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25 Aug 13
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There use to be a program on one the of satellite channels about this...
I remember one were a guy managed to sneek his 5 dollar chip to a 25 dollar chip, AFTER a winning roulette spin.
The guy raked in about $250,000
I remember one were a guy managed to sneek his 5 dollar chip to a 25 dollar chip, AFTER a winning roulette spin.
The guy raked in about $250,000
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The hole in one scam in the golf. Two guys who were just ahead of the game. Sheer genius
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dobbo
unfortunatly Paul Simons has passed away since |
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Two guys who were just ahead of the game. Sheer genius
So therefore not a scam, as such |
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the bookies tried to scam them by not paying up.
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yes, the hole in one gang is a clear winner.
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''Like many of the best plots, the Trodmore Hunt was elegant in its simplicity. Someone calling himself G Martin, of St Ives in Cornwall, wrote to The Sportsman newspaper, which in those days was the principal rival to The Sporting Life. He enclosed a list of runners and riders for the Trodmore Hunt race meeting, to be held on 1 August, a Bank Holiday.
In those days, there was no official fixture list, and journalists were happy to accept what help they could from eager members of the public in compiling their racecards, not least on busy Bank Holidays. Martin had chosen his date carefully, and was effectively gambling on the ignorance and laziness of The Sportsman's journalists. It was a safe bet. The card duly appeared without anyone bothering to check whether Trodmore exists (it doesn't). The following day, Martin sent in a list of the winners and their starting prices - including, as it happens, several horses which had been heavily backed with the illegal street bookies of the time - and these too were published. Again, the plotters had been clever, and the "results" were not too greedy - four winning favourites and nothing at odds of more than 5-1. This was apparently enough for several bookmakers, who paid out without a second thought. It was all too easy. But the one thing the conspirators could not allow for was human error. The Sporting Life, annoyed that it had somehow missed the original card, cribbed the results from The Sportsman, but somewhere in the typesetting process, a printer's hand slipped and the price of one winner became 5-2 rather than 5-1. Now, many bookmakers were confused, and started to investigate Trodmore a little more closely. At which point, of course, the truth emerged, and the pay-outs stopped. Yet the true identity of G Martin and his fellow confidence tricksters remains a mystery, and the fact that it took a printing error to expose them can only make you wonder if - or even how often - an identical plan might previously have succeeded.'' |
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Agree with Mr B . 'Scam' surely requires cheating.
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The Flockton Grey case qualifies.
.http://theapprenticejockey.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/flockton-grey.html |
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Rochester dogs was a good un as was Gay Future but that failed so perhaps not so good
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Yellow Sam
The mastermind was Barney Curley, professional gambler by trade. His accomplices were trainer Liam Brennan, and Barney’s best mate Benny O’Hanlon. The weapon of choice was a horse by the name of Yellow Sam. Curley ran Sam in a series of races in unfavourable conditions to increase his odds and allow him to have a lighter handicap than usual in at least one race. In the meantime, Brennan trained the horse specifically for an obscure race at the Bellewstown summer festival. On the day of the race, Curley stationed dozens of his friends in bookies across Ireland, each armed with between £50 and £300, and sealed instructions to be opened upon receiving a call. He called a half-dozen of them before the race started and asked each to contact a dozen more. Meanwhile, at the track, Curley’s friend O’Hanlon took over the only telephone at the race-track for the day, claiming he was desperately trying to contact his dying aunt. This was 1975 – there was no other way for the on-course bookies (who were to determine the starting price of each horse) to be alerted by the betting shops and the odds remained at 20/1. In all, O’Hanlon invested £15,000 – his life savings – in the scheme. When Yellow Sam won, he made of profit of £300,000 (or £1.5m in today’s money). http://www.joe.ie/sports/betting/five-great-betting-coups/ |
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tHE JOCKEY KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE PLANNED COI
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The jockey knew nothing about the planned coup, if I remember correctly.
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Was told by a punter about 30 years ago about a horse that was run at Devon and Exeter (apparently a ringer/flapper) from memory it bolted up at 14/1, and 12 hours later was dead and buried.
Think he was Irish the bloke not the horse. Does it stop me from gambling NO  |
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ask the master
Cubone his stories are legendary (seriously). Prob knows more about betting scams than the whole forum combined |
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so they killed the horse! nice story!
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ffs
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Sorry Kenny missed the bit where it said happy ending
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Murphy`s Stroke is a good film about the Gay Future coup. I have it on dvd.
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In the good old days, I used to bet winners in Ireland on Bank Holidays seconds after they had won. Bookies didn`t get the results until next day in the Sporting Life.
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The Horse race meeting that never was
Trodmore Racecourse was the name of a fictitious racecourse, supposedly in Cornwall. On August 1, 1898, it was the subject of a punting scam. It is said that a man named Mr. Martin contacted the offices of a leading newspaper, The Sportsman, to inform them of a horse racing meeting he was holding the following day in the village of Trodmore. They were so impressed with the quality of the racecard that they promised to publish the runners, riders and results. Punters placed bets with several bookmakers, and collected as usual as results came through. Everything seemed to be going to plan until another leading newspaper, The Sporting Life, noticed that they had not been informed. They didn't want to be left out, so they copied the results 24 hours later. However, there was a slight, but important, difference in the sets of results. One winning horse was given at 5-1 in the Sportsman, but at only 5-2 in the Sporting Life. This detail needed to be checked so they tried to contact the racecourse. When they couldn't be contacted, a fraud investigation got under way. Trodmore was nowhere to be found on any map of Cornwall. Nobody was ever caught for the scam and it remains a mystery to this day. |
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Nobody was ever caught for the scam and it remains a mystery to this day.
Not a mystery to anyone who's read this fred imo. |
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lol
Had a quick read through & missed it  There was a thread like this a couple of years back & I posted it up then |
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Most of the these scams mentioned here was in a program called.....
The world´s greatest betting scams It was on Challenge TV, does any one here remember it? |
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All amateurs compared to Brian LeBlanc. More of a manipulator than a scammer though.
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I take it the moneysavingexperts First goalscorer experts don't belong on this thread?
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No, but they've got "worst betting scam ever" pretty much nailed until time ends.
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Harry to Pompey
End of Fred |
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Good shout, thebetterbettor.
That was an almighty p***-take from start to finish. |
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The Dagenham Dogs scam should be in with a chance.
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jed.davison
26 Aug 13 11:53 All amateurs compared to Brian LeBlanc. More of a manipulator than a scammer though. I've met Brian many times jed, he certainly is an interesting character! Lots about his exploits on google. |
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We have had a few discussions about the ante-post market slippy. Arguments he won, even though I was right.
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Pencilman is a nobody.
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Yeah, slow counters far more heroic! |
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I was at the Dagenham dog coup, I had just turned 16, we were doing our own "thing" involving Irish bookies (since 1960)It had a while longer to run before it finished, Went to most Horse/dog tracks in the country doing this which netted the "gang" thousands in the time it ran, as the junior member I did not get anything like a fair share.
 .The mightymac is partly correct the Irish bookies did not generally get the results until 15-20 minutes late, especially in the country villages, there was no commentary as the law prohibited "loitering" so you placed your bet and left. This finished with both changes in the law and "timed bets". |
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I like the one that took place in the 1970's ,I think.Some guys rented a room above a bookies ,interrupted the dog commentary,recorded it on a reel to reel,and played it back into the bookies a couple of minutes after the result was known.In that couple of minutes their colleagues placed bets in the shop on the winners.They were found out when a punter walked in from another shop nearby, heard the commentary on a race starting,and told the bookie "we've just had the result in the shop up the road".
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Artie,
I believe they were only found out when someone reported cables from the flat were trailing all over the front of the shop. Good scam though . |
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The 'Next Portsmouth Manager' market (over 16 million matched) would definitely be somewhere near the top.
Highlights included the very helpful public statements that the move wouldn't be taking place, while big money simultaneously waited to be layed (it was). The most execrable moment came when the infamous 'Cardboard Ramp' was staged for the benefit of Sky Sports 'News' (i.e. 24/7/365 PR Nonsense) cameras, a short while after which the markets on here went completely bonkers. 1.04 out to Evens and back into 1.04 in the space of 2 minutes. |
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In 1898, Mr G. Martin of St Ives, Cornwall wrote a letter to The Sportsman (the equivalent of today’s Racing Post) detailing a race meeting named Trodmore Hunt which was due to be held on Bank Holiday August 1st.
Mr Martin supplied a full list of races, runners and riders for the days’ meeting. This was fairly common practice during this time. Journalists relied on helpful members of the public to point them the correct way and bookmakers relied on the journalists to publish the race meetings and their results. However Mr Martin was not being as generous as it first appeared. Trodmore Hunt did not exist. It had never existed. The horses did not exist. The riders did not exist. Mr Martin purposely picked the Bank Holiday safe in the knowledge that idol journalists would consider themselves too busy to check. Subsequently, Mr Martin and his team of scallywags travelled around London placing bets on some of the runners at Trodmore Hunt. It had been published in the The Sportsman, bookies had no reason not to take bets on the meeting. They had no reason to think that the meeting had been made up. Mr Martin then wrote another letter to The Sportsman detailing the results of the meeting. As luck would have it he had done rather well. He was clever enough to not be too greedy. Four of the favourites on the Trodmore Hunt card had won. Their prices were no bigger than 5/1. The meeting had been published in The Sportsman. The results had been published in The Sportsman, bookies took the bets and the bookies began paying out. Rival newspaper, The Sportinglife, was extremely annoyed that it had let Trodmore Hunt slip under its radar. They stole the results from The Sportsman and published them themselves, only the Sportinglife proceeded to publish an error in the results by mistake. One winner that was listed as 5/1 in The Sportsman was printed as being 5/2 in The Sporting Life. Bookies were at odds at what to do and whose price to believe and they began questioning their papers. Of course when they all looked a little closer they discovered that Trodmore Hunt had never existed. The payouts stopped, but they had paid out an awful lot already! |