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i_agree_with_nick
16 Sep 13 20:58
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May well receive a life ban
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Report guinness2dear September 16, 2013 9:05 PM BST
Jail
Report RLKingPunter September 16, 2013 9:12 PM BST
worse than jail, greggs have banned him sine die..
Report sheppy123 September 16, 2013 9:14 PM BST
He can't go to jail, he wouldn't fit in the cell!

Laugh
Report Burton-Brewers September 16, 2013 9:15 PM BST
no sympathy for the greedy ****, my god don't they earn enough?
Report boxingthefox September 16, 2013 9:15 PM BST
The ultimate sin...........................getting caught.Shocked
Report guinness2dear September 16, 2013 9:16 PM BST
Bout time they did jail the twots. Cricketers get banged up. Footyballers used to be..

Jockeys and snucker (Canadian) should follow..
Report elisjohn September 16, 2013 9:17 PM BST
shame he wasn't the world champ, hed got away with a small suspension until april
Report sheppy123 September 16, 2013 9:17 PM BST
John Higgins came close didn't he?
Report elisjohn September 16, 2013 9:18 PM BST
reckon this is hearns showing that cheating wont be toleratedLaugh
Report Petrus Romanus September 16, 2013 9:19 PM BST
Should receive a life ban at the very minimum...no room for cheating in any sport.
Report boxingthefox September 16, 2013 9:20 PM BST
Not just bálls going int pockets.
Report Petrus Romanus September 16, 2013 9:21 PM BST
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Should receive a life ban at the very minimum...no room for cheating in any sport.



Obviously I don't include the likes of WWE in the above...it isn't a sport and every match is ****.
Report boxingthefox September 16, 2013 9:24 PM BST
His missus is quoted as saying. when we do it doggie style, he will only take the pink and leave the brown if I bung him. Plain
Report thedodgepot September 16, 2013 9:30 PM BST
The lad deserves a break. He needed money for food.
Report treble September 16, 2013 9:30 PM BST
Fixing any match is disgraceful, but to throw a match in the world championship that you have a good chance of winning is completely beyond the pale.

If he values a few quid higher than the title of World Snooker Champion, then he has no place in the sport anyway.
Report knot in wood September 16, 2013 9:31 PM BST
the game is dying a slow death as it his,just another large nail in the coffin.
Report boxingthefox September 16, 2013 9:32 PM BST
Winktreble
Report Petrus Romanus September 16, 2013 9:32 PM BST
doh...bf censorship blows.... "every match is f1x3d
Report Angel Gabrial September 16, 2013 9:35 PM BST
From the WPBSA Statement

In one case the person collected the successful bet and placed the half of the winnings into Lee's wife's bank account.Cry

The bets were placed by three groups of people. The first were organised by his then sponsor who opened multiple betting accounts with various associates. These accounts were used to place the bets. The second group were coordinated by his then manager who placed almost identical bets. The third was an individual known to Lee who placed the same bets independently of the other two groups.

His sponsor, his manager and another ffs what thick coonts as if they really thought they could pull it off. Fat chance.
Report a bitofinterest September 16, 2013 9:36 PM BST
he reminded me of a young frank cannon
Report paddletoe September 16, 2013 9:52 PM BST
He has threw more than one match. One other in particular comes to mind. It was in the premier league a short time before he was suspended.
Report alun2005 September 16, 2013 10:21 PM BST
Small children will be laughing in the streets at Lee and The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight. I'm not surprised either. It's just about impossible getting caught at fixing sports events unless one is truly incompetent.

Surely there's a business opportunity here for horse-racing types (acknowledged masters of their craft) to set themselves up as Professional Fixing Advisers to second-rate sportsmen?
Report sofiakenny September 16, 2013 10:24 PM BST
poor thick fat northern chump gets busted...didnt have much goin for himSad
Report alun2005 September 16, 2013 10:28 PM BST
Was it, erm, greed that was responsible for all this?  Or just hunger?
Report boxingthefox September 16, 2013 10:29 PM BST
Grunger. Plain
Report carvoeiro September 16, 2013 10:51 PM BST
Saw him at a speaking event recently. Insisted he did nothing wrong.
Didn't sound very convincing to me.
Report sheppy123 September 16, 2013 10:52 PM BST
I've often lay in bed wondering how easy/difficult it'd be to fix a match and I've come to the conclusion it wouldn't be too easy. I know it sounds like I'm an after timer cos of Stephen Lee, but your reward for fixing the match would have to be completely untraceable which is almost impossible. And you couldn't trust anyone these days.
Report Angel Gabrial September 17, 2013 12:12 AM BST
He has threw more than one match. One other in particular comes to mind. It was in the premier league a short time before he was suspended.

http://www.worldsnooker.com/staticFiles/9b/be/0,,13165~179867,00.pdf

The WPBSA’s case was that in advance of seven matches at the Malta Cup 2008, the UK Championships
2008, the China Open 2009 and the World Championships 2009, Mr Lee gave inside information to
various associates, who then bet on the basis of it and also passed it to others in their group to do the
same. The matches are:
21.1 Match 1, Malta Cup 2008 (a round robin non ranking tournament), 4 February 2008, Lee v Neil
Robertson, Lee lost 1-5.
21.2 Match 2, Malta Cup 2008, 5 February 2008, Lee v Ken Doherty, Lee lost 2-4.
21.3 Match 3, Malta Cup 2008, 7 February 2008, Lee v Marco Fu, Lee lost 1-5.
21.4 Match 4 is no longer relied upon by the WPBSA as a fixed match. It was at the Malta Cup 2008,
Lee v Jo Swail, Lee won.
21.5 Match 5, UK Championships 2008 (a ranking knock out tournament), 13-14 December 2008, Lee
v Stephen Hendry, Lee won 9-7 but lost the first frame.
21.6 Match 6, UK Championships 2008, 15-16 December 2008, Lee v Mark King, Lee won 9-5 but lost
the first frame.
21.7 Match 7, China Open 2009 (a ranking knock out tournament), 1 April 2009, Lee v Mark Selby, Lee
lost 1-5.
21.8 Match 8, World Championships (a ranking knock out tournament), 22 April 2009, Lee v Ryan Day,
Lee lost 10-4
Report bongo September 17, 2013 12:26 AM BST
Imagine the conversations with his kids in 5-10 years time:
'Dad, can you fix it for me to have driving lessons'
'Dad, can you help arrange my wedding?'
He's going to spend the rest of his life cringing.
Report Angel Gabrial September 17, 2013 12:29 AM BST
Actually these are the matches he has been found guilty of. The previous list was what was investigated. -

Stephen Lee guilty of..

2008 Malta Cup: Conspired to lose to Ken Doherty and Marco Fu, while conspired to lose to Neil Robertson by a pre-determined score, with the match ending 5-1 to Robertson.

2008 UK Championship: Agreed to lose the first frame in matches against Stephen Hendry and Mark King.

2009 China Open: To lose to Mark Selby by a set score, Selby winning 5-1.

2009 World Championship: That Ryan Day would win by a pre-arranged score, Day winning 10-4.
Report HRH The Lager Khan September 17, 2013 12:49 AM BST
Absolutely incredible - Stephen Lee has a wife Shocked
Report AyersRock September 17, 2013 12:58 AM BST
cheating to win is one thing but cheating to lose?

Whose bank account was he trying to prop up?

He is already well paid himself.

Anyone know exactly how he was caught out ?
Report pumphol. September 17, 2013 12:59 AM BST
At least now he has more time to partake in MacDonalds secret Menu, the land sea & air burger is apparently his fav treat

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http://mcdonaldssecretmenu.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/land-air-and-sea-burger.jpg
Report Pokermonster September 17, 2013 12:59 AM BST
I wonder how much of a saver was put on 5-0 scorelines at the Chinese Open and Maltese Cup?
Report Angel Gabrial September 17, 2013 1:01 AM BST
Ayers

His sponsor was betting on the fixed matches.
His manager was betting on the fixed matches.
And a 3rd person was betting on the fixed matches.

And half the winnings ended up in Stephen Lee`s wifes bank account. He has been a Doh Peek Hunt alright.
Report Pokermonster September 17, 2013 1:02 AM BST
Stephen's not northern by the way, SK.
Report AyersRock September 17, 2013 1:04 AM BST
I didn't know that Angel, thanks, haven't really followed it, come to that I haven't really followed Snooker in a long time, in that case, I'm surprised he denied it given there was an electronic trail.
Report Angel Gabrial September 17, 2013 1:05 AM BST
Good point Pokermonster, you would have to sail close to the wind with that scoreline without a saver on 5-0
Report Angel Gabrial September 17, 2013 1:07 AM BST
They were up about 100k i believe on the bets.
Report Pokermonster September 17, 2013 1:33 AM BST
Losing the first frame is an old favourite of the fixers; it's been going on for donkey's years.  I fondly recall two professional players both trying to lose the opener during a Tolly Cobbold Classic in 1983.  How we all laughed.

This post will self-destruct in five minutes.
Report sofiakenny September 17, 2013 1:34 AM BST
ty pokermonster..just appears like one...thank god no bets were involved.i woulda lost a bundleExcited
Report paddletoe September 17, 2013 2:18 AM BST
I just about remember the match Silvino Franciasco fixed a good few years ago. They tried to place bets in my local bookmakers which is in Ireland but they were not taken. From what I remember the fix was for a 5-0 scoreline but the guy Fransciso was playing was so poor it stuck out a mile. Not sure how you would hope to get away with a fix in this day and age when there is so much traceability.
Report Mc Moonbeam September 17, 2013 7:52 AM BST
2008 UK Championship: Agreed to lose the first frame in matches against Stephen Hendry and Mark King.


How do you even get caught when it's so simple to lose one frame Mischief

Stephen Lee's a dopey **** at the best of times his trousers don't even fit him

How the hell is he even No.8 in the World God only knows !!
Report rob_dylan September 17, 2013 7:55 AM BST
The ugly face of snooker
Report Angel Gabrial September 17, 2013 8:28 AM BST
Didn`t Mark King have gambling problems in 2008? it must have been tempting for him to get involved but fair play to him if he turned it all down. By all accounts he was approached by shady characters.
Report Angel Gabrial September 17, 2013 8:33 AM BST
No, just checked again that King had controlled his demons well before 2008, it makes you wonder how many players are approached to get involved with skullduggery.
Report Mc Moonbeam September 17, 2013 8:54 AM BST
Yep fair play to Mark King if he's not involved .. he actually became a much better player too since that Angel
Report DONEMYLOT September 17, 2013 9:23 AM BST
Used to meet KIng in the local betting shop in Ilford - best betting shop ever. Fkng nutter back then but nice bloke. King also had a few home troubles with his Ma and that. Anyway...
Report DONEMYLOT September 17, 2013 9:30 AM BST
I'd be almost certain that when Davis and Hendry were in their pomp and used to go clear on telly matches, they were asked to ease up a bit as they would finish too early. Not bent then but just making it appear more competitive.
Report Biscuit1979 September 17, 2013 9:33 AM BST
One thing that stands out here is:

"It was judged that bets were placed on Lee’s matches by three groups of people: a then sponsor, his former manager and another associate. The total bets placed were in excess of £11,000, leading to winnings of £97,000"

Now surely if he'd tried to actually win the matches in question he'd have won more than 97k?
Report Biscuit1979 September 17, 2013 9:34 AM BST
and he'd certainly win more than 97k during the time he's about to be banned for
Report DONEMYLOT September 17, 2013 9:36 AM BST
Im not sure they are his bets, he was on a %, so its even less
Report Angel Gabrial September 17, 2013 9:42 AM BST
Perhaps ther is more that they got away with.

He had got to the point where he would struggle to beat anyone and the betting was guaranteed turnover. The Malt Cup is shyte money and he was unlikely to win the other matches as he was a sweaty bottler.
Report DONEMYLOT September 17, 2013 9:49 AM BST
Do watch the McManus v Drago match a few months ago. Wasn't bent I don't think but very very funny
Report DONEMYLOT September 17, 2013 9:49 AM BST
Do watch the McManus v Drago match a few months ago. Wasn't bent I don't think but very very funny
Report Mc Moonbeam September 17, 2013 9:53 AM BST
Now surely if he'd tried to actually win the matches in question he'd have won more than 97k?

Biscuit1979

and he'd certainly win more than 97k during the time he's about to be banned for


This is Stephen 'Burger King' Lee we're talking about hereConfused
Report Biscuit1979 September 17, 2013 9:58 AM BST
Well i can't claim to follow snooker that keenly but he was a top 16 player wasn't he and his wiki page says he's made over £2m in prize money so quite why he needed to do this to make himself a comparatively tiny sum is a bit odd.
Report Mc Moonbeam September 17, 2013 10:02 AM BST
Yep true i never understand them .. Higgins shoulda been STRUNG UP but Stephen Lee's no worldbeater although ranked No.8 in the World i haven't got a Clue How !

There aren't that many big tournaments in a snooker season though & when you think the World Championship only pays 250k to the winner it's bits & bobs a player like him makes unless he gets lucky
Report CLYDEBANK29 September 17, 2013 10:03 AM BST
Next stop Celebrity Fit Club or similar
Report Angel Gabrial September 17, 2013 3:06 PM BST
Ronnie has sais there are more cheats.

Hearn has told Ronnie to cough up the names or he will face disrepute chargesLaugh

Barry Hearn`s son Eddie promoted the Burn`s fight the other week, who is looking into that. As bent as bent can be the whole lot of them.
Report Angel Gabrial September 17, 2013 3:07 PM BST
Next stop Celebrity Fit Club or similar

Or Celebrity Fix Club
Report i_agree_with_nick September 17, 2013 6:52 PM BST
I read the Ronnie thing. I think he put it it out on Twitter.

I reckon it's rife. Something that would help imo would be to stop betting on things like next frame, first throw-in (football) and the like
Report pumphol. September 17, 2013 6:56 PM BST
Yes they will give Ronnie a six Month ban for that, free to play from April though Silly
Report Heeeere's Johnny September 17, 2013 7:01 PM BST
it's bits & bobs a player like him makes unless he gets lucky

He's made £100k a year for over 20 years and that's excluding sponsorship deals.  I'll take some of those bits & bobs if there are any going spare Grin
Report Angel Gabrial September 17, 2013 7:13 PM BST
£100k with a tax deduction Johnny.

Lee is obviously a lazy coont and it seems he wanted more cream on his cake.
Report Heeeere's Johnny September 17, 2013 7:37 PM BST
I just never thought that greed would be his downfall.  He really didn't seem the type Crazy
Report BARROWBOY September 17, 2013 7:52 PM BST
his mum rustie was no better.
Report boxingthefox September 17, 2013 7:58 PM BST
"Next stop Celebrity Fit Club or similar Or Celebrity Fix Club"

LaughLaughLaugh
Report sheppy123 September 18, 2013 10:22 AM BST
I can't see Ronnie ever getting a ban. He's one of the most exciting people in the game and I think that'll affect people's decisions???

I'd like to see Ding get banned for being such a miserable bastard!
Report i_agree_with_nick September 18, 2013 11:27 AM BST
He's been asked to name names or apologise
Report Angel Gabrial September 18, 2013 11:32 AM BST
An opology will not cut it Nick.

Hearn wants names. There are 3 outcomes here.

1. Ronnie gives names. ( massive waves in the world of snooker )
2. Ronnie refuses - he will be banned.
3. He admits he is not sure who it is but someone said it was but he has forgotten who that person was.Grin
Report Biscuit1979 September 18, 2013 11:33 AM BST
Ronnie O'Sullivan ‏@ronnieo147 17h
I suppose I could always go back to workin on the farm if world snooker wanna ban me
Report BARROWBOY September 18, 2013 11:42 AM BST
Ronnies a superb snooker player but lets face it a bit of a ****.Says he wants to keep a low profile but has to make comments like this to grab attention.imo he will have no more idea than anyone else who has been at it,but now hes been told to name names will be clueless.
Report sheppy123 September 18, 2013 12:12 PM BST
I don't know about you guys but I like characters. If they create controversy that's great with me! Mark Allen is currently my favourite player cos he speaks his mind and has actually got something about him, unlike a lot of other dull players.

I want players to be aware that the audience has payed to see them so give them some kinda entertainment. Smile ffs at least!!!

If more players were like Ronnie, I think the sport would be more popular???
Report DONEMYLOT September 18, 2013 12:40 PM BST
Hearn is upset cos the truth is out
Report Angel Gabrial September 18, 2013 2:31 PM BST
I am sure the Hearn boxing camp is cleanWink
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