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12 Dec 12
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Like they did to the News of the World...
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Rupert Murdoch closed down NotW because he was scared sh*tless the scandal would bring down his empire of filth...
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so why aren't the bbc worried about their empire of filth?
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Because it is a left wing empire of flith and they get a free pass.
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They should do away with the license fee and let the BBC live or die by subscription, like every body else.
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And get something like ITV.....no thanks.....
BBC ....great value for about 40p per day... (£145.5 / 365 )... |
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polybot Joined: 20 Oct 03
Replies: 3345 12 Dec 12 10:32 so why aren't the bbc worried about their empire of filth? Well, unlike News International, they have announced two seperate independent enquiries into issues surrounding their historical black spot (savile and the subsequent fall out), haven't lied through their teeth about what went on to the House of Commons and a judicial enquiry and the top man (as regards the Newsnight fiasco) has taken responsibility and resigned. That is to say, they are dealing with the allegations in a professional and morally acceptable manner. |
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BBC ....great value for about 40p per day... (£145.5 / 365 )...
Then you will no doubt be one that subscribes. There are others with a different point of view. |
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"That is to say, they are dealing with the allegations in a professional and morally acceptable manner."
what, you mean thirty years later? After the "top man" snuck out the back door just in time and got a plum job at the equally corrupt New York Times? |
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The Leopard
You should feel free to subscribe but you and they shouldn't compel the rest of us to do so on pain of imprisonment. |
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what, you mean thirty years later? After the "top man" snuck out the back door just in time and got a plum job at the equally corrupt New York Times?
Yes (to the first part of your statement). Would you rather they'd continue to deny all responsibility or to put it down to one 'rogue element'? As to your second point, well, That's Life (god I hope Rantzen is implicated in this somewhere). Get to a certain level in commerce or football management and no matter how big your fk up, you're still on Easy Street, parked up next to a machine that sh1ts gold. |
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As there is nearly as much advertising on the BBC as any commercial channel maybe it is time to reassess the funding arrangements.
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BBC ....great value for about 40p per day... (£145.5 / 365 )...
ITV is even better value at 0p per day. £0.00 / 365 = £0.00 |
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The Leopard 12 Dec 12 10:51
BBC ....great value for about 40p per day... (£145.5 / 365 )... If that's correct it will take me 6850 years just to pay Gary Lineker's salary for 1 year. |
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So we are all moaning about the BBC...again! It is superb value. Do any of you realise the truth about 'commercial television'? Firstly their advertising invades your life with almost constant interruption about totally 'out of context' products. If I am watching a car programme they could at least show related adverts instead of some 'because we're worth it' crap.
So, they make you endure their adverts (which are very expensive) and they get YOU to pay for them when you buy the product. |
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naydam
If you don't like the adverts you are at liberty to switch over to another channel. It seems that if others like paying for the BBC it is tough luck because some of you think it is good value. Some of us don't share your view. Some of us think the idea of a state broadcaster paid for upon threat of imprisonment belongs in another age. |
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Anything on commercial channels can be recorded, so adverts have no effect for me.
What shames the left wing bbc though, is the need to hide court cases involving pakistani gangs and schoolgirls. They hide this at local level as much as national news. Young man that was murdered by a gang of 30 hoodies while watching Chelsea in the pub last May, disgrace that these pc liars attempted to make it sound like a row between football fans. Always pushing the gay issue, to the point that it seems compulsory to be gay to be employed as a weatherman, beginning to seem as though if you are are white and heterosexual, there is nothing to see here. |
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Hundreds of channels & you are forced by law to pay to watch around half a dozen of them, so though you pay for the BBC you cannot turn on your set to watch any other channel as you will be breaking the law, you could not make it up really.
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Good lord. I despair. The mixture of stupidity and misinformation (and CaT's late entry of gormless bigotry) are depressing: never has a nation been so keen to dismantle the institutions that once made it great.
We'll abolish Test cricket and mushy peas next and then gently sink beneath the icy waters of la Manche. |
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Its making a great job of dismantling itself if you ask me.
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ORIOLE,
Show me which of my points are not fact please, thank you,you moron. |
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Notwithstanding the rather obvious point that you are expressing opinions, not facts, let's examine the breathless assertion:
it seems compulsory to be gay to be employed as a weatherman Rock solid. Licking the lead paint off your toys was always going to catch up with you. |
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I'm in total shock today, for the first time the bbc did not put a negative spin within the news story of the unemployment fall.
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"Licking the lead paint off your toys was always going to catch up with you."
Best response ever. I very, very rarely watch ITV, but I pay for it every time I go to the shops and purchase something. My choice in the matter is pay or go shoplifting. I cannot remember the last 'must see' that ITV did. I use the BBC as my main source of news, the radio station I listen to the most, and most of the programmes I try to see are on there. I could rely on commercial enterprises for any of the above but I don't fancy being an X-Factor viewing, Heart listening, Murdoch believing bellend like too many of the population these days. |
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^ 100% agree.
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Best post as usual comes from EO with this:
Some of us think the idea of a state broadcaster paid for upon threat of imprisonment belongs in another age. Spot on. |
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No, it's not, 'spot on'. I take the poster's point, but the BBC is nominally a state broadcaster.
The entirely laudable point he makes depends upon the traditional definition of a state broadcaster as a propaganda machine, slavishly supporting a government at the cost of credibility: the comments on this thread are evidence that the BBC doesn't fit that definition in the least. |
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It belongs in another age, because in this day and age Murdoch / Dacre and the like would ensure that it never happened, and for that, everyone in the UK should be eternally grateful.
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cloughandtaylor
I had a look at the case you mention, it does make interesting reading. Certainly the initial reports from the tabloids and other media refer to what was essentially an armed assault by a gang of black youths on pub-goers. The BBC report (earlier, in most cases), whilst arguably still factually accurate, could be considered misleading...if of course the other reports (all of seem to follow the same source). I couldn't say with certainty the BBC were being cautious or deliberately misleading, but they do generally hold themselves to higher standards of proof. Having had a look for further information, there's been almost no coverage since, except by the BBC, who have even named those accused. The numbers of those arrested would appear to support the gang attack but a few further points. The victim was an Arsenal fan. Chelsea have a very large number black players, and presumably therefore black fans. The supposed dispute in the shop could very well have been over football. The reason the better broadcasters are cautious is because sometimes witnesses makes mistakes or lie. The tabloids reported someone saying 20 people were involved, in your version it's jumped to 30. The tabloids reported someone saying it was a black gang, this could well be true, but the names of two of the three charged sound more Asian to me. The bottom line is I don't know. I wish the BBC would be more forthright about racial issues sometimes, but they're still better than pretty much any other media source. |
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I would go as far as to say there is a general media reluctance regarding the race issue. Quite often, in all forms of media a description of a wanted person will describe them as white or not give a colour, very rarely says black.
I don't think its a BBC issue. |
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Indeed, and while that's wrong, I think the BBC are often more daring than commercial networks, especially when tackling radical Islam.
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In response to the op,i think it should be banned due to the fact is an Act not a Law.
They try and enforce it like a law but when challanged they soon back off. Daylight robbery. |
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What is the difference between an Act and Law?
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U tube the subject mate,(tv licence fee)then it will all be clear.
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ah yes, the source of all expert, non-biased learning! :-)
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They should do away with the license fee and let the BBC live or die by subscription, like every body else.
I agree with Sibaroni, and why should people who never watch it and struggle to pay the license fee have to help to fund it? It's not as if a vital service. It's become more like a sort of career club money pit that provides high paid jobs for certain types. It's a relic of the past. |
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phil
Seeing as you made the assertion and I'm a non practising barrister I'm asking you to explain it. Always happy to learn new things. |
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As there is nearly as much advertising on the BBC as any commercial channel maybe it is time to reassess the funding arrangements.
This is spot on. The amount of 'covert' advertising on both the BBC Radio and Television is staggering. Daytime TV consists of never ending barrage of advertising dressed up as programing. Today's 'Breakfast' fare consisted off a 5 minute promo for a Hillsborough Charity record followed by an 8 minute advertisement for an up and coming film called 'Quartet' - I turned over to Lorraine for some real advertising. Shows such as Graham Norton's are a never ending plug for latest films, records, shows, books et al. Even Jules Holland gets in on the act by blatantly holding up a guests latest CD or book. I recently listened on BBC radio to a full 20 minutes of Ben Elton plugging his latest book. |