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Watching Lock Stock and 2 smoking barrels on ITV and seeing these 2 gentlemen in it made me wonder who would win in a boxing match.
Lennny (who died shortly after this film was released) must have weighed twice as much but was not a proper boxer.
Steve, great fighter but only super middleweight.
I'd price it 1/4 McLean.
Lennny (who died shortly after this film was released) must have weighed twice as much but was not a proper boxer.
Steve, great fighter but only super middleweight.
I'd price it 1/4 McLean.
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Surely lenny didnt weigh twice as much as collins? Is this bare knuckle or with gloves?
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good question, let's say with gloves for starters.
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Lenny weighed 20 stone, so about 7 stone heavier.
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Gadzooks kenny, I'd remotrgage my granny and put it on @ 1.25 on The Guvnor, he would have tore Collins a new hole.
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McLean, who in his prime was six feet two inches (188 cm) tall and weighed over twenty stone (127 kg), boasted that he could beat anybody, in either a legitimate match or in an unlicensed match with or without gloves, and reputedly sent out challenges to many of the famous boxers of the day, including Muhammed Ali and Mr. T, though neither contest materialised.
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should have read 1/14 Slippy. Keyboard sticking. Is that value?
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It is like the human v cheetah all over again. Everyone so certain about it. Surely collins wouldve been very quick and fit. Thought unlicensed bare knuckle fights were all over in minutes, how would mclean cope under queensbury rules once you got past the second round?
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Lenny mclean called out ali and Mr T? Fk me he must be sh1t hot then because boxers are normally such shy retiring characters, if one ever came out with such bold claims as that then they must surely be the real deal.
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He'd have been dq'd in the first for below the belt, biting, butting, elbowing and kicking!
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He never lost in 3000 fights apparently. I think he would have been too much for Mike.
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Steve Collins no danger,.
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You didn't say Queensbury rules..
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Steve Collins
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I seem to remember that Roy Shaw said he would lose to any fringe world class fighter, but he would be talking of the same weight, that's why I went for a big weight/size difference.
We have a difference of opinion here, so not such a dumb question. |
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I'm taking
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I'm talking about Queensbury rules here.
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Big Charlie would know. RIP
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Big charlie would just speak with great authority, not the same as "knowing"
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True.
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Well Queensbury rules puts a different slant on things which you didn't say in the OP.
I just assumed it was a no hold tear up. In a boxing match with no biting, gouging, kicking in the goolies etc Collins would win. |
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I said in a boxing match Slippy, not a street brawl.
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McLean v Shaw for a few pointers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtRnhayJFmI&feature=related |
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Maclean may not have been blessed with boxing skill, but he could certainly punch. If you get hit by a jab from somebody weighing 20 stones, no matter how big you are yourself, it hurts. If you get hit full force flush on the chin, you are going down. If you manage to get get up but go down down again, stay there.
Maclean, for me, Queensbury rules or otherwise. |
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Think ive seen that before kenny, but just watched it again. Shaw didnt exactly look like a figure of fitness. They were wearing gloves, but were they full weight?
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Haven't the foggiest rob, but I think Squeeze has it right.
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I'm not so sure Glimma, Queensbury rules, Collins fitness and stamina would see him home. Remember he was a bit of a warrior himself. He broke Eubank in those epic encounters and Eubank was no pushover in his pomp.
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Theres no great precedence for people fightiing another person who is miles bigger except within the heavyweight division. Haye v valuev a case in point, loved that fight but having just seen mclean, think he was a lot quicker than valuev who lost.
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Is Glimma back?
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He is long gone, would surely have posted by now.
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Collins was gusty and super fit, but no way would he have beaten a pre-Watson Eubank, no way.
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gutsy, even!
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just looking at Slippy's 12-05 rob.
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Slippy is mistaken. Like i say there is absolutely no chance glimma will return.
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You don't know that unless perhaps he's been in touch with you.
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He's always returned very quickly. Probably having a breather.
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Well he wouldve posted by now. Unless he has disguised himself with some gay pseudonym
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Lenny Mclean lost quite a few times, his book is a work of fiction
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He was allegedly twice knocked out by Johnny "Big Bad" Waldron during the early days of his boxing career, both times in the first round. He was also knocked out in the first round by Cliff Field (neither knockout loss is mentioned in his autobiography) and beaten on points by Kevin Paddock
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