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By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 01 Mar 12 12:52
Good photos, HH.

The first thing that catches the eye is obviously the fact that neither lady is wearing a helmet.
By:
Ken Masters
When: 01 Mar 12 13:02
I would be happy to install one in either.
By:
Ken Masters
When: 01 Mar 12 13:03
*Note to self, look at photos before commenting in future...
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 01 Mar 12 13:04
Laugh
Freudian post
By:
Over2.5
When: 01 Mar 12 13:06
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Ken Masters
When: 01 Mar 12 13:10
LOOK! IRANIAN SHIRTLESS MEN!

*I don't think anyone noticed*
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 01 Mar 12 13:12
Bloody hell, it is a fella.

Sad
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 01 Mar 12 13:14
and tbf the man has just dismounted and has his helmet over his shoulder.
By:
Ampleforth
When: 01 Mar 12 15:07
£1000 Carbon fibre racing bike
Pros
Go Faster, win races? 
Cons
It will not get you fitter than another type of bike,
It is more likely to get nicked,
Wheels bound to get buckled,
More frequent puctures,
Anything other than a newly tarmacced road will leave you fuming.
Regular maintenance required.
If you have more that 5% body fat and the wrong clothes, you look a complete ****.

£250 Mountain/Hybrid Bike
Pros =
Money saved
Improved fitness,
Less likely to get nicked,
You wont stress about scratches/slight damage.
Much fewer punctures.
Option to go off the beaten track.
Buy a New one every year
Cons =
It takes a slightly longer to get where you going,(balanced out by the lack of cleaning/maintenance and general lovemaking required of a top end bike)
You will get overtaken by people equally as unift as you on carbon fibre bikes, (however, if you understand that their apparent better fitness is down to the bike then you can keep you pride intact safe in the knowledge later in the day whilst you are relaxing and enjoying a pint, they will be frantically polishing their rims in preperation for their next 'race' with themselves)
By:
Ken Masters
When: 01 Mar 12 15:23
It's like you're inside my head.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 01 Mar 12 16:01
Mountain/hybrid bike:

Cons: it takes a lot, lot longer to get where you're going. And it's real hard work getting there, to the extent you might as well walk. A ridiculously inefficient machine that defeats the whole purpose of a bike.

You won't be stressed about damage or punctures simply because the bike will be gathering cobwebs in the garage after the first week.
By:
Ampleforth
When: 01 Mar 12 16:54
You can keep a steady 18  miles an hour on a mountain bike fairly easily. The average speed in the tour de france is something like 25mph.

10 miles on mountain bike = 33Min
10 Miles on Racing bike (tour de france) = 24 Min

My guess is most people are not up to Tour de France Standards, and if they are, I bet they can go faster that 18 MPH on a mountin bike.

the only difference between a mountain bike and racer is how quick you get there, as for it being harder work, isnt getting fit supposed to be hard work? and if it is 'harder work', you could do it for a shorter length of time on a mountain bike to get the same results, an added bonus IMO...
By:
History Maker
When: 01 Mar 12 17:41
Depends why you want it.

If you want it for going to work, or taking much stuff with you, get a mountain bike and put on touring tyres, and paniers if necessary.

If solely for exercise, you might as well get a racer. Remember that the Tour de France average includes some pretty brutal slopes - I assume that you ain't going to be climbing Mont Ventoux or Alpe d'Huez too often in your travels.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 01 Mar 12 17:44
My bro in law got flattened by a pensioner when she cut across him in the city. He wasn't seriously injured but had a few cuts and brazes.

She offered him £50 to pay for the bike to be fixed but he is a serious cycler and his bike costs over £1k. All he wanted was his bike fixed but she was having none of it.... he got £10k a year later and she took a dent in her no claims bonus.

To those that say don't wear a helmet, his helmet saved him from further injury, who cares if you look like a prat. People are saying about falling off your bike but it's not yourself you have to worry about, it's oher road users that aren't paying attention.
By:
Lix
When: 01 Mar 12 17:52
yeah. helmets are rubbish . never owned one.  Have cycled in london for 20 yrs. cant see how its dangerous if you're constantly looking out for everything and assuming they cant see you.
By:
SPYKES
When: 01 Mar 12 18:18
Look at Ribble cycles 2.5.

With Trek and alike you must be paying £100 quid because of the brand name.

Worth a shout. I bought there winter audex bike at about £630
By:
SPYKES
When: 01 Mar 12 18:19
*their
By:
Brother Mouzone
When: 01 Mar 12 18:28
*they're
By:
Over2.5
When: 01 Mar 12 19:00
Right folks an update... was talking to my neighbour asking him about bikes etc and said i was going to buy one tomorrow and he said he has a san remo racing bike spare and that i could take it. Is san remo any good, took a look at it there and it seems fine. will need brakes re adjusted and a clean. what we think ?
By:
Over2.5
When: 01 Mar 12 19:04
http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/claud-butler-san-remo-2011-blue-cheap/95243070


very similar to this
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 01 Mar 12 19:54
I bought a Kona Dew FS hibrid about 5 wks ago, i could'nt be more pleased with it.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 01 Mar 12 20:10
Sounds fine, Over2.5. Worth paying to have it properly asjusted, particularly the brakes, which are really difficult to reset properly yourself.

Regards mountain bikes (or, rather, "mountain bike-style bikes) vs racing bikes/road bikes ... Why on earth would anyone exhaust and frustrate themselves on a heavy machine as opposed to gliding to work on a lightweight on?

I just don't understand where all this "getting fit" idea suddenly comes from. I ride a bike because it's an ultra -economical and ultra-efficient way of getting from A to B. I do plenty of work that knackers me (or gets me fit, as we now call it), and I don't see the point of unnecessarily adding to it.

Unless you spend a grand-plus, you don't even get the strength or suspension of a genuine mountain bike. All you get is a cheap, heavy frame in the shape of a mountain bike. And you still have to clean and maintain it the same as any bike. Dried mud still wears down components whether they're attached to something called a mountain bike or a racing bike.
By:
Over2.5
When: 01 Mar 12 20:17
Actually the make is claud butler. ill def have to get the brakes fixed and also the seat is uncomfortable so im assuming i can buy a softer seat, this thing is like a brick
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 01 Mar 12 20:18
(Claud Butler is a good brand, Over2.5; I persuaded an ex to get a bike and she chose a CButler, though I can't remember the type; the point is that it was lightweight and she was absolutely astonished at what a pleasure cycling suddenly became, as opposed to the cheap, heavy mountain-bike style affairs which she'd ridden as a teenager.)
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 01 Mar 12 20:21
Just buy a gel saddle cover for £5 to £10. Make sure you try it over the existing saddle before parting with the readies - one size does not fit all, regardless of what they say on the wrapper.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 01 Mar 12 20:28
History Maker     01 Mar 12 17:41 
Depends why you want it.

If you want it for going to work, or taking much stuff with you, get a mountain bike and put on touring tyres, and paniers if necessary.

If solely for exercise, you might as well get a racer. Remember that the Tour de France average includes some pretty brutal slopes - I assume that you ain't going to be climbing Mont Ventoux or Alpe d'Huez too often in your travels.


This is what gets me about people who buy "mountain bikes". They somehow seem to think they're for climbing hills. In fact they're the exact opposite. The idea is they're heavy and robust for fast, off-road descents and ONLY descents.

To go uphill, you load a mountain bike into the back of a pick-up.

To cycle uphill, you select the lightest machine you can, i.e. the exact opposite of a mountain bike.
By:
d13phe
When: 01 Mar 12 20:39
i have a kona dr dew hybrid

really sturdy bike and is quick enough to overtake the fatties on £2k road bkes

cost about £500 on cycle scheme through work
By:
History Maker
When: 01 Mar 12 20:44
Sorry, may have given the wrong impression there. For fun, recreational stuff, go racer, for climbing or otherwise. For everyday stuff go mountain bike with touring tyres. Did Mont Ventoux on my mountain bike back when I was in good shape - I wouldn't recommend it!
By:
bongo
When: 01 Mar 12 21:19
Ampleforth - I'd like to nick your contribution and put it on a poster.

I'd guess that almost all the classic NCN routes, especially the Coast to Coast, are best enjoyed on a no-suspension £250 Mountain/Hybrid Bike with a 1 inch plus rim.
By:
Over2.5
When: 01 Mar 12 23:12
Bike is scrubbing up well Grin
By:
rob_dylan
When: 01 Mar 12 23:21
Just to clarify, I,d,ve loved to have bought a thin wheeled ( or whatever you call them) bike, but they seemed to start at five hundred quid.  And that was at halfords.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 02 Mar 12 07:39
Please go back to one of the first posts by me at 29 Feb 12 09:28.

This is re my Claud Butler 'Levante'.........
By:
d13phe
When: 02 Mar 12 11:29
i believe the chris boardman bikes are not too bad and they are quite cheap.

you can also look to buy one second hand and take it to your local bike shop to get fitted and up to date.

the only thing worth any money on a bike is the frame.  the rest can all be updated pretty cheaply.

if you can find a good second hand bike with a decent frame then your laughing.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 02 Mar 12 11:43
The drive set (chain and sprockets and idlers) can be shockingly expensive to replace.

That's why I make such a big fuss about keeping them clean and free of dirt.
By:
d13phe
When: 02 Mar 12 11:44
stop lying screaming

any excuse to clean your bike Laugh
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 02 Mar 12 12:11
If every game was as manic and profitable as that Aus vs Sri Lanka match that just finished, I wouldn't bat an eyelid over shelling out over a hundred quid for a new drivetrain.

The trouble is that if you don't keep the parts clean, and the chain wears down, then it wears down the teeth on the sprockets as well, so you have to replace the whole mechanism
By:
geoff m
When: 02 Mar 12 12:32
Ampleforth agree with your post wholeheartedly re cost/purchasing.
However for a newcomer attaining an average of 18 mph fairly easily(MTB) is surely way off beam?
I would imagine alot of club cyclists would find that sort of average speed difficult to maintain on a heavy knobbly tyred machine
By:
Aunty Post
When: 02 Mar 12 12:51
geoff, I typed a long response to this earlier and hit refresh instead of post!

Your comment was just part of it, and that it isn't just heavy rolling resistance, and weight
that is the problem, but also totally inappropriate gearing

Mountain bikes were designed for one specific purpose only.
By:
Ampleforth
When: 02 Mar 12 16:12
you are perhaps right about the 18mph, I plucked that figure from when  I used to cycle to work on my mountain bike 3-4 time a week (6.4 miles each way) and on a good weather day with no wind I would average about 18mph, and there were a few decent hills on route. However I admit I did swap knobbly tyres for a thinner hybrid type tyre. I kept the knobbly tyres for should I ever go off roading, but never actually got round to swapping them back and never really found the need to either, the hybrid tryes took me everywhere i needed to go quite easily including some fairly rough off road stuff....

However the time comparison is probably not far off, most people couldnt average 25mph no matter how light a racer they bought. Most of the weight being transported is the person sitting on it. People would be better off going for a good sh!t before they set off rather than spending £200 on a carbon fibre saddle that take a couple of ounces of the bikes weight.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 02 Mar 12 16:21
Rather than delay things, before they set off, could they not do a Sally (Gunnel) and
do it in the saddle?

Might also increase the comfort a little too!
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