Petrus Romanus 16 Sep 13 21:19 Joined: 19 Mar 02 | Topic/replies: 6,735 | Blogger: Petrus Romanus's blog Should receive a life ban at the very minimum...no room for cheating in any sport.
Obviously I don't include the likes of WWE in the above...it isn't a sport and every match is ****.
Petrus Romanus16 Sep 13 21:19Joined:19 Mar 02| Topic/replies: 6,735 | Blogger: Petrus Romanus's blogShould receive a life ban at the very minimum...no room for cheating in any sport.Obviously I don't include the likes of WWE in the above...it isn't a
Fixing any match is disgraceful, but to throw a match in the world championship that you have a good chance of winning is completely beyond the pale.
If he values a few quid higher than the title of World Snooker Champion, then he has no place in the sport anyway.
Fixing any match is disgraceful, but to throw a match in the world championship that you have a good chance of winning is completely beyond the pale.If he values a few quid higher than the title of World Snooker Champion, then he has no place in the
In one case the person collected the successful bet and placed the half of the winnings into Lee's wife's bank account.
The bets were placed by three groups of people. The first were organised by his then sponsor who opened multiple betting accounts with various associates. These accounts were used to place the bets. The second group were coordinated by his then manager who placed almost identical bets. The third was an individual known to Lee who placed the same bets independently of the other two groups.
His sponsor, his manager and another ffs what thick coonts as if they really thought they could pull it off. Fat chance.
From the WPBSA Statement In one case the person collected the successful bet and placed the half of the winnings into Lee's wife's bank account.The bets were placed by three groups of people. The first were organised by his then sponsor who opened mu
Small children will be laughing in the streets at Lee and The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight. I'm not surprised either. It's just about impossible getting caught at fixing sports events unless one is truly incompetent.
Surely there's a business opportunity here for horse-racing types (acknowledged masters of their craft) to set themselves up as Professional Fixing Advisers to second-rate sportsmen?
Small children will be laughing in the streets at Lee and The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight. I'm not surprised either. It's just about impossible getting caught at fixing sports events unless one is truly incompetent. Surely there's a business op
I've often lay in bed wondering how easy/difficult it'd be to fix a match and I've come to the conclusion it wouldn't be too easy. I know it sounds like I'm an after timer cos of Stephen Lee, but your reward for fixing the match would have to be completely untraceable which is almost impossible. And you couldn't trust anyone these days.
I've often lay in bed wondering how easy/difficult it'd be to fix a match and I've come to the conclusion it wouldn't be too easy. I know it sounds like I'm an after timer cos of Stephen Lee, but your reward for fixing the match would have to be comp
The WPBSA’s case was that in advance of seven matches at the Malta Cup 2008, the UK Championships 2008, the China Open 2009 and the World Championships 2009, Mr Lee gave inside information to various associates, who then bet on the basis of it and also passed it to others in their group to do the same. The matches are: 21.1 Match 1, Malta Cup 2008 (a round robin non ranking tournament), 4 February 2008, Lee v Neil Robertson, Lee lost 1-5. 21.2 Match 2, Malta Cup 2008, 5 February 2008, Lee v Ken Doherty, Lee lost 2-4. 21.3 Match 3, Malta Cup 2008, 7 February 2008, Lee v Marco Fu, Lee lost 1-5. 21.4 Match 4 is no longer relied upon by the WPBSA as a fixed match. It was at the Malta Cup 2008, Lee v Jo Swail, Lee won. 21.5 Match 5, UK Championships 2008 (a ranking knock out tournament), 13-14 December 2008, Lee v Stephen Hendry, Lee won 9-7 but lost the first frame. 21.6 Match 6, UK Championships 2008, 15-16 December 2008, Lee v Mark King, Lee won 9-5 but lost the first frame. 21.7 Match 7, China Open 2009 (a ranking knock out tournament), 1 April 2009, Lee v Mark Selby, Lee lost 1-5. 21.8 Match 8, World Championships (a ranking knock out tournament), 22 April 2009, Lee v Ryan Day, Lee lost 10-4
He has threw more than one match. One other in particular comes to mind. It was in the premier league a short time before he was suspended.http://www.worldsnooker.com/staticFiles/9b/be/0,,13165~179867,00.pdfThe WPBSA’s case was that in advance of s
Imagine the conversations with his kids in 5-10 years time: 'Dad, can you fix it for me to have driving lessons' 'Dad, can you help arrange my wedding?' He's going to spend the rest of his life cringing.
Imagine the conversations with his kids in 5-10 years time:'Dad, can you fix it for me to have driving lessons''Dad, can you help arrange my wedding?'He's going to spend the rest of his life cringing.
Actually these are the matches he has been found guilty of. The previous list was what was investigated. -
Stephen Lee guilty of..
2008 Malta Cup: Conspired to lose to Ken Doherty and Marco Fu, while conspired to lose to Neil Robertson by a pre-determined score, with the match ending 5-1 to Robertson.
2008 UK Championship: Agreed to lose the first frame in matches against Stephen Hendry and Mark King.
2009 China Open: To lose to Mark Selby by a set score, Selby winning 5-1.
2009 World Championship: That Ryan Day would win by a pre-arranged score, Day winning 10-4.
Actually these are the matches he has been found guilty of. The previous list was what was investigated. -Stephen Lee guilty of..2008 Malta Cup: Conspired to lose to Ken Doherty and Marco Fu, while conspired to lose to Neil Robertson by a pre-determi
cheating to win is one thing but cheating to lose?
Whose bank account was he trying to prop up?
He is already well paid himself.
Anyone know exactly how he was caught out ?
cheating to win is one thing but cheating to lose?Whose bank account was he trying to prop up?He is already well paid himself.Anyone know exactly how he was caught out ?
At least now he has more time to partake in MacDonalds secret Menu, the land sea & air burger is apparently his fav treat.http://mcdonaldssecretmenu.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/land-air-and-sea-burger.jpg
His sponsor was betting on the fixed matches. His manager was betting on the fixed matches. And a 3rd person was betting on the fixed matches.
And half the winnings ended up in Stephen Lee`s wifes bank account. He has been a Doh Peek Hunt alright.
AyersHis sponsor was betting on the fixed matches.His manager was betting on the fixed matches.And a 3rd person was betting on the fixed matches.And half the winnings ended up in Stephen Lee`s wifes bank account. He has been a Doh Peek Hunt alright.
I didn't know that Angel, thanks, haven't really followed it, come to that I haven't really followed Snooker in a long time, in that case, I'm surprised he denied it given there was an electronic trail.
I didn't know that Angel, thanks, haven't really followed it, come to that I haven't really followed Snooker in a long time, in that case, I'm surprised he denied it given there was an electronic trail.
Losing the first frame is an old favourite of the fixers; it's been going on for donkey's years. I fondly recall two professional players both trying to lose the opener during a Tolly Cobbold Classic in 1983. How we all laughed.
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Losing the first frame is an old favourite of the fixers; it's been going on for donkey's years. I fondly recall two professional players both trying to lose the opener during a Tolly Cobbold Classic in 1983. How we all laughed.This post will self-
I just about remember the match Silvino Franciasco fixed a good few years ago. They tried to place bets in my local bookmakers which is in Ireland but they were not taken. From what I remember the fix was for a 5-0 scoreline but the guy Fransciso was playing was so poor it stuck out a mile. Not sure how you would hope to get away with a fix in this day and age when there is so much traceability.
I just about remember the match Silvino Franciasco fixed a good few years ago. They tried to place bets in my local bookmakers which is in Ireland but they were not taken. From what I remember the fix was for a 5-0 scoreline but the guy Fransciso was
2008 UK Championship: Agreed to lose the first frame in matches against Stephen Hendry and Mark King.
How do you even get caught when it's so simple to lose one frame
Stephen Lee's a dopey **** at the best of times his trousers don't even fit him
How the hell is he even No.8 in the World God only knows !!
2008 UK Championship: Agreed to lose the first frame in matches against Stephen Hendry and Mark King.How do you even get caught when it's so simple to lose one frame Stephen Lee's a dopey **** at the best of times his trousers don't even fit himHow t
Didn`t Mark King have gambling problems in 2008? it must have been tempting for him to get involved but fair play to him if he turned it all down. By all accounts he was approached by shady characters.
Didn`t Mark King have gambling problems in 2008? it must have been tempting for him to get involved but fair play to him if he turned it all down. By all accounts he was approached by shady characters.
No, just checked again that King had controlled his demons well before 2008, it makes you wonder how many players are approached to get involved with skullduggery.
No, just checked again that King had controlled his demons well before 2008, it makes you wonder how many players are approached to get involved with skullduggery.
Used to meet KIng in the local betting shop in Ilford - best betting shop ever. Fkng nutter back then but nice bloke. King also had a few home troubles with his Ma and that. Anyway...
Used to meet KIng in the local betting shop in Ilford - best betting shop ever. Fkng nutter back then but nice bloke. King also had a few home troubles with his Ma and that. Anyway...
I'd be almost certain that when Davis and Hendry were in their pomp and used to go clear on telly matches, they were asked to ease up a bit as they would finish too early. Not bent then but just making it appear more competitive.
I'd be almost certain that when Davis and Hendry were in their pomp and used to go clear on telly matches, they were asked to ease up a bit as they would finish too early. Not bent then but just making it appear more competitive.
"It was judged that bets were placed on Lee’s matches by three groups of people: a then sponsor, his former manager and another associate. The total bets placed were in excess of £11,000, leading to winnings of £97,000"
Now surely if he'd tried to actually win the matches in question he'd have won more than 97k?
One thing that stands out here is:"It was judged that bets were placed on Lee’s matches by three groups of people: a then sponsor, his former manager and another associate. The total bets placed were in excess of £11,000, leading to winnings of £
He had got to the point where he would struggle to beat anyone and the betting was guaranteed turnover. The Malt Cup is shyte money and he was unlikely to win the other matches as he was a sweaty bottler.
Perhaps ther is more that they got away with.He had got to the point where he would struggle to beat anyone and the betting was guaranteed turnover. The Malt Cup is shyte money and he was unlikely to win the other matches as he was a sweaty bottler.
Now surely if he'd tried to actually win the matches in question he'd have won more than 97k?
Biscuit1979
and he'd certainly win more than 97k during the time he's about to be banned for
This is Stephen 'Burger King' Lee we're talking about here
Now surely if he'd tried to actually win the matches in question he'd have won more than 97k?Biscuit1979and he'd certainly win more than 97k during the time he's about to be banned forThis is Stephen 'Burger King' Lee we're talking about here
Well i can't claim to follow snooker that keenly but he was a top 16 player wasn't he and his wiki page says he's made over £2m in prize money so quite why he needed to do this to make himself a comparatively tiny sum is a bit odd.
Well i can't claim to follow snooker that keenly but he was a top 16 player wasn't he and his wiki page says he's made over £2m in prize money so quite why he needed to do this to make himself a comparatively tiny sum is a bit odd.
Yep true i never understand them .. Higgins shoulda been STRUNG UP but Stephen Lee's no worldbeater although ranked No.8 in the World i haven't got a Clue How !
There aren't that many big tournaments in a snooker season though & when you think the World Championship only pays 250k to the winner it's bits & bobs a player like him makes unless he gets lucky
Yep true i never understand them .. Higgins shoulda been STRUNG UP but Stephen Lee's no worldbeater although ranked No.8 in the World i haven't got a Clue How !There aren't that many big tournaments in a snooker season though & when you think the Wor
Hearn has told Ronnie to cough up the names or he will face disrepute charges
Barry Hearn`s son Eddie promoted the Burn`s fight the other week, who is looking into that. As bent as bent can be the whole lot of them.
Ronnie has sais there are more cheats.Hearn has told Ronnie to cough up the names or he will face disrepute chargesBarry Hearn`s son Eddie promoted the Burn`s fight the other week, who is looking into that. As bent as bent can be the whole lot of the
I read the Ronnie thing. I think he put it it out on Twitter.
I reckon it's rife. Something that would help imo would be to stop betting on things like next frame, first throw-in (football) and the like
I read the Ronnie thing. I think he put it it out on Twitter.I reckon it's rife. Something that would help imo would be to stop betting on things like next frame, first throw-in (football) and the like
it's bits & bobs a player like him makes unless he gets lucky
He's made £100k a year for over 20 years and that's excluding sponsorship deals. I'll take some of those bits & bobs if there are any going spare
it's bits & bobs a player like him makes unless he gets lucky He's made £100k a year for over 20 years and that's excluding sponsorship deals. I'll take some of those bits & bobs if there are any going spare
I can't see Ronnie ever getting a ban. He's one of the most exciting people in the game and I think that'll affect people's decisions???
I'd like to see Ding get banned for being such a miserable bastard!
I can't see Ronnie ever getting a ban. He's one of the most exciting people in the game and I think that'll affect people's decisions???I'd like to see Ding get banned for being such a miserable bastard!
1. Ronnie gives names. ( massive waves in the world of snooker ) 2. Ronnie refuses - he will be banned. 3. He admits he is not sure who it is but someone said it was but he has forgotten who that person was.
An opology will not cut it Nick.Hearn wants names. There are 3 outcomes here.1. Ronnie gives names. ( massive waves in the world of snooker )2. Ronnie refuses - he will be banned.3. He admits he is not sure who it is but someone said it was but he ha
Ronnies a superb snooker player but lets face it a bit of a ****.Says he wants to keep a low profile but has to make comments like this to grab attention.imo he will have no more idea than anyone else who has been at it,but now hes been told to name names will be clueless.
Ronnies a superb snooker player but lets face it a bit of a ****.Says he wants to keep a low profile but has to make comments like this to grab attention.imo he will have no more idea than anyone else who has been at it,but now hes been told to name
I don't know about you guys but I like characters. If they create controversy that's great with me! Mark Allen is currently my favourite player cos he speaks his mind and has actually got something about him, unlike a lot of other dull players.
I want players to be aware that the audience has payed to see them so give them some kinda entertainment. Smile ffs at least!!!
If more players were like Ronnie, I think the sport would be more popular???
I don't know about you guys but I like characters. If they create controversy that's great with me! Mark Allen is currently my favourite player cos he speaks his mind and has actually got something about him, unlike a lot of other dull players.I want