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casemoney
25 May 13 17:45
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reports seem sketchy but the shop in morden where I live is cordoned off by police
heard the manager was killed this morning Sad
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Report casemoney May 25, 2013 5:50 PM BST
A police cordon was put up in Morden today after a serious incident.

The incident took place in Aberconway Road, at the one-way system around Merton Civic Centre, and there is a police cordon around Morden police office and Ladbrokes bookmakers.

Two independent residents have said they heard the incident was a "stabbing", but this is yet to be confirmed by police.
Report themightymac May 25, 2013 5:59 PM BST
It`s on Twitter. Saying fatal stabbing in Morden. Terrible news.
Report casemoney May 25, 2013 6:05 PM BST
dreadful go into work saturday morning ,dont come home Sad
Report elisjohn May 25, 2013 6:10 PM BST
these shops have thousands of pounds in them, and shockingly manned early morning and evening by one staff, they also have to take all the flak from all the addicts on the machines. Ladbrokes and all bookmakers should be ashamed of themselves
Report STUDYFORM May 25, 2013 6:29 PM BST
The big firms should, certainly. elis - but this doesn't apply to all bookies.
I hope the police look harder for the perpetrator than they usually do for crimes against betting shops.
Report reculver May 25, 2013 6:47 PM BST
If it was over a loser losing on a FOBT, Then perhaps Ladcrooks won't want to press charges anyway..RIP Poor guy
Report ilikewavingatbuses May 25, 2013 6:49 PM BST
sad news.

rip
Report thearchmeister May 25, 2013 6:50 PM BST
http://www.wimbledonguardian.co.uk/news/10444535.Serious_police_incident_in_Morden/

R.I.P
Report kenny mann May 25, 2013 6:50 PM BST
shocking news, poor chap. 18 years in prison?
Report themightymac May 25, 2013 7:02 PM BST
throw away the key.
Report Anaglogs Daughter May 25, 2013 7:10 PM BST
Man murdered at Labrokes betting shop in Aberconway Road, Morden

5:31pm Saturday 25th May 2013 in Top stories  By Omar Oakes  http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/topstories/10444535.Man_murdered_at_Labrokes_in_Morden/?ref=nt

A man has been murdered at a betting shop in Morden.

Officers were called to Ladbrokes, in Aberconway Road, Morden, after paramedics discovered the dead man at the scene at 10.30am.

He was a 55-year-old who had suffered serious injuries.

A police spokesman said it appears the man was attacked in the shop by a lone, male suspect.

Police did not say whether the victim was a member of Ladbrokes staff or a customer, or whether the murder was committed in connection with another crime.

Metropolitan Police officers from the homicide and serious crime command are investigating and are awaiting confirmation for the man's next of kin to be informed, before he identified.

A post-mortem examination will be held at noon tomorrow at St George's Hospital mortuary.

A cordon was put up around the Ladbrokes shop and Morden police office next door.

Police did not say whether the victim was a member of Ladbrokes staff or a customer, or whether the murder was committed in connection with another crime.

No details have yet been released by police about the suspect. There is also no information of any arrests made.

The spokesman said it is not known at this time whether any money was taken.

Anyone with information should call police on 020 8721 4054. To remain anonymous call Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111
Report Dan Chipowski May 25, 2013 7:29 PM BST
Sad
Report Anaglogs Daughter May 25, 2013 7:46 PM BST
Ladbrokes spokesman Ciaran O'Brien said : "Ladbrokes can confirm that following a serious incident this morning at a shop in Morden a staff member has died.

"The company's priority at this time is to provide the family, to whom we extend our deepest sympathies, with all the necessary support at this difficult time. We are also providing every required resource to assisting the police in their investigation."
Report elisjohn May 25, 2013 8:14 PM BST
yes im sure you care Ladbrokes.
Report elisjohn May 25, 2013 8:15 PM BST
no way any top bookies should be manned by one person, 10.30 am I bet only 1 man in since 8.00.
Report elisjohn May 25, 2013 8:17 PM BST
all my sympathy with the gentlemans family, rip
Report Roger De Bris May 25, 2013 8:28 PM BST
All the money these bookmakers make and they can't afford security for staff.
Sick.
Report BIG GURU May 25, 2013 8:45 PM BST
A rancid company,they dont give a **** about employees or customers for that matter,profit is king,they're all the same mind you (afaik)
Report Tucho May 25, 2013 8:52 PM BST
bit fcking late offering sympathy and support ladbrokes

if you cared you wouldn't make people work on their own
Report MisterBadger May 25, 2013 9:29 PM BST
"The company's priority at this time is to provide the family, to whom we extend our deepest sympathies, with all the necessary support at this difficult time.

pity they didn't think of offering him more support in the first place, ****
Report screaming from beneaththewaves May 25, 2013 9:46 PM BST
Extraordinary to think that Cyril Stein, the hardest-nosed, most cynical and most profit-driven boss of any bookmaker in his day, said that if one of Ladbrokes' shops couldn't be profitable with two members of staff at all times, then it shouldn't be open.
Report MisterBadger May 25, 2013 9:48 PM BST
that was back in the good old days... still, at least they don't bribe jockeys any more, eh  Whoops
Report Capt__F May 25, 2013 9:50 PM BST
just heard bsd sad news
RIP to man involved
shocking
Report 121.5 May 25, 2013 9:52 PM BST
Some sub human who walks the streets armed with a knife stabs a guy and you lot blame the bookies. Crazy
Report MisterBadger May 25, 2013 9:57 PM BST
^ clown - nobody's blaming labdrokes directly for the murder, but they should not leave staff so exposed
Report Capt__F May 25, 2013 9:58 PM BST
wonder if an open counter ?
Report 121.5 May 25, 2013 10:04 PM BST
So if two people where there he wouldnt of got stabbed? Loads of staff work single handedly, community nurses getting mugged for drugs, delivery drivers, shop staff, self employed, driving instructors, Peter Barlow etc etc...clown whats special about a bookies
Report elisjohn May 25, 2013 10:05 PM BST
121.5, don't be so stupid
Report MisterBadger May 25, 2013 10:06 PM BST
the risk would be significantly lower
Report 121.5 May 25, 2013 10:08 PM BST
elis shut up you dough peak hunt
Report SlippyBlue May 25, 2013 10:08 PM BST
The local Ladbrokes who my mate is the manager, opens on her own, gets a cashier between 1 and 6 and closes on her own. Her husband sits in the shop in the evening to look after her.

Such a shocking thing that happened today and my deepest sympathies to the man's family. You go to work to earn a crust and end up paying the ultimate price. So very sad.Cry
Report MisterBadger May 25, 2013 10:09 PM BST
community nurses getting mugged for drugs... etc

that makes it ok?
Report elisjohn May 25, 2013 10:11 PM BST
121.5 , how old are you nearly 19 I presume with your joining date  simply no common sense have you
Report 121.5 May 25, 2013 10:11 PM BST
Yes its ok Crazy fool
Report elisjohn May 25, 2013 10:13 PM BST
go off this thread please, have a bit of respect to whats happened
Report mp06 May 25, 2013 10:14 PM BST
i used to be a manager of a betting shop,single manned shops are dangerous and should be illegal
R.I.P
Report 121.5 May 25, 2013 10:17 PM BST
I was simply pointing out that some scumbag has done this terrible act and the idiots are pointing the finger at the bookies...elis you piped in with a childish comment and then have the audacity to ask me to leave...have a word with yorself.
Report MisterBadger May 25, 2013 10:25 PM BST
I think you understand the argument perfectly well 121.5, you're simply being perverse - your'e probably a bit tetchy as it's past your bedtime, were you allowed to stay up for the footy?
Report Alias May 25, 2013 11:08 PM BST
So if two people where there he wouldnt of got stabbed?



elisjohn
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121.5, don't be so stupid


A look at the sentence above renders your plea obsolete, elisjohn.
Report Capt__F May 25, 2013 11:19 PM BST
never made news down hereSad
Report moisok May 25, 2013 11:25 PM BST
are they going to catch the scum - who was he??  any description??
Report SqueezeFirmly May 26, 2013 12:15 PM BST
"The company's priority at this time is to provide the family, to whom we extend our deepest sympathies, with all the necessary support at this difficult time. We are also providing every required resource to assisting the police in their investigation."

What a load of bollocks.
Report eggpresident May 26, 2013 1:18 PM BST
Hey betfair cant you remove complete lies like "The company's priority at this time is to provide the family, to whom we extend our deepest sympathies, with all the necessary support at this difficult time. We are also providing every required resource to assisting the police in their investigation." (but surely the police should be questioning ladbrokes, dont see many banks single manned do you) this is a company who bar winning customers, there only concern is there FOBTS, they shove young females into single manning (womaning if you like) then they have the bare faced nerve to pretend they care.......... THESE PEOPLE ARE PURE SCUM, never mind, as long as Richard Glynn got his bonus, of course you care ladbrokes !
Report elisjohn May 26, 2013 1:50 PM BST
bet the shop is opened today
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 26, 2013 2:09 PM BST
Possibly got more to do with the removal of bandit screens than single manning?  unless he was stabbed out in the shop sticking papers up or filling up slip dispensers.
Report guinness2dear May 26, 2013 2:12 PM BST
Stabbed after being outside for a ciggy break, So screens not an issue..
Report SlippyBlue May 26, 2013 3:53 PM BST
http://www.wimbledonguardian.co.uk/news/10444648.UPDATE__CCTV_images_reveale...
Report casemoney May 26, 2013 4:28 PM BST
Think I know the fella helped me withdraw from internet account few weeks back ,if that is him Sad

hows ur mum slip ?
Report SlippyBlue May 26, 2013 4:37 PM BST
Yeah still hanging in there nanny just about, thanks for your message the other night mate, much appreciated. I'll go to the quarter finals of the Derby as I always do. We have a table booked in the restaurant already and hopefully I'll see you then.
Report casemoney May 26, 2013 4:47 PM BST
ok mate we will have a beer or 2 Happy
Report SqueezeFirmly May 26, 2013 7:55 PM BST
i bet he felt safe having a smoke next door to a police station Sad

Even if screens are not the issue in this case, all shops should have them.

When a manager is there on his own on dark winter nights, the coonts at the top of the tree are settled in in a comfy chair watching television.

If you had 5 people in one factory working in unsafe conditions, Health and Safety would go apesh1t.

The bastards at the top of this game know they have staff over a barrel, as industrial action in one or two shops will mean fack all, they will just bring in relief staff.

It's about time ALL BETTING SHOP STAFF stuck together and said 'You have two weeks to get us screens, or we don't open.'

They can't possibly sack them all, and for every one they did sack, there should be an unfair dismissal case.

Alternatively, they walk out and claim for constructive dismissal. 

And people slag off unions ffs.

It's the lack of a union that keeps these staff unsafe.
Report annie. May 26, 2013 9:15 PM BST
I was in a will hill today and asked the manager whether it was one man working. It was and I asked him about the absence of screens.  He said that head office deemed the town to be safe.  Yeh, right, there has murders, rapes etc in the last year.

I was made redundant many, many years ago from my usual job when the company moved to wales and I did not want to go.  I had a fair settlement package so I thought I would treat myself and work in a bookies with my first love of horseracing.  I started off as a cashier but was quickly promoted to head office.  However, when I worked as a cashier before the start of horseracing the manager who was supposed to working with me was always down the pub!  But I do not remember being frightened of being on my own.  It was different times in those days.  I do not think that there was one man working in those days.  I would not work in the same shop today on my own.
Report SqueezeFirmly May 26, 2013 9:22 PM BST
When I was a manager, I was there all day. The only time I left the shop was to go to the bank. Mind you, this was in the days before lots of night racing.

Iirc, the only evening meetings were at Alexandra Park in London, and I used to leave the blower on al night for punters to listen to at the letterbox. The law was made by The Home Office that all betting shops should be closed by 6-30 p.m. 

This means that the big bookies got the law changed to suit them.
Report casemoney May 26, 2013 9:36 PM BST
managed for Ladbrokes got out when the evening racing kicked off .now u have the added attraction of dealing with lunatics who have done their brains on the roulette ,smashing machines up etc ,staff are little more than security guards looking after the money, very
rarely go into shops these days cant stand the places tbh..
Report Alias May 26, 2013 10:53 PM BST
It's the lack of a union that keeps these staff unsafe.

Never a truer word.
Report Alias May 26, 2013 10:54 PM BST
It's the lack of a union that keeps these staff unsafe.

Never a truer word.
Report clive82 May 27, 2013 12:13 AM BST
It's the lack of a union that keeps these staff unsafe.

How does a union stop something like this happening?

Lack of the death penalty that keeps the public unsafe.
Report PatraTheCat May 27, 2013 12:17 AM BST
Yep. That's why there's hardly any crime in the United States.
Report SqueezeFirmly May 27, 2013 1:49 AM BST
It's the lack of a union that keeps these staff unsafe.

clive82
How does a union stop something like this happening?


A union would ensure that all shops had saftety screens
Report reculver May 27, 2013 12:36 PM BST
The problem with these rancid firms, is that if the staff do go on strike,they can sack them,  and get a retard in to do the job.
Not being disrespectful to the staff but, if all you have to do is put a bet through a till, when placing it or settling it and emptying the FOBT'S.Then anyone can do it... the poor guy who died had been there 15 years i read, i bet he went on a settling course, and knew about betting as well, unlike the staff they employ nowadays.
Report xmoneyx May 27, 2013 1:05 PM BST
a hammer to the head,nasty
Report HRH The Lager Khan May 27, 2013 1:36 PM BST
More money overnight in the shops now these wretched FOBT's have taken over, and in turn attracting all the vermin that normally hang around those town centre amusement arcades, that nobody can understand how they turn over a profit, but this is because they are often a front for something else. This in turn bound to make them more of a target. Single manning busy shops after 8 o'clock is a disgrace, doesn't matter who you are, you need eyes in the back of your head when you come out from behind the counter. Sh1te wages in the main being paid to those merely in need of a job and with no career ambition whatsoever, working for parasites who in the main don't give a fukc. Over 75% of betting shops these days seem absolute soulless cesspits. RIP indeed.
Report nortons May 27, 2013 2:29 PM BST
Have every sympathy with the staff but they do need to get a backbone as they accept everything Head Office throws in their direction.

The District or Area Manager usually decides what shop is safe re single manning which is a ridiculous situation.When I worked for Joe and they asked me to single man I flatly refused and phoned the Health n safety dept of the local council.Chap visited and agreed on my stance, so you then had the situation of me refusing and everyone else as usual bending over,everyone needs to unite.
Report HRH The Lager Khan May 27, 2013 2:33 PM BST
Not everyone is gonna' have the balls to go with that though, nortons - Especially younger staff, who of course are fully aware of how disposable they are. When I left Corals, I said to my Area and District Managers that no way should the shop be managed in the evenings by a woman on her own. My deputy at the time was only a 22 year old, and she was asked to act up as manager on my leaving. Within ten days, she got jumped when locking up. Wasn't injured, but was roughed up a bit.
Report xmoneyx May 27, 2013 2:38 PM BST
do the bookies CARE about there STAFF?
Report wit-ham May 27, 2013 2:55 PM BST
single manning and FOBTS no screens was the reason i left Korals got held up twice

now working for train company and they now want to take down the screens, utter madness

lots of single manned/womaned stations

they answer yes but its ok in LONDON( about 15 staff around min)

the fact the BTP are everywhere at the main London stations with guns might help
Report moisok May 27, 2013 2:57 PM BST
any description of this scum  !!??
Report SqueezeFirmly May 27, 2013 3:14 PM BST
http://www.london24.com/news/cctv_appeal_over_morden_bookmakers_death_1_2210644
Report Alias May 27, 2013 4:22 PM BST
nortons 27 May 13 14:29 Joined: 29 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 593 | Blogger: nortons's blog
Have every sympathy with the staff but they do need to get a backbone as they accept everything Head Office throws in their direction.

The District or Area Manager usually decides what shop is safe re single manning which is a ridiculous situation.When I worked for Joe and they asked me to single man I flatly refused and phoned the Health n safety dept of the local council.Chap visited and agreed on my stance, so you then had the situation of me refusing and everyone else as usual bending over,everyone needs to unite.

YES - that's why union representation is essential.
Report moisok May 27, 2013 4:25 PM BST
I notice there is no WRITTEN description just a photo  ha ha!!!   If you get my drift. As you can't say the word in these delicate times.
Report Alias May 27, 2013 4:29 PM BST
clive82 27 May 13 00:13 Joined: 06 May 10 | Topic/replies: 942 | Blogger: clive82's blog
It's the lack of a union that keeps these staff unsafe.

How does a union stop something like this happening?

Lack of the death penalty that keeps the public unsafe.

................................................................................

Proper union representation would ensure the fitting of bandit screens and the cessation of single manning, for a start.

Plenty of states in the US have the death penalty and/or 100 year sentences. The same states have mass shootings in schools.

clive, you might at least garner a modicum of respect on the forum if you just confessed to being a front man for whichever firm of "booomakers". That and your ultra right views are so painfully obvious.
Report elisjohn May 27, 2013 4:37 PM BST
I recall 2 members of staff in each of 3 little bookies in town years ago, also employed was the board marker ,     I have been told that member of staff now has to clean the toilets in some shops
Report Burton-Brewers May 27, 2013 4:39 PM BST
was this a robbery?
Report reculver May 27, 2013 5:26 PM BST
If he was playing the FOBT'S,of course it was robbery.
Report casemoney May 27, 2013 5:57 PM BST
shop still closed cordoned off Sad
Report casemoney May 27, 2013 6:00 PM BST
not sad its closed just for the manager and his family Sad

there is a powers stan james and hills within 500 yds of lads

must be a great atmosphere amomg the staff in them ..Shocked
Report themightymac May 27, 2013 6:01 PM BST
A guy leapt the counter in my local shop (fully manned) with a sword last year and made off with the float. He was a druggie, well known locally and is in the clink now.
Report annie. May 27, 2013 7:05 PM BST
Why on earth did they take the bandit screens down?  Years ago they were there in every shop, but gradually they were taken down, in the interest of profit?
Report flushgordon1 May 27, 2013 7:29 PM BST
the guy that did it looks like an arse transplant that went wrong
Report casemoney May 27, 2013 7:50 PM BST
They took the screens down in the interest of customer service ,no doubt some fooking rsole in a head office thought it would be
a good idea so as you can communicate with the customers on more friendly terms ,when I worked for ladbrokes it was suggested
staff struck up converstaions with customers regarding sporting events I.e a football match that might be on that night ,you
were then supposed to bring the conversation around to a betting market that might be available on the match I.e correct score market, in the hope the dopey bastard you have just been talking to would place a bet, you really cannot make it up how low some
of these companies can get ,and the shyte is left for the shop staff to deal with ....
I would imagine with the FOBT and cartooon racing every minute things are a lot worse than they were in my day ...
Report SqueezeFirmly May 27, 2013 9:05 PM BST
Last time I went into a Ladbrokes shop in east London was about 2001.

It was a big shop with plenty of people in there as it was a Saturday morning. There was a group of 7/8 men playing roulette on an FOBT, and the display said that they had over £800 in there.

I was in there for about 15 minutes talking to a few mates, and at first the group on the FOBT were cheering, I assumed they had winning numbers. But when I left they had £4 left in the machine, and none of them had been to the counter to be paid. After I lweft , an argiemnt broke out . None on the locals knew what it was about as they were all shouting at each other in an eastern european language.   

The Ladbrokes shop in Wisbech is going to become a 'one man shop', but in this instance, the manager is a woman, and she has had to call the police on numerous occasions, when drunks go in there for a kip in the afternoon when they have no work from the local employment agencies. She has no safety screens in there, neither did the shop in London.

Nobody cares, until they get robbed.
Report casemoney May 28, 2013 7:15 PM BST
Shop still closed loads of flowers outside ,the word is he was actually hit with a hammer ,there is a bandit screen in the shop
some reports say he was havibg a cig outside but others saying he was tricked with the bloke saying problem with FOBT ..
Report da fallon factor May 28, 2013 8:30 PM BST
Sad
Report casemoney May 30, 2013 2:28 AM BST
word on the street someone has been arrested apparently a local Plain
Report hitmanhearn May 30, 2013 6:53 AM BST
Be back betting in the same shop in 15 years.Joke of a country .RIP poor man.
Report Alias May 30, 2013 9:03 AM BST
casemoney 30 May 13 02:28 Joined: 04 Aug 06 | Topic/replies: 5,949 | Blogger: casemoney's blog
word on the street someone has been arrested apparently a local



Word on the street? You mean a rumour?
Report Veridis Quo May 30, 2013 11:53 AM BST
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/50842

To make it compulsory for high street bookmakers to have 2 members of staff present during opening hours

Responsible department: Department for Business, Innovation and Skills

To Properly regulate the betting industry in regard to staff, to acknowledge that staff have a right not to work in fear , alone , at any time of the day.
"Single manning" should be outlawed as a work practice, that a shop should be closed if 2 members of staff are not available.
There should be no "opt in" to any single manning policy so bookmakers have no way of bullying staff into "opt in" schemes , making them over time, compulsory practice.



Please sign.
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 30, 2013 12:56 PM BST
I used to work for Hills 20+ years ago and was robbed once at gunpoint and twice outside the shop at knifepoint all in the space of around 12 months, (once going to the bank and once it appeared I was going to the bank but I wasn't) so this has bought back memories.  I guess I was unlucky, but it was a shop perfect for robbing as you had a quick getaway onto the North Circular and there was a particularly long walk, secluded in parts, to the bank.  I actually went on a lads holiday with a Ladbrokes manager who used to work in South East London and whom I haven't seen for about 10 years.  I recall his 30th birthday party and reconciled that made him 54 not 55.

I know betting companies generally treat their shop staff not well at all, but I don't have a problem with single manning at quiet times in quiet shops.  I'd be more concerned by the lack of bandit screens as I was threatened twice in my youth, and the screens at least gave me piece of mind.  The shop itself should close for good.  It's not fair for anyone to work with that atmosphere hanging over their head.
Report Alias May 30, 2013 9:48 PM BST
Clydebank, a WH manager and cashier who were attacked (and manager stabbed with scissors) in the Dalkeith branch last year were assaulted AFTER the culprit trashed the FOBT which had took his money, and who then smashed his way into the office with a stool from the shop floor. Sometimes bandit screens are useless.
Report Alias May 30, 2013 9:52 PM BST
Signed, VQ.
Report Capt__F May 31, 2013 1:24 AM BST
signed VQ
Report SqueezeFirmly May 31, 2013 2:05 AM BST
signed, VQ


Good luck
Report elisjohn May 31, 2013 7:46 AM BST
signed
Report bigmo May 31, 2013 8:21 AM BST
signed VQ
Report laroche May 31, 2013 8:59 AM BST
signed
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 31, 2013 6:32 PM BST
My understanding is he was having a cigarette outside the shop and was attacked by a psycho with a hammer walking past.  He wasn't found until one and half hours later when the cashier reported for work.
Report Alias May 31, 2013 11:05 PM BST
Clydebank - this from the thread on HR by Anaglogs Daughter.


Police arrest man over Andrew Iacovou murder

By GRAHAM GREEN  4:23PM 30 MAY 2013
racingpost.com

DETECTIVES investigating the murder of Ladrokes betting shop manager Andrew Iacovou arrested a 21-year-old man in east London on Thursday morning.

He was taken to a south London police station, where he will remain in custody while inquiries continue.

Father-of-three Iacovou, 55, who had worked for Ladbrokes for more than 20 years, was bludgeoned to death at around 8.30am last Saturday when alone at his shop in Aberconway Road, Morden, in what is believed to have been a botched robbery attempt.

A Justgiving page set up for the benefit of his wife and children has already raised more than £16,000. To donate to the fund visit justgiving.com/AndrewIacovou.

The shop, which stands next door to Morden neighbourhood police office that was unmanned at the time of the murder, remains closed. Ladbrokes spokesman Ciaran O'Brien said there were no immediate plans to re-open the shop.
Report casemoney June 1, 2013 4:32 PM BST
from what ive been hearing it appears the attacker was known in the shop Plain still closed
loads of flowers outside ,would imagine there would not be too many people interested in working there..Sad
the bloke in the cctv looks a lot older than 21 ..
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