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By:
Tommy Toes
When: 03 Sep 12 10:40
Terrific write-up of yesterday's events, RTB.

What a fantastic day for all of your family to treasure forever.
By:
GPT
When: 03 Sep 12 10:57
Nice piece in the Telegraph front pages today.
By:
orioles
When: 03 Sep 12 11:16
So, the memsahib and I are having a little light supper (quail served on a bed of unicorn horn, since you ask) and one of the staff mentions that an interview is being shown on the C4 news that might interest the master.

Naturally, my wife's instinct was to disembowel the presumptuous guttersnipe with one of our silver Regency dodo carvers, but he managed to remind me that I was interested to see Pamela Relph compete, just before the memsahib reached him.

What a fine young woman, RTB. You must be immensely proud of her, and she seems to combine being a supreme athlete with no little charm and intelligence. Please pass on the heartiest congratulations of all of us at the Towers.
By:
kenny mann
When: 03 Sep 12 11:27
A Seabrook crisp sarnie more like.Mischief

Great race, very pleased for Roger and family.
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Sep 12 11:46
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http://shop.royalmail.com/paralympicsgb-gold-medal-winner-miniature-sheets/paralympicsgb-gold-medal-winner-miniature-sheet-rowing-mixed-coxed-four-ltamix4+/invt/sku00008028/
By:
kenny mann
When: 03 Sep 12 13:28
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By:
kenny mann
When: 03 Sep 12 13:29
3 nice chicks, which is Roger's?
By:
mafeking
When: 03 Sep 12 13:55
pam is far left
By:
kenny mann
When: 03 Sep 12 14:01
Thanks looks a lovely girl. Does she like cats?
By:
jardine
When: 03 Sep 12 14:18
heard the replay of the commentary this morning on Radio5. quality
By:
Aunty Post
When: 03 Sep 12 14:30
I must say that we should compliment the rest of the crew too!

Particularly the big guy in the middle, who looks quite outstanding!
By:
attitude adjuster
When: 03 Sep 12 14:35
well done roger and pam

fantastic stuff Happy
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 03 Sep 12 14:42
Brilliant stuff, worth all the hours and hours of practice, worry, travel, work and enjoyment.
It will, and should, be party time in the 'thebutler' household for ages.

Here's to all the wins to come!!
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 03 Sep 12 15:26
Just attempted to watch Channel Four's coverage of the Rowing yesterday, which we recorded whilst watching it live at Dorney.

Does the phrase 'blink and you missed it' mean anything to anyone?

Hours of endless coverage given to events at Stratford, maybe Greenwich too but send a camera crew and competent commentator all the way to Berkshire and devote the 3 mins and 19 seconds it took for Pam's race to be run yesterday? Impossible it seems, never mind covering their medals ceremony.

Two bob coverage from a two bob broadcaster.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 03 Sep 12 15:38
roger, I share your frustration!

It is beyond diabolical imo!

I think most of their cameras etc, were dug in for the day at the equestrian events!
By:
mafeking
When: 03 Sep 12 15:55
woeful beyond belief hardly does it justice

excuse my ignorance but is it different from the olympics in that there's no central pool of broadcasters and channel 4 can decide what to show or are they having to provide their own camera crew if they want to show anything ?
By:
Degs
When: 03 Sep 12 18:53
Nice bit of coverage on BBC South Today just now, interview with Pam & team.
By:
Cubanpete
When: 03 Sep 12 19:02
On the one show now
By:
tommycockles
When: 03 Sep 12 19:03
is that Pam on the One Show now?
By:
RoyClaytonsTash
When: 03 Sep 12 19:04
Agreed Roger,could have easily showed it live but decided to show a swimming heat with 4/5 swimmers in it!.
Their coverage is carrying on from the appaling Daegu efforts last  year.........oh here she is nowGrin
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 03 Sep 12 20:17
With my ultra pragmatic (some might say 'cynical') head on, I'm trying to see this from Channel Fours point and still come up with a frustrating vacuum.

They need to sell advertising space. No problem with that and that's what you expect when you watch anything on a commercial channel.

So what better way of pulling in punters than with an event that, beforehand at least, might have been expected to deliver British medals. Throw in the 'feelgood' factor of actually covering the national anthem live and a bit of Royalty stardust (Prince Edward, Kate Middleton and Sophie Wessex were all at Dorney on Sunday) and you have a nice little viewer-friendly package that would have delivered (IMO) viewers in spades.

If they'd done their homework properly they would have realised that after the heats, Tom Aggar was far from the shoe-in they blithely promoted him as. Tom is a thoroughly pleasant man as well as a warrior of an athlete and would have been embarrassed abouth them virtually hanging a medal round his neck before he raced. C4 could have made this a real competitive battle if they had approached their coverage professionally. Instead they attempted to re-write their pre-determined script, failing even to do that properly with a lousy camera angle only showing Tombeing pipped for third in the final few seconds of his race when the Russian  appeared as if from nowhere.

Ditto Sam and Nick in the Pair. Nick Beighton's story chokes me up every time I read about it. He is a fine man and whilst that in itself does not confer sainthood and blanket coverage, their efforts did not deserve to be ignored.

I won't comment further on the coverage the Four received, one, because I don't want this to come off as a father's whinge and two, because Pam and her crew deserve their day in the sunshine rather than be potentially broadsided by an issue like the coverage their event received by Channel Four.
By:
Crisp77
When: 03 Sep 12 21:41
This is the first thread I have read on here in months while smiling Happy
By:
pox doctors clerk
When: 03 Sep 12 21:47
roger she wins a gold in the looks department too
By:
Crisp77
When: 03 Sep 12 22:01
Well I wouldn't mind medalling..WhoopsWhoopsWhoops
By:
anubis7
When: 03 Sep 12 22:38
I wasn't in,so missed the race,but there are three other channels showing the Paralympics. They are 450-452 on Sky. Also on Virgin and Freesat. Did anyone check if the race was shown live on one of those channels? It would certainly be unforgiveable if none of them showed it.

Anyway,well done to the five of them.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 03 Sep 12 23:12
I checked and kept on checking the Channel4 site on my computer all of yesterday morning, which shows all the live viewing available.
None of the channels showed the race live.

Channel 4 didn't even mention the race was taking place until it was over, and then showed the brief clip as seen on the link at the bottom of page 3 by Jayco.

Channel 4 then showed a ten second clip, long after the medal ceremony was over, of the mixed coxed four raising their arms on the podium - but didn't show their medals being presented nor any of the ceremony.

As of this afternoon, the Ch4 Paralympics site still only had the brief clip of the race available to view, not the full race.
The interview in the studio with Pam's crew (which I missed) wasn't available to watch, although many other interviews with other athletes were/are.

If I hadn't also been tuned into Radio5 at the time of Pam's race, I'd have missed it - as I'm sure many others did.

It was a terrible decision by Ch4 to show swimming heats when there were Brits going for medals in 3 races at Eton Dorney yesterday morning - and the scant attention they paid to the gold medal winning performance by Pam's crew (when they deigned to show a minute of the race) was deplorable.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 03 Sep 12 23:16
*link at the bottom of page 2 by Jayco.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 04 Sep 12 06:53
Cheers for this information Tommy - very helpful in getting an understanding of exactly what the TV viewer was (or in this case, wasn't) seeing.

Got several irate texts re garding the non-coverage of Friday's heats too.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 04 Sep 12 07:16
Just found an interview on YouTube which was nice to see.

Pam is a very pretty, intelligent and articulate girl for sure.

Unlike her very SSilly dad! Laugh
By:
iamajambo
When: 04 Sep 12 07:55
There's a 60 second video clip of a post-race interview on The Guardian's web-site.You can find it on the Sport homepage.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 04 Sep 12 10:46
You're welcome, RTB.

The coverage by Ch4 was terrible in the extreme and continues to be so. There's still no sign of the full race or the studio interview of the mixed coxed four on their website.

However, I've managed to find a short video released by the Press Association of Pam and crew on their thoughts after the medal ceremony:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH5PoR8Bsqg
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 04 Sep 12 11:23
It's frustrating and disappointing.

Thanks to Paralympics GB and Proctor and Gamble, who sponsored the 'Nearest and Dearest' programme supporting Olypic and PAralympic athletes, we were able to get tickets for pretty much all the family who wanted to watch live. These were in the stand over where the Medals Ceremnies were held and were, basically, the best views in the house.

However, I'd set the Sky+ to record the heats and final on Channel Four, so we could relive these with neighbours, friends and well-wishers when we returned home.

I'd got an inkling that the TV coverage wasn't great from a seies of irate texts from well-wishers who wanted to watch Pam's heat on Friday. This then went stellar on Sunday for the final.

We finally got to watch the recording of C4's coverage yesterday morning and, well, the above posts take up the story from there.

We've expressed our disappointment to C4 as parents but also as viewers and as I posted above, with my commercial hat on, I think C4 missed out on an event which, from their perspective, would have delivered them more viewers.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 04 Sep 12 11:35
Yes, Ch4 definitely missed out on what would have been a great commercial opportunity for them if they'd have concentrated on the rowing on Sunday instead of (seemingly) being immersed in the pool (pardon the pun).

I felt sure they'd make more of Pam's crew's success when the news reached the studio that they'd won - but far from it.
It was almost like an afterthought.
For them then not to even show the medal celebration was mind-boggling in its ineptitude.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 04 Sep 12 12:16
I saw what the stamp will look like last night roger, they covered it on our regional news as one of the guys is from the midlands.
By:
Capt__F
When: 04 Sep 12 13:08
Excellent performance from young Butler bit of a stunner too
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 04 Sep 12 13:17
Burton

Yeah - that's James Roe, the Stroke. Really nice guy - proper boy scout!
By:
alun2005
When: 04 Sep 12 14:10
Do we know yet whether there will be a golden postbox in her honour?
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 04 Sep 12 14:14
Yep

Already done, just outside our gaff!

They don't mess around, the Post Office.
By:
Mexico
When: 04 Sep 12 14:15
Alun - Gold postbox story from the local paper...


http://www.bucksherald.co.uk/news/local-news/rower-s-golden-display-results-in-dazzling-new-post-box-in-weston-turville-1-4220928

Well done all involved - a great performance.  As mentioned it is a shame the TV coverage were showing a swimming heat (which did not even involve GB).
By:
alun2005
When: 04 Sep 12 14:19
Oh that's great news !   Thanks both.
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