can't see any advantage over my food processor at all.

this is my latest juicer, I have owned 5 previous models of all kinds and am still looking for the ideal machine for my needs

http://www.greenstar.com/star2.asp

my juice is medicine for me, I mainly do dark green leafy veg, pineapple, celery, pears (flavour masking), ginger and some beets

I chill it over ice, strain it and drink it through a straw, about 1 to 2 litres a day

well worth investing some time and money, live vegetable enzymes and phytonutrients have loads of benefits

That looks a bit more serious. That Nutribullet is a gimic.

I have a 5 fruit smoothie every morning before I go to work as I'm never hungry for a couple of hours after I wake up but need something.

I leave my blender running for probably 5 mins and it does a great job, whilst the nutribullet says not to run it for over one minute.

I'm not even going to see how much they are because that will wind me up even more.

you can get a very decent machine around £200, vertical masticating types are very popular now

centrifugal machines are a waste of money

I've never tried a veg one as luckily for me I do actually love eating them, would'nt mind a few decent recipes to try though.

Something with carrots in, but drinking something green would put me off.

decent machine on ebay

http://ebay.eu/19w82Zv

as I say, I treat drinking my juice as part of my wellness programme and I call it 'medicine', I'm not drinking it for the pleasure but for the health benefits same as the fermented fish oil I take. Chilling it well and adding pears and ginger helps mask the green veg flavour, improves palatibility

one of the key things to look for is a machine that produces juice with no foam

foam = air in the juice

air in juice = short life due to oxidation

Do you make it and store it then?

Yeah I'm going to try and sell that NB, only used it twice.

Buy something like on your link.

I make approx two litres at a time and store it in air tight glass jars in a very cold fridge, but I don't freeze it

usually that will mean making a batch in the am one day and the pm the next day

I tend to drink a 300 to 400 ml glass 3 or 4 times a day

also, storing in the fridge lets any sediment settle and I don't like the sediment, not that there is much but still, prefer it totally clear

Yeah that's what I'd like to do really. Never thought about it before because I only have a fruit one in the morning with milk so I just down it.

Be good to take a veg one to work to have at lunchtime.

if you're taking it to work, get it really cold and put it in a Thermos flask to stay cold, or put the jar/jug in a fridge

warm temps and air destroy the juice quickly and it becomes unpleasant to drink and loses it's vitality so look after your juice, it is a live food and easily deteriorates

Ok thanks some good advice there, you obviously are well into it. I'm going shopping tomorrow and will get some veg to do some trials before I go back to work.

any questions just hit me with a PM, happy to help

"http://www.greenstar.com/star2.asp"

Hi Rick

That's a mightily impressive juicer you have there

I'm still very happy with my Jason Vale/Philips juicer from Argos 

It probably isn't doing a very good job but it's still going strong after 5 years.

I blew the first one up the first day, when I pushed down too hard on a watermelon

I took it back and good old Argos swapped it without question

Thanks for resurrecting this thread, h. I'd forgotten all about it. I love juicing.

I'll post some recipes up later.

hi, yes, that's my machine for making green juice for medicine, it is slow though and you have to cut hard veg up into pieces, leaves are fine though, usual put something juicy like a bit of pineapple or pear in to help with the extraction,

I have a vertical one I use to get juice for drinks and cooking, like OJ for bucks fizz or beetroot juice for stews

it's much quicker but the juice isnt high quality

You say juice for medicine and juice for drinks.

What do you mean by juice for medicine? Sorry if I'm being a bit thick

the high quality veg juice made by the slow juicer is 'medicine' for me, not drinking it for pleasure, often have brocoli, cabbage, kale, sprouts and all kinds in there, it is not the most pleasant, nearly always have celery too and I absolutely hate celery

but if I want some fresh orange juice to go in fizzy water, champagne or lemonade I use the fast machine which is easier to set up and wash, takes no time to make the juice but the quality is not anywhere near as good

"the high quality veg juice made by the slow juicer is 'medicine' for me, not drinking it for pleasure,"

Ah, I see. Yes, some juices are unpleasant aren't they? I think I should make more of the unpleasant ones.

I like the taste of celery in juice. It's nice with carrots. Just celery and carrots

Not a very hard core juicer am I?

I'll find some of my fave recipes later. H might like to try them.

My big problem with juicing is cleaning the blooming thing (nightmare).

Yes I gave up juicing because of that.

it IS  a big problem Dr C, there is no doubt

that's why I make a couple of litres or more at a time or else you're always washing up

think I'm gonna give this a go, I don't seem to eat nearly enough fruit and veg despite doing all my cooking fresh from scratch. Am I correct in thinking my 20 quid blender will be perfectly adequate for knocking up a glass each morning to replace breakfast? A drink for me has to be either very cold or very hot so it'll be a case of chucking a handful of ice in with it. I'm pretty dubious about feeling any benefits tbh but I'll give it a go.

You need a juicer not a blender, alabaster, if you want to make juice.

You could use your £20 blender for this, I posted it earlier in this thread.

One smoothie I love is spinach and banana.

I chuck a bag of spinach leaves, a couple of bananas and some rice drink in the blender.

It really is delicious. I sometimes add some hemp oil from the Good Oil company and some grated creamed coconut.

I used to have this for breakfast but I'm back to porridge or eggs now.

You will feel benefits if you do some serious juicing, btw.

thanks, excuse my ignorance but what exactly are the benefits of 'juiced' juice over 'blended' juice? Intuition would suggest that blended would actually be better for you assuming that a juicer merely removes some fibrous matter. Is it just a practical advantage i.e. a more palatable drink/less volume more nutrients etc?

I'm unlikely to stick with anything that could be termed 'serious'. Will a blended half pint every morning of mixed veg and fruit likely see any benefits?

With juicing you get a concentrated hit of all the good things from the veg. You wouldn't be able to drink enough blended veg to get the same benefit.

I only juice fruit to make veg juice taste nicer. Juiced fruit on its own is liquid sugar. Which isn't good.

I'll let Rick explain it properly.

If I try it might sound like gobbldegook even tho' I will know what I mean

Having said that here's my fav juice recipe with probably a few too many apples!

8  Apples
4  large handfuls of spinach
4  one inch stems of broccili
4  inches of cucunber
Half inch slice of lemon (unwaxed if possible, no need to peel)
1 inch chunk of fressh ginger.
(You can add a bit more of the lemon and ginger but I find that's enough for my taste).

Put it all through a juicer.

This will makes about 1 litre, depending on how efficient your juicer is.

Pour over ice if desired.

I think maybe I should fess up that I'm on the Roses chocolates at the minute

thanks, pretty obvious really I suppose. Oh well, I'll give the blended a go on the premise that something is better than nothing.

Alabaster, if you want to concentrate on just making green smoothies rather than juicing you might like to check out this book.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Green-Life-Victoria-Boutenko/dp/155643930X/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1388425765&sr=1-2&keywords=green+smoothies+victoria

I found it a really interesting read even tho' I prefer juicing.

cheers, I found some of her recipes online so I'll start there and maybe buy the app or book if I get into it.

in my humble opinion, juicing should be viewed a supplementary way to get high doses of powerful nutrients into the body rapidly, and should not be seen as a substitute for food

smoothies are entirely different and you could add oils, coconut, fruit, eggs, seeds, oats and all manner of stuff tosmoothies to turn them into a meal replacement

I don't do smoothies, I prefer to eat my food as it comes rather than mushed up