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By:
Omaruss
When: 23 Aug 13 21:07
thing that really bugs me is that ive had to work all my life to get to where i am (im 43), my property is probably worth circa £200,000. These fks just get given something they would never be able to afford, they even went to Disneyland a couple of months ago, I can barely afford to drive to work.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 23 Aug 13 21:46
housing associations can kill property prices in days,they don't give a monkeys  who's in them
By:
Steve Voltage
When: 23 Aug 13 21:57
Imagine saving like mad in your early twenties. Sacrificing many of the fun and exciting things in life so that you have a £20,000 deposit for mortgage, paying solicitors fees, stamp duty and feck knows what else, only to find that your 1st time buy has neighbours who are housing association type.

what a fecking mare Cry
By:
Omaruss
When: 23 Aug 13 22:00
It's 1 of the many reasons this country is fooked Steve

the middle class white man is a dying breed
By:
Steve Voltage
When: 23 Aug 13 22:04
First time buyer: Man i had to scrimp and save to get this place, plenty of overtime worked too i can tell ya.

Neighbour: Feck that sh1t i just looked at the swap board and thought i will try this place for 12 months. why not it didn't cost me a bean.

Cry
By:
sideshowbob
When: 23 Aug 13 22:52
from what youve said i doubt they are doing anything wrong. within reason, people are allowed to do what they want in their own home. and nothing youve said sounds unreasonable. i know its difficult, i had a situation where i could never sleep cos of the neighbours walking across a wooden floor. clomp clomp clomp. it drove me crazy. the problem you have is piss poor soundproofing. you got lucky that the people in before were quiet.
By:
sideshowbob
When: 23 Aug 13 22:58
i would add that i listen to heavy metal, punk, all kinds of loud music. generally i use my headphones so not to piss people off, but the odd time i put music on without them. if a neighbour put their music/tv on really loud or banged on the walls etc to make a point, id put mine on even louder to **** them off. if they talked to me like im a human being, i would apologise and try to reach a compromise. being a bellend is highly unlikely to achieve a positive response.
By:
Omaruss
When: 24 Aug 13 00:49
I totally agree with your people being allowed to do what they want in their own home to a point.

As for apologising and trying to reach a compromise

A. I have nothing to apologise for
B. The relationship between me and him has got to a stage where he tries to intimidate me, i'm wondering if I need to be "tooled up" when I go outside now.

It's very much a case of they go or I go now, but as has been said already, that costs me money , it doesn't cost them.
By:
Omaruss
When: 24 Aug 13 00:53
I may have misunderstood your apology reference tbf
By:
sideshowbob
When: 24 Aug 13 01:03
yeah i think you have.

you shouldnt feel intimidated. thats not good. i honestly think your main problem is the poor soundproofing. you cant expect everybody who moves in to be little old ladies who never do anything. i was in a flat that was the same, you could hear them walking, shagging, coughing, running the tap, everything. it was made worse cos they took the carpet up and put down a wooden floor.

even if they move out you could easily have a similar situation again. moving out is probably your best option. though how you find somewhere with better sound proofing i dont know. im looking to move again soon and its something that really concerns me. i know how bad it gets when you cant sleep for noise.
By:
themightymac
When: 24 Aug 13 01:03
I sympathise with your situation mate. Nothing worse than anti social neighbours when all you want is some peace and quiet in life.
By:
no moves
When: 24 Aug 13 01:32
your annoyed by their coughing and the other neighbours dont seem to find much to get involved about your not being a tiny bit sensitive?


You believe it will be impossible to move but the other neighbours seem unfazed by them so why would a potential buyer?
By:
no moves
When: 24 Aug 13 01:49
Take legal action to quiten them? and you know it probably wont work long term, and if you have to sell subsequently  to alleviate the problem, you may be legaly bound to tell the potential buyer you've took the quite exceptional route of going to court because things were so dire.   I think they'd of guessed going to court hadn't worked because your in the process of selling up. If your the potential buyer in that position would you buy the house?
By:
themightymac
When: 24 Aug 13 01:57
You should try living around here. At night, I get my entertainment watching the world pass by from my garden. How could I explain it better Confused Sort of live version of "SHAMELESS" Whoops
By:
sideshowbob
When: 24 Aug 13 02:46
you should sell tickets
By:
polybot
When: 24 Aug 13 05:45
rent your place out to a large extended somalian family, and go on a holiday.
By:
northernlad5
When: 24 Aug 13 08:32
".... my solutions being to threaten legal action against the landlord for devaluing my property!"

LaughLaughLaugh

See how far that gets in court, and no wonder the guy wants to batter you!

Problem seems to be generational.
Young people who see the place as home, like music, and watch BBC News 24 at 4am (someone has to watch it). And an old codger who see's the property as nothing more that his investment, but is too tight to have the walls sound insulated.
By:
northernlad5
When: 24 Aug 13 08:36
"They originate from one of the lower class areas of my city (Edinburgh)!"

Compelling evidence in court!

Laugh
By:
lfc1971
When: 24 Aug 13 09:03
I would be very cautious of buying property, and especially a flat, in Britain because there is a very good

chance of getting major stress from neighbours. It is best to have a quick escape route from...well nearly

everyone actually!
By:
xmoneyx
When: 24 Aug 13 10:06
"They originate from one of the lower class areas of my city (Edinburgh)!"

Compelling evidence in court!



just roll the film trainspotting Excited
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 24 Aug 13 10:18
Terrible situation a 200k property too as well, ouch. The DSS lot are getting everywhere nowadays no area is safe. It's one of the reasons I'm hesitant to buy. They can bring an area down very quickly. I would come down hard on the agent, middle-man and the landlady if you can get hold of her be relentless until the problem dominates their lives as well as yours. Things will happen.
By:
Omaruss
When: 24 Aug 13 13:40
northernlad

Firstly, wall insulation is designed to trap heat not sound, your ignorant brain was probably trying to think of the word deafening which sits it the gap between their ceiling and my floorboards, Im afraid it is impossible to insert anything into solid brick.

You sound like the sort who probably wants to move in with them tbh

and I don't think courts troll the betfair forum just to see if i've said anything "controversial"
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 24 Aug 13 13:51
More of this will happen in the too near future, You can blame the BEDROOM TAX for this.
By:
Omaruss
When: 24 Aug 13 13:58
here's what your view could look like soon

By:
northernlad5
When: 24 Aug 13 14:01
Omawhatever,

Sound insulation, you know? Like what Heavy Metal bands use in their recording studio's.
When I was a kid me & my mates (we were a punk band)sound insulated the garage by gluing the bottom of hundreds of eggs boxes to the walls - very effective!.

Besides you said in your original post the noise wasn't "ridiculous", now you say it's "deafening". Make up your mind because the court will probably see through your contradictions - unreliable witness!
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 24 Aug 13 14:03
Ask them does that telly work
By:
northernlad5
When: 24 Aug 13 14:04
Kids - What are they like?
By:
Omaruss
When: 24 Aug 13 14:05
"Deafening" is the name given to material placed inbetween their ceiling and my floorboards u ignoramus, i did not say their noise was deafening.

hundreds of egg boxes glued to my walls, that will look really attractive, should increase my property value 10 fold that idea. Thanks for the great advice.
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 24 Aug 13 14:06
Tell them to get a nice chiminea to burn all that wood and they can have a few barbecues out in the garden til 3am in the morning with a few friends
By:
Omaruss
When: 24 Aug 13 14:10
EMR

i believe the area where that would lies is actually classed as my secondary fire exit

more likely to be the cause of a fire
By:
Omaruss
When: 24 Aug 13 14:11
would = wood ......d'oh
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 24 Aug 13 14:12
count yourself lucky that they have trimmed the shrubs
By:
Omaruss
When: 24 Aug 13 14:16
It's been better than the photos show and its been worse, thats just what its like atm.

I wish I had a photo of what it was like before they moved in, then you would really see the difference.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 24 Aug 13 14:17
northernlad5 Make sure they're free range eggboxes. Laugh.

I was involved in the sound Insulation at the Hilton hotel Heathrow, (then the Sterling)the jumbo jets revved up just a few hundred meters away behind Buffalo fencing which was useless, they wanted 80 decibels rating, but relented when we did a mock up demonstrating that the room would just be an echo chamber, settled for 68. the cost is out of the question for house owners, and besides you still have the problems, of Impact noises,doors slamming etc, the place looking like a knackers yard, and the intimidation.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 24 Aug 13 14:17
Omaruss, The owner should see those photos.
By:
Omaruss
When: 24 Aug 13 14:20
the letting agent is meant to be seeing them next week, it'll be interesting to see if theres a mass clean up before he arrives, then as soon as he's gone it'll be back like this within a week.
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 24 Aug 13 14:24
Dont worry Omarus, most of those kids toys will be moved out of the garden and into the hallway come winterWhoops
By:
Omaruss
When: 24 Aug 13 14:27
you only really see half of what they actually have in these photos.

it all just sits there rain,shine,gales & snow

the kids toys i can handle, its all the other random crap that lies about
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 24 Aug 13 14:32
bonfire night will soon be here, A couple of old mattresses and a few old tyres would go down well with that wood come nov 5th.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 24 Aug 13 15:26
Excited
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