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By:
rogerthebutler
When: 05 Mar 12 13:20
Last championships, the winning time in the 50-54 age bracket (heavyweight mens) was 6:16.0

6.50 would have put you comfortably in the top 20 for this age group.
By:
elisjohn
When: 05 Mar 12 13:32
cheers rog, certain with training etc  i could get into 7.30 , i,ll keep you updated, trouble is at this moment im trying to lose fat through heart rate , so i know if i started hammering the rowing now my h/r would go sky high
By:
kincsem
When: 05 Mar 12 14:25
Buy a bicycle, a real bicycle costing £500+, not a BSO (bike shaped object) as sold in a well know motor accessories store chain.

There is no subscription, and if you stop cycling you still have your exercise machine.
By:
HowieTheRookie.
When: 05 Mar 12 21:30
I did 2000M row today in 8mins 37s today, thats a PBHappy
By:
Antifa1981
When: 05 Mar 12 21:53
Buy a skipping rope. Use it first thing on a morning. This will really shock your body and you will lose pounds.
By:
PatraTheCat
When: 06 Mar 12 01:36
To people talking about rowing stats.

Are these machines standardised in any way re resistance? How do you all know you're comparing like with like? In my gym even the same model of machine differ between each other (i.e. it's much harder to do a km on one compared to another even when both are on the maximum resistance setting).
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 06 Mar 12 04:33
Set the drag factor - nothing to do with transvestisism - on the monitor to around 130-140
By:
elisjohn
When: 06 Mar 12 09:02
but a skipping ropeLaugh,wish i could skip , cant do oneLaugh
By:
elisjohn
When: 06 Mar 12 09:03
thats bloody good howie, well done
By:
rob_dylan
When: 06 Mar 12 20:50
I am gonna have a go at two k next time I go to gym.  Did nine k in forty mins quite easily the other day.  Reckon I would be about eight mins and a bit if I went he'll for leather for two k.  I prefer long and steady to killing myself for eight mins personally.  I always put resistance thing up to ten, maximum, no idea what that equates to in terms of drag. 

Did 18k on the runner yesterday too, got the bus home too knackered to bike.
By:
elisjohn
When: 07 Mar 12 07:46
thats one thing i was hopeless at long distance running, the most i did was around 3 miles, honestly found it much easier to run faster than jog, i did a 1600 meters on treadmill once 1n 4.50, but most treadmill in gym now only go up to a max speed of 6 min /mile pace, i cannot run at all now,but ok on rower, walkingon treadmill, cycling ok but knee plays up afterwards, seems fine on rower though.  in my early 40s my aim was to go for olympics in my 50s for the seniors, but betfair/wine/ food put paid for thatGrin  , try in my 60sGrin,i was going to try the 400 meters, with proper coaching etc i reckon i could have run it in sub 49,in my 50s , dont know if that would have been a good enough time though
By:
elisjohn
When: 07 Mar 12 07:53
in my 40s 32 waist, now struggling to fit 42waist, but my thighs is the the bugger, massive. down now fron 124 kg just over 2 weeks ago to 115.8 this morning, off to gym soon, do some rowing today and loads of reps light weight on leg extension, try and get nicer shape to thighs, will try 30 mins on rower try do 6000/6500 m done .
By:
elisjohn
When: 07 Mar 12 07:57
good luck rob on the 2k, sub 8 mins not easy depending on your fitness level, you seem fit so youll do it, just keep it on the 2mins per 500m screen find that helps .
By:
elisjohn
When: 07 Mar 12 09:52
30 mins rower 6550 m , didnt go mental but nearly gave up after 20 mins
By:
Facts
When: 07 Mar 12 10:40
Exercise to get fit ? 20 mins power walk 3 times a week

Lose Weight? Cut out all foods that contain more than 5g fat per 100g. ( eg butter,full fat milk,cream,cheese,bacon,crisps,sausage,peanuts,pastries.
It works, the weight just falls off you.

Had gallstones, given this diet,(pre subsequent op.)Lost 2st ( 14 - 12)in 3 months.
By:
d13phe
When: 07 Mar 12 13:05
if you want to lose weight - fast for 24 hrs once or twice a week.

If you want to get fit, do whatever you want at maximum intensity in intervals (running, weights, cycling)

No point in a gym as its full of people who dont really understand what they are doing.

There is a magic formula for losing weight and building muscle but you have to dig beneath all the bullsh1t that vested interests put out there.
By:
PatraTheCat
When: 07 Mar 12 15:28
I'm not at all sure about 24-hour fasts for losing weight - surely a lot of people would get so hungry during the fast that it would be difficult to work or study. It would be deeply unpleasant, surely.

I reckon that for weight loss you just need to maintain a weekly calorie deficit in the least horrible way for you personally. For me, this involves quite a lot of exercise, not pushing myself too hard as fitness is just a secondary consideration. Expend 10,000 kcals per week more than you eat and you'll either lose weight or be able to make a lot of money from having discovered a way to create energy from nothing in violation of our current understanding of thermodynamics.

Regarding gyms, I totally agree that more "natural" exercise (running, swimming) is better; however, gyms are extremely practical (you can use one, shower and go back to the office) and you can do lots of things in them. Absolutely full of posers though. A ridiculous number of people just seem to walk on the treadmill, chatting away on their Blackberries, and don't even get out of breath. Absolutely ridiculous.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 07 Mar 12 15:31
But what a ridiculous number of other people do in a gym should have no bearing on what you do, are aiming to achieve and pay for in a gym.

Just blast the pencil-necks out the way!!
By:
Facts
When: 07 Mar 12 15:46
I've just posted how to lose weight.Exercise more  and eat less = calorie reduction.Its not rocket science.Cut out the fat intakeThe body then feeds off the existing fat.Exercise speeds this up!
Its well known that starving yourself once or twice a week does not work. The body's metabolism just slows down, therefore no weight loss achieved.
By:
elisjohn
When: 07 Mar 12 16:03
it seems facts correct, honestly i was on 20st less than 3 weeks ago, today weighted in gym 18 st 6 lbs, im exercising more and really cut down on fats and calories.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 07 Mar 12 19:33
7 mins 57, result. I was making lots of involuntary grunts at the end, sure people were looking at me and muttering  It's weird the rower, I can go at 230 m min for ages, perhaps an hour.  250 per minute is an order of magnitude harder. 260 per minute would get me round in about 7 forty, reckon it'll be super hard to knock just 17 seconds off but might make it my next target.  I am training for a marathon on my sixth, only want to try and beat four hours thirty, which is nothing special, hence the long runs, might try and keep up the rowing on my days off the treadmill. 

4:30 for a mile is pretty damn quick.  I did a. 400 m on a proper athletics track a few years ago and it took me 74s and I was blowing out my @rss.  I'm defo not a sprinter.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 07 Mar 12 19:39
My sixth = may sixth
By:
elisjohn
When: 07 Mar 12 19:40
4.50 , rob, i was told in gym today redgrave was doing 2000m in 4.40.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 07 Mar 12 19:44
4:40, bloody he'll.  I think the pros do it with less strokes per minute too.  I do about 30 spm, he might've done 22, which would mean he only did about a hundred strokes, 20 m per stroke.
By:
d13phe
When: 08 Mar 12 11:39
I've just posted how to lose weight.Exercise more  and eat less = calorie reduction.Its not rocket science.Cut out the fat intakeThe body then feeds off the existing fat.Exercise speeds this up!
Its well known that starving yourself once or twice a week does not work. The body's metabolism just slows down, therefore no weight loss achieved.

absolute nonsense from start to finish.

diet is about 80% of weight loss/definition of body

when you fast your metabolism doesn't slow down for the first 72 hours.  This is scientifically proven and actually the key to losing weight long term is very scientific so rocket science isnt far off.

I have reduced my body fat from 20% to 7% in about a year doing HIIT/interval training (2 hours a week) and fasting twice a week.

As long as you don't binge when you eat and eat cr@p then the fat will fall off.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 08 Mar 12 13:37
elisjohn Joined: 15 Jun 03
Replies: 5318 07 Mar 12 19:40   


4.50 , rob, i was told in gym today redgrave was doing 2000m in 4.40.
 


You were told wrong.

World record is held by Rob Waddell (New Zealand) in 5:36.6 for 2k.

British is Graham Benton in 5:46
By:
elisjohn
When: 08 Mar 12 13:43
cheers rob, couldnt believe it myself when told
By:
HowieTheRookie.
When: 10 Mar 12 20:16
Just managed 8m04s, really pleased with that.  Although the effort needed kind of ruined the rest of my gym session, my heart was poundingLaugh

60kg on the Long Row
40kg on the Chest Press
By:
rob_dylan
When: 10 Mar 12 20:30
Wd howie.  Look at his list of records...

http://concept2.co.uk/records/2000_british

A twelve year old did 2k in about seven minutes and a bit.  That's depressing.
By:
pan07
When: 10 Mar 12 20:44
managed 7m52s last year not been to gym for 3 months and 8m20s other day.
a lot of it must b technique cause even if i go all out at start first 200m and kept the same pace(impossible)i cant get under 7min.
how the fck does a 12 year old do it for 2000m
By:
rob_dylan
When: 10 Mar 12 20:49
I'm gonna aim for the over seventies female lightweight british record time
By:
mesmerised
When: 11 Mar 12 00:03
rogerthebutler     Joined: 01 Mar 03
Replies: 5353 05 Mar 12 13:20 
Last championships, the winning time in the 50-54 age bracket (heavyweight mens) was 6:16.0

6.50 would have put you comfortably in the top 20 for this age group.




Well well, what do we have here, all this time up in the football forum you were coming across as a frustrated teenage virgin with your rants but it turns out your not far off being eligible for a free bus pass from the stateLaughLaugh
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 11 Mar 12 07:42
Oh sweet Mother of God, it's the world's most boring man.

Quick everyone - hide!
By:
elisjohn
When: 11 Mar 12 08:57
114.7 kilos this morning,   18 st o, near 2 stone off in less than 3 weeks, had a bit of a treat last night, small indian, she was gorgeousLaugh, and 2 large red wine .
By:
rob_dylan
When: 11 Mar 12 09:37
Wd Ellis, I'm hoping to lose two stone in about three months.  P1ssed off today, didn't drink yesterday, felt all fresh, bag packed for gym was planning on doing a good 21k run, just doing some last minute tidying in the kitchen, leant over and did my back in.  Felt like I'd ripped my trapezius in two.  Think this is me out of action till Tuesday now.
By:
elisjohn
When: 11 Mar 12 09:42
able to fit into some nice trousers now, instead of baggy cheap tracksuit bottomsGrin
By:
rob_dylan
When: 11 Mar 12 09:44
Latissimus dorsi I think I meant, not trapezius.
By:
elisjohn
When: 11 Mar 12 10:02
christ rob this forum is a joke, takes me 10 mins to get onto the classic screen, have to go in play market, im confused.  ConfusedConfusedConfusedCry
By:
squigs
When: 11 Mar 12 11:13
Interesting thread, wd to the people doing well here. From my own experiences if your looking to improve cardio fitness, don't go all out at the start targeting a time.  Look at Rotations or Strides per minute.

The fast a day or two a week is difficult. Look to eat the right food, think of your intake as a bank, you deposit food into it and you have to invest that into exercise. If you don't eat anything you won't be able to function.

If your on an exercise bike, start at the lowest resistance and aim for 80Rpm, and go up a level every minute it's tough in the last 10 minutes when your aiming for 80rpm at level 25 trust me.

Similar for a cross trainer, look to target maybe 120Rpm doing a level every minute.

Adjust for your level of fitness, start lower or start higher but 80Rpm would be fairly typical for a decent level of fitness.

Even if your not looking to bulk up, bring in a level of weight training, the more muscle you put on the easier it is to shed body fat and improved muscle tone will improve any cardiovascular fitness.
By:
d13phe
When: 11 Mar 12 12:58
"The fast a day or two a week is difficult. Look to eat the right food, think of your intake as a bank, you deposit food into it and you have to invest that into exercise. If you don't eat anything you won't be able to function. "

again this is wrong.  so much misinformation out there probably fuelled by the people who sell us food.

we aren't built to eat all the time.  our ancestors didn't so why should we?

once your brain gets used to the fact that you don't have to eat all the time you will be on the road to long term weight loss. 

I do my best workouts in a fasted state (i.e. no food) but I don't do longer than 20-30 mins.  so don't try to do steady state cardio in this state or you will bonk.

The point you make about a bank is a good analogy and this is the way i look at it but fasting twice a week makes it much easier to keep on top of this bank rather than watching what you eat for every meal which rarely works over the long term
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