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Crisp77
12 Feb 12 19:57
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What's the law on this?

I nipped into a Tesco Express on Friday to pickup a paper. No one was on the two tills so I used the self service computer.

I now think I should have left the 45p on the counter as an act of defiance against this soul less organisation. Would this be legal, if I just walked out with the paper after leaving cash on an unguarded counter? An old fashoined newsagent wouldn't batter an eyelid.
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Report Aspro February 12, 2012 8:03 PM GMT
I went to Sainsburys on Wednesday to buy a bottle of Irish Whiskey for a colleague who was leaving, boxed and all. On the way out I decided to use the self-service checkout where I swiped the box, paid for my goods and then put it in a bag and walked out... as you do!

As I walked out the doors the alarms started going off; the bloody security tag was affixed to the bottle, inside the box!!!
Report Nilsson Schmilsson February 12, 2012 8:07 PM GMT
not allowed to buy drink at them things
Report Crisp77 February 12, 2012 8:07 PM GMT
Grin

I don't know how they get away with it from a licensing point of view.
Report David Fishwick Minibus Sales February 12, 2012 8:07 PM GMT
got some nice wine and cheese the other day. all free.
Report Crisp77 February 12, 2012 8:09 PM GMT
Shouldn't the Whisky have been programmed into the self service computer then?
Report Aspro February 12, 2012 8:10 PM GMT
Well I did Nilsson.. went through with no problems but leaving the shop was another matter!
Report Aspro February 12, 2012 8:11 PM GMT
Strange things was that I went straight back into the shop and they removed the tag but didn't ask to see my receipt... food for thought next time ;)
Report mange February 12, 2012 8:12 PM GMT
need an attendent to OK it......................could be anyone!
Report good value losers February 12, 2012 8:44 PM GMT
self service checkouts are fantastic, use them whenever available. no more groceries covered in cheap perfume from the checkout girl's hands.
Report Fenway February 12, 2012 9:25 PM GMT
The amount of time it takes the attendant to come and verify that you are over 18, you might as well wait behind a family of six doing the monthly shop.
Report Aspro February 12, 2012 9:33 PM GMT
You'll be surprised how quick someone arrives when the alarms go off!
Report Ivor February 12, 2012 9:43 PM GMT
The answer to crisps original question is .. yes; unwise, unwelcome, unpopular but not illegal. Theft is the removal of goods with the intention to 'permanently deprive'.
That was neither your intention nor your action -
Ifor's cwrt finds you, hypo pathetically, NOT GUILTY!
Report Crisp77 February 12, 2012 11:07 PM GMT
Cheers Ivor.

I will gladly leave money lying around the checkout area of Tesco's in future.

You will also be my one phone call.
Report Aunty Post February 13, 2012 3:01 PM GMT
Best person for good advice on this one is AWT!
Report Aunty Post February 13, 2012 3:04 PM GMT
Actually are they not encouraging theft, as they set up these self service
facilities, and ask people to swipe their goods!
Report Ivor February 13, 2012 3:08 PM GMT
pun intended?
Report postmannick February 13, 2012 3:23 PM GMT
how long would it take for some little toe rag to snitch your money off the counter not long around my local
Report Slippy Blue February 13, 2012 3:50 PM GMT
They'll have us digging potatoes out of their fields out the back next and calling it the great' dig your own' promotion.
Report Aunty Post February 13, 2012 4:09 PM GMT
Slippy, where I go I could do with having a key to open up!

There is always a queue of early birds (me included) who like to be able to park
with no trouble and get away before 08:30 when the pace is packed!

They never open on time so often people are standing in wind and rain and five minutes
late seems to be acceptable to the staff responsible.

Whilst we are at it I need a key for the trolley park, as on one occasion when they were
five minutes late opening, they couldn't find a key to release the chains.
Believe me this took over five minutes more and some folk just stood and waited!
I was inside with a basket until they got sorted out.

I had strong words with the person responsible but he seemed to think it was a huge joke.

I don't know how the ultimate management responded to my later phone call. Probably not at
all as nothing seems to have changed!
Report Slippy Blue February 13, 2012 4:24 PM GMT
Aunty, to have to wait to get a trolley is just completely unforgiveable behaviour. No human being should have to endure such a hardship especially when it's so chilly at the moment.

I did go into a Tesco Express at 7.00 a.m. a few weeks ago. The shop was open but there were a couple of Waynetta types running around with a mop and bucket. I said to the spotty bloke in the ill fitting suit, "the shop is open and stinks of disinfectant and the floors are wet, I could slip over and break my neck. The cleaners should have been out of here ages ago."
He didn't say what he was thinkinking but he didn't need to, it was obvious Sad Dreadful management.
Report scandanavian_haven February 13, 2017 10:04 PM GMT
What annoys me is when you've finished paying, and your fidgeting with the bag trying to detatch it from the other bags and the machine insists on saying "please take your items", give me 2 seconds at least Cry

Also, there are bar codes on all of the bags in Sainsburys and I've never ever scanned it, I just add bag at the end and it trusts me.

The worst thing is the dreaded "unexpected item in bagging area", usually happens when your faffing about with the bag in the first place trying to get it open, when you put a bunch of bananas down or if the Saturday/Sunday papers are too heavy they seem to assume you've stuffed something inside, tbf the staff never bother to check, I don't think they can be doing with any confrontation, or don't care.

I imagine supermarkets thought they'd be saving themselves money by losing staff and putting the machines in, yet probably negated completely by those that enjoy 5 finger discounts.

A thieves dream.
Report Crisp77 February 13, 2017 10:09 PM GMT
The one that got away from spelling and grammar checker Love
Report screaming from beneaththewaves February 13, 2017 10:16 PM GMT
An old fashoined newsagent wouldn't batter an eyelid.

A fish and chip shop might, if you got too close to the frier.
Report donny osmond February 13, 2017 10:18 PM GMT
unexpected item in bagging area Sad


i like to set the language to polish , and loud, when that happens ....
Report Clouseau February 13, 2017 10:23 PM GMT
scandanavian_haven 13 Feb 17 22:04
What annoys me is when you've finished paying, and your fidgeting with the bag trying to detatch it from the other bags and the machine insists on saying "please take your items", give me 2 seconds at least


Auld woman alert... you scan your bag first and then proceed to place your subsequently scanned items into said bag. Otherwise you are picking the fooking things up twice and causing a ruckus for the poor mugs waiting for you to fook off out of the way so they can have a go.Mischief
Report betting_masta February 13, 2017 10:40 PM GMT
the best one is putting meat on the scale and punching onions into the checkout so you get a £10 ribeye steak for 45p.

Not that I've done it.
Report Capt__F February 13, 2017 10:42 PM GMT
all done by weight

Worral the daddy
Report donny osmond February 13, 2017 10:45 PM GMT
sainsburys reckon they sell a lot of carrots on the self service tills !
Report trilby22 February 13, 2017 10:48 PM GMT
Barcodes.

If what is placed on the weighing table doesn't compute to what was programmed in, you get the message.

I used to work for Siemens doing Tesco's computers.  Not much will have changed.
Report Coachbuster February 13, 2017 10:49 PM GMT
The amount of time it takes the attendant to come and verify that you are over 18, you might as well wait behind a family of six doing the monthly shop.
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use the fingerprint scanning option -   it will let you through next time without the need for an assistant
Report trilby22 February 13, 2017 10:51 PM GMT

Feb 13, 2017 -- 10:40PM, betting_masta wrote:


the best one is putting meat on the scale and punching onions into the checkout so you get a £10 ribeye steak for 45p. Not that I've done it.


Excited

Report trilby22 February 13, 2017 10:52 PM GMT
There's gonna be a revolution!
Report bigH February 13, 2017 10:53 PM GMT
cut my weekly shopping bill by about £50 since using the self service tills
Report trilby22 February 13, 2017 10:55 PM GMT
Don't tell Angela Merkel and her Immy mob, ffs Whoops
Report casemoney February 13, 2017 10:56 PM GMT
Only seen Battered Fish in Tescos  ,No eyelids tbh ..
Report trilby22 February 13, 2017 10:57 PM GMT
I can see Siemens IT engineers being extremely busy the next few weeks Laugh
Report trilby22 February 13, 2017 11:00 PM GMT
Not that I'll be telling ... but who knows who reads these boards?
Report scandanavian_haven February 14, 2017 9:00 AM GMT
Auld woman alert... you scan your bag first and then proceed to place your subsequently scanned items into said bag. Otherwise you are picking the fooking things up twice and causing a ruckus for the poor mugs waiting for you to fook off out of the way so they can have a go.Mischief


I actually started to do this but it made no differencec, in fact the unexpected item in bagging area announcement started to come up before I'd start or it would make me jump and say "are you using your own bag".
Report khyber kim February 14, 2017 12:58 PM GMT
Apparently this bloke explained that he had read on Betfair chit chat that it was possible to put meat on the scale and punch in onions into the checkout  and get a £10 ribeye steak for 45p Shocked

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2859998/dramatic-video-tesco-staff-manhandling...
Report Platini February 14, 2017 1:01 PM GMT
I've never used them. I refuse to use them.

Even if one day, they do away with all check out staff altogether, I still won't use them.
By that time, I'll be getting my groceries delivered by drone anyway Laugh
Report Just Checking February 14, 2017 1:17 PM GMT
Of course you're supposed to be able to buy booze at them. A light will go on at the till to alert the attendant either then or at payment time to come and approve the purchase. They will either then remove security tags there and then or you should swing by the attendant and get them to remove it as you leave, it depends how busy they are, quite often the attendants are run off their feet.
Report mememe February 14, 2017 1:51 PM GMT
When the kids were small, Mrs mememe who's as honest as the day is long, used to give 'em sweets as soon as she went into the supermarket to keep 'em quiet while she shopped.
By the time she reached checkout, sweets gone.

I thought about taking my portable bbq in and having a picnic in the hardware aisle, but Mrs mememe said I'd set off the fire alarm.
Report Crisp77 February 14, 2017 1:54 PM GMT
Unlucky mate. You try a bit of Valentine's Day romance and she throws it back in your face. Sad
Report screaming from beneaththewaves February 14, 2017 2:28 PM GMT
Not many wives lucky enough to have a husband who still offer them romance, never mind the sort that sets the fire alarm off.
Report mememe February 14, 2017 2:43 PM GMT
Tried to get her to like steak tartare and offered to take her round Waitrose last August as it was her birthday.

Finished up with cold chicken legs at M&S.

Still, we had a good day out.
Report bix February 14, 2017 5:12 PM GMT
In W H Smith I bought a magazine and used the self service checkout. I put £20 note in but no change came out. I made a big fuss about it but staff couldn't help. Eventually got the manager down who told me the machines never make a mistake like that and he was not allowed to open the machine until balancing up at the end of the week. After more fuss he agreed to open machine only to tell me there was nothing wrong and I could not have put a £20 note in. Obviously I told him I didn't want the magazine now but did want my £20 back. Manager says when he balances machine up at end of week he will let me know if it's £20 over. Fortunately it was Friday so I didn't have to wait long. He phoned me and told me the machine (which never makes a mistake) was £19.50 over so he presumed this was my £20 and there had been another error of 50p. I then had to go back to the shop to get the £20. Good job it hadn't happened on a Monday and it had been my last £20.  Same machines are used at the airports so think what you'd do if you were waiting to catch a flight at an airport along way from home.
Report mememe February 14, 2017 5:17 PM GMT
Crikey, if it was a Monday you'd be stuck in the airport all week waiting for them to cash up.

Tom Hanks once did this, but it was a lot longer before he got his change ...

can't remeber the film ... The Changeling??
Report screaming from beneaththewaves February 14, 2017 5:26 PM GMT
Was that the one with no background music on account of losing the score?
Report doantwin2easy February 14, 2017 6:08 PM GMT
I saw someone literally shouting for help across the supermarket last week, when there was no-one around to green light him.

"Can anyone help me?" at the top of his voice.

I suspected his mental health issues were only minor, so had a brief chuckle.

But one day someone will beat on these misguided robots, FOBT style.
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