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Will we find the reasons for his suicide in this untold story.
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No, not particularly, RD.
You have to understand the role of the coroner and the verdicts available to him.
I can see why people think it's an unsatisfactory explanation, but let's be honest, this thread is just rubber-necking. It's no more or less repugnant than your average thread, but there's no genuine public interest element here, it's just staring at the crash.
Pretending otherwise is dishonest.
You have to understand the role of the coroner and the verdicts available to him.
I can see why people think it's an unsatisfactory explanation, but let's be honest, this thread is just rubber-necking. It's no more or less repugnant than your average thread, but there's no genuine public interest element here, it's just staring at the crash.
Pretending otherwise is dishonest.
will be front page story in the newspaper tommorow are the people who but newspapers scum
there's no genuine public interest element here
We don't know that because the reasons for his hanging himself have seemingly not been determined.
We don't know that because the reasons for his hanging himself have seemingly not been determined.
It seemed unusual to me. Cant argue with the rubber necking thing, just very odd, hard not to be curious.
Facts is just a bare faced hypocrite.
Facts is just a bare faced hypocrite.
will be front page headlines tommoz the sale of newspapers will rise for this and the daily mail has already eluded to the fact there is more to come out in this still untold story on their website
Im not sure what more the coroner could have said on the case. No note, no e mail etc.
The coroner said "the evidence does not sufficiently determine whether this was intentional or accidental".
The coroner said "the evidence does not sufficiently determine whether this was intentional or accidental".
daz550 30 Jan 12 22:42
will be front page headlines tommoz the sale of newspapers will rise for this and the daily mail has already eluded to the fact there is more to come out in this still untold story on their website
...well there's a fcking surprise -from the scum of a rag
will be front page headlines tommoz the sale of newspapers will rise for this and the daily mail has already eluded to the fact there is more to come out in this still untold story on their website
...well there's a fcking surprise -from the scum of a rag
angel
To me 2 question remain unanswered
1) why the threats to commit suicide
2)what was the argument about she did leave to cool down she said and returned at 6am something big must have gone on why wasnt this revealed at the inquest
To me 2 question remain unanswered
1) why the threats to commit suicide
2)what was the argument about she did leave to cool down she said and returned at 6am something big must have gone on why wasnt this revealed at the inquest
rob_dylan
One can have an opinion about one subject - and a different one about another. You cannot generalise !
Rubber necking is the truth. You don't need to be curious - look what it did to the cat!
One can have an opinion about one subject - and a different one about another. You cannot generalise !
Rubber necking is the truth. You don't need to be curious - look what it did to the cat!
facts
90% of the population are scum acording to you its all the same old childish drone
90% of the population are scum acording to you its all the same old childish drone
daz500
Stop dancing on this poor guys grave. Let it go ffs !!
Stop dancing on this poor guys grave. Let it go ffs !!
Daz
Those questions are personal between Gary and his wife. Are you married?
Those questions are personal between Gary and his wife. Are you married?
daz550 30 Jan 12 22:51
facts
90% of the population are scum acording to you its all the same old childish drone
90% do not read trash like the Daily Mail hth.If you mean by childish drone, a sense of outrage at the lack of dignity,respect and decorum being shown on this thread(mainly by you), then I am guilty.
What's your excuse ?
facts
90% of the population are scum acording to you its all the same old childish drone
90% do not read trash like the Daily Mail hth.If you mean by childish drone, a sense of outrage at the lack of dignity,respect and decorum being shown on this thread(mainly by you), then I am guilty.
What's your excuse ?
facts i heard you say this before and low life scum rubber neckers blah blah you are one sour bitter twisted individual hiding behind your keyboard with your same old tired statements overe and over nothing constructive to say ever.
Exactly right, AG.
He isn't there to titillate the public, he can only try to determine the cause and circumstances of the death.
He isn't there to titillate the public, he can only try to determine the cause and circumstances of the death.
oh - and your constant contributions to your dire thread is being constructuive is it ? God help us !!
You cannot generalise
Christ on a bike facts, talk about turning it on it's head... My whole point was that you were generalising. You've got form.
Christ on a bike facts, talk about turning it on it's head... My whole point was that you were generalising. You've got form.
Angel
I take you point about them been private.
But the inquest is public so i would have thought she was obliged to give these detail in the statement given her husband had commited suicide.
I take you point about them been private.
But the inquest is public so i would have thought she was obliged to give these detail in the statement given her husband had commited suicide.
What i am trying to say is that the coroner or the police need to know what was said. She has said he talked about suicide a few days before and they had an argument. It makes no difference to proceedings what the dialogue was. Its personal and Louise will keep it that way. And why shouldn`t she?
YOU ARE STRANGELY staying on here facts for some reason why waste your time if you think this whole thing is pointless if its not just to say......ah its all wrong you just scum rubber neckers just wasting yours and everyones time
*What i am trying to say is that the coroner or the police do not need to know what was said
Facts 30 Jan 12 22:58
I do not generalise.
Blimey, you kept that quiet.
I do not generalise.
Blimey, you kept that quiet.
daz500
to try and get people to see what a scumbag you are.
to try and get people to see what a scumbag you are.
Ayedo
25 Jan 12 23:27 Joined: 17 Feb 03 | Topic/replies: 284 | Blogger: Ayedo's blog
I'll tell you why
So many people on the football forum told you, you were a sad fcuker, that you deided to bring it over here.
You seem to be getting off, on the whole thing.
I'll say no more.
^THIS^
weirdo
25 Jan 12 23:27 Joined: 17 Feb 03 | Topic/replies: 284 | Blogger: Ayedo's blog
I'll tell you why
So many people on the football forum told you, you were a sad fcuker, that you deided to bring it over here.
You seem to be getting off, on the whole thing.
I'll say no more.
^THIS^
weirdo
Angel
Agree maybe you have the a good point. but the argument would have the reason for the suicide possibly therefore is she trying to hide something?
Agree maybe you have the a good point. but the argument would have the reason for the suicide possibly therefore is she trying to hide something?
'......therefore is she trying to hide something?.....
ffs ! Have you no shame ???
ffs ! Have you no shame ???
will be on the front page of the daily mirror and daily star tomorrow
Daz
Thousands of women and men have arguments with their partners who then go on and commit suicide. The guilt will be carried for a long time. Nothing will bring that person back. As long as the police/coroner rule out foul play, its end of case. The family carry on grieving and try and get their lives back on track. Dialogue is irrelevant because no matter what words where said, it makes no difference to the case.
Thousands of women and men have arguments with their partners who then go on and commit suicide. The guilt will be carried for a long time. Nothing will bring that person back. As long as the police/coroner rule out foul play, its end of case. The family carry on grieving and try and get their lives back on track. Dialogue is irrelevant because no matter what words where said, it makes no difference to the case.
Angel
I agree to a large point but i have seen other inquest verdicts and they have given much more specific information ie it would be important to say what the argument was about because circumstances leading to his death would be dependant on the nature of the argument no mention of this. Also why the threat to commit suicide.
All the main stream media are saying the true reasons for his death remain largely unanswered
I agree to a large point but i have seen other inquest verdicts and they have given much more specific information ie it would be important to say what the argument was about because circumstances leading to his death would be dependant on the nature of the argument no mention of this. Also why the threat to commit suicide.
All the main stream media are saying the true reasons for his death remain largely unanswered
is this the official chit chat detective agency thread? Odd that both were out the house and kids were inside?
the story was she didnt have her keys andshe didnt want to wake the kids up
sleeping in car on the drive wouldnt have been my first choice, would have at least put it in garage
Not only is rubbernecking not disreputable, it is in fact highly advisable. Taking an interest in how people come to harm is a vital survival strategy and helps you to minimize the likelihood that you too will come to harm in the same way.
So, I'm driving along and I pass a grisly looking RTA - I can ignore it and carry on my merry way, unchanged in my habits and behaviours. I prefer to slow down and take in as much information about what may have happened as possible - (not withstanding the requirement to be safe with respect to other road-users by not slowing dangerously) - so I can critically assess, and adjust if necessary, my own driving.
So, I'm driving along and I pass a grisly looking RTA - I can ignore it and carry on my merry way, unchanged in my habits and behaviours. I prefer to slow down and take in as much information about what may have happened as possible - (not withstanding the requirement to be safe with respect to other road-users by not slowing dangerously) - so I can critically assess, and adjust if necessary, my own driving.
Daz
If Gary had been upset 4 days before his death because he felt his marriage was on the rocks, then the privacy and sensitivity of the dialogue will be respected. The police had no need to overly pressurise Louise into all the dialogue, because they have seen unstable relationships a million times over. If there was foul play then they would feel the need for every detail. This is not a murder inquiry.
If Gary had been upset 4 days before his death because he felt his marriage was on the rocks, then the privacy and sensitivity of the dialogue will be respected. The police had no need to overly pressurise Louise into all the dialogue, because they have seen unstable relationships a million times over. If there was foul play then they would feel the need for every detail. This is not a murder inquiry.
Daz
Yes the mainstream media are saying the true reasons for his death remain largely unanswered because Gary never left a note. They are not saying there is a conspiracy but just that the only witness to the death was the victim.
Yes the mainstream media are saying the true reasons for his death remain largely unanswered because Gary never left a note. They are not saying there is a conspiracy but just that the only witness to the death was the victim.
Agree angel
ths is one way of looking at it so what you say his she didnt tell them everything rightly or wrongly fair play to her she is probably blaming herself and feeling all sorts of emotions right now.
Personally I think there has been some clever work some were along the line either she has been advised not to say certain things or they have choose to leave certain things out of the inquest findings...rightly or wrongly
ths is one way of looking at it so what you say his she didnt tell them everything rightly or wrongly fair play to her she is probably blaming herself and feeling all sorts of emotions right now.
Personally I think there has been some clever work some were along the line either she has been advised not to say certain things or they have choose to leave certain things out of the inquest findings...rightly or wrongly
Yes. Nothing will bring him back. Louise feels guilty and is hurting and the boys need protecting from it all. The dialogue will not help the healing process. When couples argue, sometimes they say things they dont really mean. It would benefit nobody making it public. I am sure that she has been advised on what to reveal and what not to. It makes no difference but the gutter press will be miffed.
Angel
If you look through all the questions mrs speed was asked at the inquest some were personal yet he failed to ask the why the reason for the argument strange i feel.
For example he asked about their movement the day before and if there were strains on the relationship
I find his mothers comments interesting not sure what they mean
“Looking back, Gary was always a glass-half-empty person, certainly no optimist,” her statement added.
Read More http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2012/01/30/gary-speed-talked-ab...
If you look through all the questions mrs speed was asked at the inquest some were personal yet he failed to ask the why the reason for the argument strange i feel.
For example he asked about their movement the day before and if there were strains on the relationship
I find his mothers comments interesting not sure what they mean
“Looking back, Gary was always a glass-half-empty person, certainly no optimist,” her statement added.
Read More http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2012/01/30/gary-speed-talked-ab...
His mother knew him best, she was basically saying Gary was not a happy go lucky type. Often self critical etc.
Louise said the argument was something about nothing. Which means a trivial start to the argument which happens often in relationships. Again its irrelevant Daz.
Louise said the argument was something about nothing. Which means a trivial start to the argument which happens often in relationships. Again its irrelevant Daz.
angel
but she slept in the car and says sheneeded to cool off sounds like a blazing row to me
but she slept in the car and says sheneeded to cool off sounds like a blazing row to me
Me and my wife have in the past had arguments over something daft like her moving my mobile phone charger, then she cant find it, 10 mins later im in my car off to mates because the argument has got messy.
It is irrelevant what the argument was about. Perhaps she was having a go at him for jumping in the pool or the way he was talking to her. It matters not a jot.
It is irrelevant what the argument was about. Perhaps she was having a go at him for jumping in the pool or the way he was talking to her. It matters not a jot.
angel
but if the argument was irrelevant why not just say to avoid the speculation which will arise
but if the argument was irrelevant why not just say to avoid the speculation which will arise
Sometimes you cant remember what starts an argument, it can develop without either really knowing what started it, generally a misplaced word can start it. Communication breakdown is the biggest reason for marriage problems. Louise said`it was something over nothing`. Just accept that Daz. That is marriage for you.
Angel
we will have to see what develops here be interested to know were the rags will take this one if they will be prepared to let sleeping dogs lye so to speak maybe i just have a suspisious nature but something we are just not been told here for my money.
we will have to see what develops here be interested to know were the rags will take this one if they will be prepared to let sleeping dogs lye so to speak maybe i just have a suspisious nature but something we are just not been told here for my money.
angel not only this mr inquest man insults us by saying his death could be accidental
Did his mobile phone also type the words I AM THINKING OF SUICIDE when it was in his pocket. I know mine rings people when its not switched off properly but text a suicide threat mmmmm....long shot maybe toO much of a coinsidance that he sends a suicide threat 4 days before......then an argument occurs the day before.....then he accidentaly walks into a noose neck first .......come on mr inquest man you do the math
Did his mobile phone also type the words I AM THINKING OF SUICIDE when it was in his pocket. I know mine rings people when its not switched off properly but text a suicide threat mmmmm....long shot maybe toO much of a coinsidance that he sends a suicide threat 4 days before......then an argument occurs the day before.....then he accidentaly walks into a noose neck first .......come on mr inquest man you do the math
pretty sure he hinted that lord lucan was involved too
she is sleeping in the car he falls asleep in the garage with a cable round his neck ...
how can anyone fall asleep and hang without waking up ,he was barely over the drink drive
limit ,so drink not a factor regarding falling asleep , was he standing on a stool ? even then
with your hands free you would not hang imo .Something very strange about this case ,Alan
Shearer said he cant understand it all ,he is not the only one ....
how can anyone fall asleep and hang without waking up ,he was barely over the drink drive
limit ,so drink not a factor regarding falling asleep , was he standing on a stool ? even then
with your hands free you would not hang imo .Something very strange about this case ,Alan
Shearer said he cant understand it all ,he is not the only one ....
if he really loved louise, and she drives off in middle of night, perhaps to meet lover , i cant think of much worse things than that , garry already mentioned suicide, and now knowing my wife is out getting shagged , many would kill themselves
Gary Speed talks about killing himself and noone seems to know why? The Speeds row to the extent Mrs S leaves the house in the middle of the night, hours later her husband is found hanged and she can't remember what the argument was about. All very strange. A man is dead can't just dismiss it as a private matter.
God almighty there's a proliferation of salivating tabloid newspaper readers on here.Led by the weirdo daz500 - who has a somewhat unhealthy obsession with this case.Have you nothing positive in your little lives that you can focus positively on and get joy from. Or is this meddling - blindly and with incredible ignorance - into the mess of a private person's life( after he's dead),what gives you excitement ?
Absolutely pathetic.
Absolutely pathetic.
FACTS
You sound like the bitter and twisted weirdo to me take a look in the mirror.
Why do you come on here and you are a regular on the tap blog seems like you too are obsessed with throwing around comments at people who are trying to post messages about a subject they might find interesting maybe its your obsession which is a worry.
Not only this you come over as areal headcase too. You probably just a quite little mouse in public but you like the security of your keyboard to hide behind while you post your utter meaningless tripe.
You sound like the bitter and twisted weirdo to me take a look in the mirror.
Why do you come on here and you are a regular on the tap blog seems like you too are obsessed with throwing around comments at people who are trying to post messages about a subject they might find interesting maybe its your obsession which is a worry.
Not only this you come over as areal headcase too. You probably just a quite little mouse in public but you like the security of your keyboard to hide behind while you post your utter meaningless tripe.
A t
well put true
elisjohn
obviously more to all this than she is letting on. I think she has the answers.
By the way when someone like alan shearer who was a close friend on garys says after the inquest. I still cant understand why he did it this is strong proof there is still a mystery to be solved.
well put true
elisjohn
obviously more to all this than she is letting on. I think she has the answers.
By the way when someone like alan shearer who was a close friend on garys says after the inquest. I still cant understand why he did it this is strong proof there is still a mystery to be solved.
I bet Daz is a big hit with ladies,no proof mind just my hunch
Daz
Gary was probably fretting about his marriage being on the rocks. He probably mentioned ending his life if he felt his family was on the verge of breaking up. Loads of blokes feel the same way. This explains why he sent the text 4 days prior. Nothing odd here.
Then 4 days later again he feels frustrated because of another argument. He internally interprets it very negatively and feeling desperate and unbalanced he did what he did. It happens all the time Daz around the world.
I think that you are now desperate to fit your own pieces into the jigsaw. The coroner cant be 100% certain Gary deliberately meant to kill himself. Yes he tied the cable around his neck but did he slip into unconsciousness as his blood temperature dropped etc. Nobody will ever know.
Gary was probably fretting about his marriage being on the rocks. He probably mentioned ending his life if he felt his family was on the verge of breaking up. Loads of blokes feel the same way. This explains why he sent the text 4 days prior. Nothing odd here.
Then 4 days later again he feels frustrated because of another argument. He internally interprets it very negatively and feeling desperate and unbalanced he did what he did. It happens all the time Daz around the world.
I think that you are now desperate to fit your own pieces into the jigsaw. The coroner cant be 100% certain Gary deliberately meant to kill himself. Yes he tied the cable around his neck but did he slip into unconsciousness as his blood temperature dropped etc. Nobody will ever know.
angel i agree with most of what you say but i do not agree with acidental bit this i find not believable i tell you why
Did his mobile phone also type the words I AM THINKING OF SUICIDE when it was in his pocket. I know mine rings people when its not switched off properly but text a suicide threat mmmmm....long shot maybe toO much of a coinsidance that he sends a suicide threat 4 days before acidentaly . The an argument takes place.......then he finds himself accidentaly walking into a noose.......come on mr inquest man you do the math
Did his mobile phone also type the words I AM THINKING OF SUICIDE when it was in his pocket. I know mine rings people when its not switched off properly but text a suicide threat mmmmm....long shot maybe toO much of a coinsidance that he sends a suicide threat 4 days before acidentaly . The an argument takes place.......then he finds himself accidentaly walking into a noose.......come on mr inquest man you do the math
Deeply unpleasant thread.
I hate the phrase, but there is no clearer way of expressing how I feel about all this unedifying salivating over the prurient details of what is a tragic and essentially private matter, but some people really do need to 'get a life'. Shame on you.
I hate the phrase, but there is no clearer way of expressing how I feel about all this unedifying salivating over the prurient details of what is a tragic and essentially private matter, but some people really do need to 'get a life'. Shame on you.
disagee desmond
morbid curiosity maybe.
but human nature to want to find answers in such a case.
morbid curiosity maybe.
but human nature to want to find answers in such a case.
Daz you have not understood the coroners report.
He is not saying the cable accidentally positioned itself, but that Gary fixed it there and sat with it tightened. Had he meant to release it ? that is what the coroner is not certain about.
Why is the text msg so strange to you. In the real world it is not uncommon.
He is not saying the cable accidentally positioned itself, but that Gary fixed it there and sat with it tightened. Had he meant to release it ? that is what the coroner is not certain about.
Why is the text msg so strange to you. In the real world it is not uncommon.
A man that you didn't know, hanged himself for reasons that are difficult to establish. Which, although tragic, is not all that unusual. Why do you care? Why would anyone 'want to find answers', outside of his family and friends?
Move along, there is nothing here to see.
Move along, there is nothing here to see.
mmmmmm......angel it would guess he did given the other evidence ie the text message and the argument think this is pretty concrete evidence
desmond
your messages are quite mild compared to others.
I take you point but if you dont like the subject why click on link surely it would be better to show your distgust by not getting involved. That said i dont say you are wrong o have your opinion
your messages are quite mild compared to others.
I take you point but if you dont like the subject why click on link surely it would be better to show your distgust by not getting involved. That said i dont say you are wrong o have your opinion
But the coroner can not be 100% which is why he gave the verdict he did. What do you think the coroner should have done?
It's very difficult to show ones disgust without getting involved! Nonetheless, by your reckoning around 60,000,000 in the UK alone are disgusted with you.
There is another thread in here about someone found hanged, it seems that he wasn't a particularly nice chap, yet you've not commented in the hour that it's been up. Why not? I would assume that you would be just as interested, he was in police custody you know - plenty to get ones teeth into. I suggest you take your vile speculation and defamatory suggestions over there.
It's rare that I get dragged into name calling on here, at the end of the day I don't care enough to lose my cool over the actions of the likes of you. But boy, oh boy, are you testing my resolve.
There is another thread in here about someone found hanged, it seems that he wasn't a particularly nice chap, yet you've not commented in the hour that it's been up. Why not? I would assume that you would be just as interested, he was in police custody you know - plenty to get ones teeth into. I suggest you take your vile speculation and defamatory suggestions over there.
It's rare that I get dragged into name calling on here, at the end of the day I don't care enough to lose my cool over the actions of the likes of you. But boy, oh boy, are you testing my resolve.
So only if a sucide note is left or someone sees the actual act can a coroner return a suicide verdict ?
Grow up Desmond
Grow up Desmond
angel
so the coroner is saying he could have tied a noose around his neck and accidentaly fell asleep a yes this very likely ..........mmmmmmmmmmm
so the coroner is saying he could have tied a noose around his neck and accidentaly fell asleep a yes this very likely ..........mmmmmmmmmmm
desmond
you have a short fuseand your comments are childish
grow up
you have a short fuseand your comments are childish
grow up
Well, that's me told 
As you were.................
As you were.................
k now move on to something you are interested in rather than spoil it for the ones who might want to discuss the events properly.
It dont like things i watch on t.v so i change the channel.
It dont like things i watch on t.v so i change the channel.
Daz
Its not about whether or not it was likely, if he slipped into unconsciousness with the cable tight around his neck.
Its is whether it was possible, and it was possible. It happens.
He left no note, so how can he be 100%? Gary was on his own and was responsible for what happened. End of case.
Its not about whether or not it was likely, if he slipped into unconsciousness with the cable tight around his neck.
Its is whether it was possible, and it was possible. It happens.
He left no note, so how can he be 100%? Gary was on his own and was responsible for what happened. End of case.
angel
still much remains unaswered for me we may never get the full truth but something remains unsolved here and im not the on;ly one that thinks this
still much remains unaswered for me we may never get the full truth but something remains unsolved here and im not the on;ly one that thinks this
To be honest Daz once you snap out of this obsessive behaviour, you will realise that your imagination was playing tricks with you.
angel
i will always think this way probably long after this thing is history unless some other info comes to hand.....the word is unresolved mystery i would be lying to say otherwise....cover up...possibly.
Weather its right or wrong to still be discussing it another matter but still unsolved
i will always think this way probably long after this thing is history unless some other info comes to hand.....the word is unresolved mystery i would be lying to say otherwise....cover up...possibly.
Weather its right or wrong to still be discussing it another matter but still unsolved
Daz
Gary caused his own death. That should be it now, unless you cant switch off from it. Thats the obsessive problem. In your head you can not believe Gary Speed ended his life, but in reality he did. Your brain will not allow you closure because you have obsessed about it for so long now. You are not happy with the coroners verdict because it does not fit in with your own sensational suspicions of what happened. In your mind there must be more to it so you search and yearn for other possibilities. Its not your fault, its just the mindset of obsession.
Gary caused his own death. That should be it now, unless you cant switch off from it. Thats the obsessive problem. In your head you can not believe Gary Speed ended his life, but in reality he did. Your brain will not allow you closure because you have obsessed about it for so long now. You are not happy with the coroners verdict because it does not fit in with your own sensational suspicions of what happened. In your mind there must be more to it so you search and yearn for other possibilities. Its not your fault, its just the mindset of obsession.
might also be called wnting to know the truth. The inqust was a washout.
A quick stab in the dark then a sweep under the carpet. More to the whole thing.
A quick stab in the dark then a sweep under the carpet. More to the whole thing.
It was not a murder inquest. See that is strange that you feel it a washout. You have no evidence that it was a washout but somewhere you feel it was. You will chase your tail forever on this. Yet the truth is that Gary caused his own death. Yet your brain will not allow you to accept it. You are saying there has been a cover up. A man ended his own life. Think about it.
ever get the feeling that some people will just not take NO for an answer?
benny
I am getting that feeling. This one needs some serious work.
I am getting that feeling. This one needs some serious work.
This is what happens when you watch too much Coronation Street and the other Soaps.
Angel
I agree with most you say but i have personal experience of these inquest and i once gave evidence and the findings normally give more details and i have looked at the verdicts of other similar cases normally the verdit is more conclusive. We are only not getting the whole truth because thereis something to hide it is obvious
Take your point because its not a murder no need to re open the inquest.
I agree with most you say but i have personal experience of these inquest and i once gave evidence and the findings normally give more details and i have looked at the verdicts of other similar cases normally the verdit is more conclusive. We are only not getting the whole truth because thereis something to hide it is obvious
Take your point because its not a murder no need to re open the inquest.
might have been better having 2 endings.
1) Tragic accident, through depression and constant abuse from the wife.
2) Was caught having sex with a talking Donkey, who survived a Tram crash.
1) Tragic accident, through depression and constant abuse from the wife.
2) Was caught having sex with a talking Donkey, who survived a Tram crash.
I wont be posting on this subject unless anything further substantial developments because the whole thing is just going round circle and I strongly have my beliefs about the whole thing which wont change.
Maybe we may meet again on other topics.
Maybe we may meet again on other topics.
daz500
You are sad - and most people on this forum would agree with that. Your arrogance is outstanding, only surpassed by your total insensitivity to the family of the deceased. You're not 'interested' you're grotesquely obsessed with something you know - and will never know - nothing about. Back off -get a life - and have some bloody respect.
Btw I have never appeared on any blog - so you 're obviously confusing me with someone else.
You are sad - and most people on this forum would agree with that. Your arrogance is outstanding, only surpassed by your total insensitivity to the family of the deceased. You're not 'interested' you're grotesquely obsessed with something you know - and will never know - nothing about. Back off -get a life - and have some bloody respect.
Btw I have never appeared on any blog - so you 're obviously confusing me with someone else.
I think Daz has low self esteem. Addictions and obsessions are born out of low self esteem. Many conspiracy theorists also, so i am not going to chastise Daz. He has a condition and needs to realise that he is not thinking rationally. He will no doubt disagree because he is in denial but one day he will self diagnose himself and completely agree with what i am saying. It will take time but it will happen. Good luck Daz.
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